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LovelyAries86
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posted March 12, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Leo on the cusp of the 11th.

I have ZERO planets in the 11th.

I do have have Nessus (in Leo) and Ceres (in Virgo) sitting in the 11th though. I don't know all that much about asteroids and cusps yet.

What does all the above really represent?
What is this saying about my place in groups?

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posted March 12, 2014 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

*waits with glass of wine*

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posted March 12, 2014 10:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would look at the placement of your sun the house and the aspects.

You can look up info about 11th house ruler in the 7th.

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posted March 12, 2014 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If no one answers I'll try to remember when I get home on a computer.

I have it also but I also have sun and Saturn there. (not conjunct)

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posted March 12, 2014 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You would look at the placement of your sun the house and the aspects.

You can look up info about 11th house ruler in the 7th.


So it has nothing really to do with Leo? Just my 7th House?

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posted March 12, 2014 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
If no one answers I'll try to remember when I get home on a computer.

I have it also but I also have sun and Saturn there. (not conjunct)


Yes please share your experience of this placement!

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posted March 13, 2014 02:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay... I'm just going from memory. I looked it up once a while ago. I'm too lazy to now. LOL

Basically, if I remember right.

You like to be the center of your friends. You love all of them, love to be with them. You like to have their attention, make them laugh, and be there for them. You are probably generous towards your friends.
They may feel that you are their "secure" friend, the friend that can always cheer them up when they are down and the friend that will always be there when they need them.

You may hold your friends to high standards. They are fewer, but deeper friendships. Superficiality among your friends is not tolerated.
It's possible that you could offend them by trying to dictate what you think is best for them - even though it is done with the best intentions.

Hmmmmmm...
But that's just a generalization from my memory. Does any of it click with you?

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posted March 13, 2014 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Okay... I'm just going from memory. I looked it up once a while ago. I'm too lazy to now. LOL

Basically, if I remember right.

You like to be the center of your friends. You love all of them, love to be with them. You like to have their attention, make them laugh, and be there for them. You are probably generous towards your friends.
They may feel that you are their "secure" friend, the friend that can always cheer them up when they are down and the friend that will always be there when they need them.

You may hold your friends to high standards. They are fewer, but deeper friendships. Superficiality among your friends is not tolerated.
It's possible that you could offend them by trying to dictate what you think is best for them - even though it is done with the best intentions.

Hmmmmmm...
But that's just a generalization from my memory. Does any of it click with you?


Yes, this is fairly accurate!

I never try to dominate my friends or anything like that. But I do often find myself being that "best friend" to people. The one they confide in the most, the one they want to uplift them. I take pride in this role and I try to be the best friend I can be to people.

You do have to reciprocate though. It can't be about you 24/7. After awhile...I'll cut you loose if I feel you are taking me for granted. I don't play that!

And this whole time I thought it was just my Cancer Moon. But it's Leo running in to help!

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posted March 13, 2014 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the 5th house rules how we give special attention to someone or something, and how we express that attention, when we become passionate about it.

The 11th house rules how we receive attention, the type of experience we have when we become a 'hot topic' for some reason, and how we function within group dynamics. The 11th house has to our experience of ‘popularity’ within groups, or the lack of it, depending or our natal charts, transits occurring at the time, and the synastry we have with others.

Think of it this way… The 5th house is our performance on the stage of life, and the 11th house is the audience to our personal ‘show‘, and the feedback we receive from that audience. Are we popular? or even infamous? do we make an impact on others in general at all? Maybe only at certain times (transits to the 11th house). If someone polled our peers about us what would they say? The 11th house shows the type of feedback we’re likely to get.

On an individual to individual level, the 11th house symbolizes the type of attention we like to receive when people happen to fall in love with, or become fascinated with us, in both platonic and romantic ways (the 5th house shows our experience of falling in love with, or becoming fascinated with others). People who positively aspect our 11th house planets or ruler, naturally tend to makes us feel loved, liked, and appreciated (as if they think we‘re ‘cool‘). Positive synastry to our 11th house from others gives us that boost we feel when we know we’re liked and wanted, and feel welcome and accepted for the unique individual we are (positive synastry to the 5th house is more about feeling inspired to express ourselves towards someone else, and being able to do so with style, and impact).

With Leo on the 11th house you would like to experience enthusiastic, and demonstrative attention from others, especially love interests. They don’t mind if those who love and admire them are a little over-the-top with their affection, and expressions of adoration.

In group situations, a person with Leo on the 11th house cusp would feel the need to express themselves, and get their side of the story ’out there’ on an open forum. They may like to discuss topics relating to feeling inspired, or excited about something. Even if they are usually quiet, a Leo on the 11th house would enter a group situation with their ’game face’ on, as if they are ready to put on a show for others. They may naturally gravitate towards leading in some way, being in the spotlight, or even ‘showing off’ in group situations. They tend to emphasize the positive side of things in group situations, and want to be around people who are excited, positive, and enthusiastic themselves. For them, a good reason to be a part of a group is so you can have fun, and feel exhilarated about something. If they are rejected in a social situation, it may really hurt their pride and they make have a hard time being objective about it. Like a lion they may roar and kick up a big fuss about it.

For Leo on the 11th look at how your Sun is aspected for further clues to this. LovelyAries, since your Sun is in Aries, you may also see the 11th house type situations as an opportunity to express your individuality, and make a statement about who you are. Group forums are likely to be situations where you get all excited and push forward with your ideas. Your 11th house is quite a fiery place… Leo cusp ruled by Sun in Aries.

The 11th house is also the standpoint though which we watch others in the social environment around us, and make decisions about what we want to do based on that information. The 11th house will show our attitudes towards group involvement, what types of groups we tend to align ourselves with, and what issues in society we see as needing a ‘revision’ of some kind. The 11th house is associated with social reform and change.

For example, Gemini on the 11th might observe the way people around them communicate, and might develop quite a few critiques about the way communication in general between people can be improved, or revised.

Leo on the 11th might observe the way people around them express their passionate feelings, attitudes toward courtship and dating, creative outlets, and attitudes towards children. A person with Leo on the 11th might develop quite an interest in these areas of activity between humans, and develop a vision of how they think things in these area could be improved.

Back to the 5th house giving/11th house receiving thing... A good metaphor for this is to think of how we act when giving a present versus how we act when receiving one. Aquarius on the 5th may hand a present to you all casual like (perhaps that's how they deal with the anxiety of whether or not the gift will be liked), while Leo on the 11th gushes while on the receiving end of a gift(they love to be enthusiastically appreciated themselves, and so they try to show others the same attitude when receiving something special from them).

Here’s some key ideas to help understand the 11th house vs. the 5th house.

5th house/11th house =

Expression/ Reception

Giving attention/Receiving attention

Giving of love/Receiving love

The performer/ The audience

The spectacle/ The crowd

Meeting a celebrity/ Meeting a fan

The talent/ The patron

The elite/ The average person

The experience and drama of life/ The observation and study of life (Aquarius is said to rule astrology, and they are great people watchers)

Oh yeah, and a crappy 11th house is not the end of the would. Even if we aren’t popular in general, there we still be those can make us feel ‘popular’ in a one on one setting. That would be those that make positive synastry to our 11th house ruler and 11th house planets. These are the people who make us feel as if we’re awesome to have around, and who want a connection with us. They tend to boost our feelings of confidence, and make us feel more free to be our unique selves.

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posted March 14, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:

For Leo on the 11th look at how your Sun is aspected for further clues to this. LovelyAries, since your Sun is in Aries, you may also see the 11th house type situations as an opportunity to express your individuality, and make a statement about who you are. Group forums are likely to be situations where you get all excited and push forward with your ideas. Your 11th house is quite a fiery place… Leo cusp ruled by Sun in Aries.

Leo on the 11th might observe the way people around them express their passionate feelings, attitudes toward courtship and dating, creative outlets, and attitudes towards children. A person with Leo on the 11th might develop quite an interest in these areas of activity between humans, and develop a vision of how they think things in these area could be improved.


Hi Lotis! Thank you very much for all your feedback!

The only major aspect I have to my Sun is a trine to Uranus. I've been described as "spicy" and "intelligent" by people in my social circle. Just tonight, I hosted an event and everyone told me how great of an Organizer they felt I was.

The event I hosted was actually about dating, love & relationships. So what you said above is sooooo ironic! I have very strong views on these subjects. But at the same time, I very much love to hear the viewpoints of other people. Let's bounce ideas off of each other! PASSION is like breathing for me - I'd die without it in my life! So I seek to connect with people who are this same way.

Intellect, individuality, passion, adventure...all are very important to me.

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posted March 14, 2014 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Back to the 5th house giving/11th house receiving thing... A good metaphor for this is to think of how we act when giving a present versus how we act when receiving one.

Oh yeah, and a crappy 11th house is not the end of the would. Even if we aren’t popular in general, there we still be those can make us feel ‘popular’ in a one on one setting.


So I have Leo on the 11th. This would mean that I'm generally popular in groups? That when people give to ME...it's quite grand?

As you mentioned, Aqua is on my 5th. I do also have Jupiter in the 5th. What is your take on MY giving with the blend of those two?

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posted March 14, 2014 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
So I have Leo on the 11th. This would mean that I'm generally popular in groups? That when people give to ME...it's quite grand?

As you mentioned, Aqua is on my 5th. I do also have Jupiter in the 5th. What is your take on MY giving with the blend of those two?


Hi LovelyAries,

I think Leo on the 11th can make a person a leader and organizer in groups, and make them stand out to their peers. whether or not they are popular and well liked by the 'crowd' in general will depend on how the Sun is aspected.

Negative aspects to the Sun could mean the Leo on the 11th is viewed as too bossy, and too much of a show-off by others.

Positive aspects to the Sun could mean that that Leo on the 11th is viewed as radiant and fun, as well as a good organizer and motivator within groups.

LovelyAries,

Since you have a Uranus trine to your Sun you are more then likely well-liked. So yeah, in your case I'd say your natal chart gives you a good deal of natural popularity.

The only times things may be challenging would be during stressful transits to your Sun. Overall though, things will be good.

Also, Jupiter in the 5th house will warm up your giving/loving style quite a bit. Jupiter is a joyful, laughing planet, and an idealistic planet. You regard those you love most with a friendly, open-minded attitude, and would give with a positive attitude and a smile. The response you like as a result of what you put out into the would is shown by the 11th house. That's the Leo ruled by Sun in Aries vibe. You'd appreciate open declarations of affection with nothing held back, and a direct, honest attitude. The Aries part would indicate that you like it when people can 'keep it real' with you, even if some of their feedback isn't always wonderful (it just has to be wonderful MOST of the time).

Interesting about you having strong views regarding Leo-related issues. Hosting a dating/love advice event is soooo Leo on the 11th that it's not even funny!

Myself, I have Libra on the 11th house, with Pluto and Uranus in the 11th house, and have strong views about topics such as marriage and relationships. Plus relationship astrology (Uranus) is my favorite topic. I also love to hear about other people's 'relationship stories', their experiences.

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posted March 14, 2014 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Since you have a Uranus trine to your Sun you are more then likely well-liked.

You regard those you love most with a friendly, open-minded attitude, and would give with a positive attitude and a smile.

You'd appreciate open declarations of affection with nothing held back, and a direct, honest attitude.

The Aries part would indicate that you like it when people can 'keep it real' with you, even if some of their feedback isn't always wonderful (it just has to be wonderful MOST of the time).


I'm grateful for my Sun/Uranus aspect. I enjoy the 'original spirit' that it gives me.

I'm definitely the KEEP-IT-REAL type of person. Not the keep-it-rude sort lol but absolutely be honest with me. I loathe phonies & cowards more than ANYTHING!

If you love me, say it. If you respect me, let me know. If you want me, show it. Simple! It doesn't need to be over-the-top at all, just genuine & sincere.

"Give with a positive attitude and a smile" was SPOT ON for me. I rarely give out of obligation! I give from the heart! I enjoy uplifting people, entertaining them, making them smile...making them feel protected & safe. For surrre.

Damn Lotis! Thanks for explaining all this to me.

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posted March 14, 2014 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Interesting about you having strong views regarding Leo-related issues. Hosting a dating/love advice event is soooo Leo on the 11th that it's not even funny!

Myself, I have Libra on the 11th house, with Pluto and Uranus in the 11th house, and have strong views about topics such as marriage and relationships. Plus relationship astrology (Uranus) is my favorite topic. I also love to hear about other people's 'relationship stories', their experiences.


I do enjoy discussing the subject - all parts of it.

Sounds like you'd be a fabulous addition to my Dating Seminars!

I still have much to learn about interpreting synastry though, so maybe that's something else you could teach me about one day soon?

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posted December 03, 2015 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 11th House has been back on my radar lately. So I had to revisit this thread! Over the last few months...I've really begun to fully understand what it means to have over my 11th House and how this can play out.

For example, I recently deleted 150 people off of my Facebook Page. And more to go! I'm very much *done* associating with people who don't bring as much to the table as I do. Why involve you in my personal life if you don't deserve it??

Finished with people who don't look out for me the way that I look out for them.

Over having friends that don't have any real INFLUENCE at all. And certainly over people who TALK a good game, but whom surely cannot WALK it.

Many people want to bask in and enjoy *my sunshine* but rarely do these same silly rabbits everrrrr think to shine their own light BACK ONTO ME. I don't respect emotional leeches who never THINK to give anything in return. Reciprocate! The society we're living in today really p*sses me off.

I guess I am very Leo-like when it comes to friends?? I don't hold grudges. But I'll drop you quickly if I don't see a substantial benefit in knowing you. Or if I feel neglected. I protect, uplift, and help my friends in *any* way that I can - without them EVER having to ask me to. If you aren't capable of doing the exact same thing for me....we cannot and will not be friends. In business matters, emotional matters, social matters, etc - in all partnerships!

That's where I am at this point in my life. GO HARD OR GO HOME.

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posted December 03, 2015 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read this online. I do feel that this is accurate about Leo-11H placements:

"Many of your closer friends will seek you out for advice on matters of personal importance. As the years pass, you are apt to come into greater contact with people in important positions, or positions of influence in the worlds of society and business. Your fondest hopes and wishes could reach fulfillment through those you have known down through the years."

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