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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

I'm a virgo woman. I've been living with an aries man for about a year now. We moved in together early on because our relationship turned long distance and it seemed like the thing to do. The thing is, I'm not feeling the love. I don't know if this is because he doesn't feel anything profound for me, or because I am not a very romantic person by nature and unintentionally made it awkward to be overly romantic early on in our relationship. My feelings for this guy weren't initial sparks, but grew slowly... Now I'm ready for some affection, an I've told him so. Is this Aries pride because I was a little put off by it at first, or is the passion not there for him? I feel confused. I also feel reserved because I am unsure of his feelings... It's a vicious cycle. He takes me to look at engagement rings and asks which ones I like, but when I ask if he's trying to tell me something he just blows it off. It's true that I don't know if I'm ready for marriage because his impulsive personality is a concern for me, but it's definitely a possibility if we could just break the ice. Is this normal? Does he not know if he is that into me, as they say? I've never really known another aries. He buys me things and apparently says great things to everyone about me... Just not to my face. I try to be more romantic but it doesn't really help. I'm feeling clueless.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 16, 2014 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rosa,
From one Virgo sun to another - The best thing you can do, be confident and totally sure about what you want. Aries will feel better about the future of your relationship this way.
Wishy washiness and not knowing what you want only drives them crazy. You must be warm and enthusiastic if you want this to work.
One thing they cannot stand is the constant hemming and hawing. They hate it. You have to be sure of your feelings for them and express them without trepidation or hesitation. An exuberant I LOVE YOU!!! They like warmth, passion and like all fire signs, happiness and cheerfulness. Fire people need that steady flow of good fellowship with others or they get in a bad mood, from my experience and they can become withdrawn and introverted like they see you being. A fire sun will grow quiet and moody if someone near them is.
Do you have anything in fire signs in your chart?

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posted March 16, 2014 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your moon signs?

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply. So, you're saying I should just start being romantic anyway and act as though the future is clear in my mind? I do know that I want to stay in the relationship, just need some more time to build trust before marriage comes into the picture. I guess I just haven't wanted to make myself overly vulnerable since I'm not completely sure how he feels about me. What would make an aries feel secure? I'm so bad at stuff like this.

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posted March 16, 2014 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RosaDelValle:
Thanks for the reply. So, you're saying I should just start being romantic anyway and act as though the future is clear in my mind? I do know that I want to stay in the relationship, just need some more time to build trust before marriage comes into the picture. I guess I just haven't wanted to make myself overly vulnerable since I'm not completely sure how he feels about me. What would make an aries feel secure? I'm so bad at stuff like this.

If you want it to work, yes, you should be confident. Aries has this energy that you can feel. Haven't you ever noticed? I feel it with Aries celebrities. It's this happy energy. I cannot describe it! Just warm and fuzzy! This is how Aries likes for you to perceive them.
I am not really sure how you view your partner but it's normal to feel warmth in the presence of an Aries since the sun is exalted. This is why they are often so successful.
If you are not reacting to them in this way, it's just unnatural feeling to them. Get what I am saying? It probably makes him feel uncomfortable.

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon is in Leo... And almost much every planet in my chart w/ aqua rising. I'm not sure what his rising is

He has Cappy moon and mercury in Pisces. Not sure about the rising sign. He has bubbly people as friends but has never had a serious girlfriend that was overly cheerful. I think I'm a happy person, but in more of a sarcastic joking sort of way rather than peppy and cheerful. He isn't like thy either... More of a laid back and dry sense of humor.

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posted March 16, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your moons are in agreement to each other's suns so that's good. You have a fire moon and he has one in an earth sign.
Even though he has a Capricorn moon, he might like warmth and enthusiasm from time to time, and confidence, not just the coolness of Capricorn.
He might like for you to respond enthusiastically especially about matters of the heart. If he isn't sure you are serious he won't be, either.
So be peppy and cheerful. He might be surprised and wonder why, haha, so be sure to not startle him too much.

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I do get what you're saying. He's really a go getter sort of person, and he is successful. His whole family and most of his friends think he can do no wrong... As well as he, himself, haha. I guess I'm just not as susceptible to that feeling because I'm a Virgo and when he gets an arrogant streak I roll my eyes. It doesn't really bother me or anything, because that's just his personality and somehow he isn't obnoxious about it, but maybe he would like me to be a bit more adoring lol.

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posted March 16, 2014 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RosaDelValle:
Yeah, I do get what you're saying. He's really a go getter sort of person, and he is successful. His whole family and most of his friends think he can do no wrong... As well as he, himself, haha. I guess I'm just not as susceptible to that feeling because I'm a Virgo and when he gets an arrogant streak I roll my eyes. It doesn't really bother me or anything, because that's just his personality and somehow he isn't obnoxious about it, but maybe he would like me to be a bit more adoring lol.

It's more about expressing good feelings and being extroverted than just complimenting all the time. You don't have to constantly compliment but do show some excitement. I have seen one Virgo sun who has virtually no expression period. I have fire Venus and Mars so I can be very enthusiastic. I can also be quiet like a mutable earth sign, too, just depends. I have so much going on in my chart, it seems like I have more than one personality at times, lol. It's more about feeling though. Sometimes I just feel like being enthusiastic and the excitement courses through me. Do you ever have those moments, Rosa? I happen to adore Leo moons btw. My fave moon sign while Aries is my fave place for the sun!

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Yeah, I need the fire in my chart to balance out my virgo sun, or else I'd be an old cat lady/librarian spinster wagging my cane at the whipper snappers on my lawn. I could totally see that haha. I have Leo moon, merc, Venus, and Jupiter too. Mars in Libra.
Yeah, I get like that sometimes, where I just want to go out and dance and drink and laugh, or paint something, or run around the block a few times. Lately I've been calling him an old man because he hasn't wanted to go out and do anything... Busy life though, so I can't blame him. Maybe we need a vacation to get things on the right track. I can try out my new flirty confidence and start to set things straight.

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posted March 16, 2014 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RosaDelValle:
Thanks! Yeah, I need the fire in my chart to balance out my virgo sun, or else I'd be an old cat lady/librarian spinster wagging my cane at the whipper snappers on my lawn. I could totally see that haha. I have Leo moon, merc, Venus, and Jupiter too. Mars in Libra.
Yeah, I get like that sometimes, where I just want to go out and dance and drink and laugh, or paint something, or run around the block a few times. Lately I've been calling him an old man because he hasn't wanted to go out and do anything... Busy life though, so I can't blame him. Maybe we need a vacation to get things on the right track. I can try out my new flirty confidence and start to set things straight.

All that Leo helps a lot!!!

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, I can throw on the enthusiasm thing pretty easily. I do it at my job. It's just not my first instinct. I don't think he would want me like that ALL of the time, anyway, but I do see where I could use some improvement. Thanks for the comments.

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posted March 16, 2014 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RosaDelValle:
Oh yeah, I can throw on the enthusiasm thing pretty easily. I do it at my job. It's just not my first instinct. I don't think he would want me like that ALL of the time, anyway, but I do see where I could use some improvement. Thanks for the comments.

YW, Rosa. I am glad you liked reading them

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posted March 16, 2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the worst thing a virgo girl can do is to begin to act reserved. I think most virgo people do this after a while. They begin to calm a bit down and not be so nervous, but still they can feel insecure and act cold as a defense mechanism. But that was probably not how he falled into love with you in the first place...he liked you when you were not reserved and just had fun. So I think you should concentrate on breaking down the wall now, before it is too late. Its also very important not to become critical with him, if he does something wrong - let it go. Don't start to nag at him or be critical. Instead you should concentrate on the positive stuff he does and appreciate that. And don't feel insecure that he will reject you, cause he won't.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 16, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hi Rosa,
From one Virgo sun to another - The best thing you can do, be confident and totally sure about what you want. Aries will feel better about the future of your relationship this way.
Wishy washiness and not knowing what you want only drives them crazy. You must be warm and enthusiastic if you want this to work.
One thing they cannot stand is the constant hemming and hawing. They hate it. You have to be sure of your feelings for them and express them without trepidation or hesitation. An exuberant [b]I LOVE YOU
!!! They like warmth, passion and like all fire signs, happiness and cheerfulness. Fire people need that steady flow of good fellowship with others or they get in a bad mood, from my experience and they can become withdrawn and introverted like they see you being. A fire sun will grow quiet and moody if someone near them is.
Do you have anything in fire signs in your chart? [/B]


Wow! This is what I am like. And I am Sun in Sagittarius with Aries Asc.

#RosaDelValle

It is very difficult to give advise on this- given that you haven't given planetary placements.

You just described a classic relationships between a Virgo and an Aries. From the Sun sign position, the energies of the two people concerned are differing and not always complementary i.e;

Where Virgo is careful and prudent in matters of the heart, Aries is boisterous and "gung-ho".

Where Virgo prefers detailed answers, consistency and intellectual sophistication, Aries paints with a broad brush, brazenly speaks their mind and can be too self-assured.

Since Aries is in your 8th house, the house of fear, your partner may evoke many of your hidden fears.

Since you are on their 6th house, the house of service, you will assist, critique and monitor your partner a lot. This is the dynamic of the relationship -based on the Sun sign position.

His Moon in Capricorn and yours in Leo is also a quincunx relationship.I am not sure whether there is an aspect between the two moon signs but these two signs tend to be quite serious and sober with each other.

His Capricorn Moon is telling as I don't think that a person with a Moon in Capricorn can ever be "bubbly". Not even with the Sun sign in fire.

post your individual charts

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 16, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 16, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies. Yes, we are complimentary in ways and butt heads in other ways. I do use being reserved as a defense mechanism... I guess I subconsciously think a lot about looking independent, and I don't want to seem clingy if I'm not 100% sure about the other person's feelings. Bad habit. I do completely see that he does evoke some fears in me and I am cautious because of this. I also DO help him a lot with things, do what he asks, and monitor his behavior when it gets TOO irresponsible, which it occasionally has in the past. I've been with people who were more astrologically compatible and I was bored out of my mind... he is the best quality partner I have had, and it's the most normal relationship, but I feel that there could be more to it in the emotional department if we could understand each other better.

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posted March 17, 2014 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2014 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

As I guessed, you have a Moon(yours) inconjunct Moon(his)aspect. This can be an uncomfortable position and there could be a lack of emotional connection.

Your Mercury is also inconjunct his Moon: He responds defensively to what you express or communicate.

Leo and Cap signs are quite serious in nature. So both being so close in proximity suggests that there could be a difficulty in letting the guard "down".

Either one or both of you don't want the other to learn of your emotional weaknesses and build a high wall or it could be very difficult relating to each other about personal weakness since neither of you are privy to share any with each other.

Saturn-the sign that restricts or limits is also involved. And in this instance, there is a cross aspect in both charts.

Your Saturn is in Aquarius and it squares his Venus EXACT.

Talk about no love? This is the aspect that even when there is deep affection, there is some awkwardness in expressing. It may be latent, downplayed or not expressed at all.

Your Saturn in Aquarius suggests a need to connect intellectually that may be limited or halted.

You may be frustrated in the inability to be mentally stimulated by those around you-they may be too "tame" and too "group think" to excite you.

This is further compounded by your Chiron in Leo opposing the Saturn position.

This suggests that creativity, praise for innovation and encouraged individuality are sore points with you that may be under-developed or were discouraged?

Perhaps you were told to "fit in" and "be like the other children" a lot when you were growing up and this suppressed your personality quirks from being expressed?

With his Venus in Taurus squaring both Chiron and Saturn,he may be too conservative or just not an "out of the box" thinker- as far as you are concerned.

His Venus in Taurus prefers to stay rooted and grounded in planet earth. The only things that evoke much excitement in him are base pleasures; a warm bath, good sex, wholesome conversation and consistent income. He is very simplistic and traditional in his tastes.

Your Saturn also forms a conjunction to his Moon in Capricorn. This denotes that you expect him to be rational, controlled and dignified when expressing emotions. If not, you come down on him hard.

Saturn conjunct Moon means that your Saturn in Aquarius will treat his Moon in Capricorn like an adult. There are certain things that you expect from him, either expressed or implied, and childish behavior is not one of them.

In fact, with this conjunction , you may be in "agreement" with his emotional temperament and make it a point that he "keeps it up".

His Saturn in Sagittarius squares your Sun in Virgo.

This aspect has the effect of "stopping before trying".

His Saturn in Sagittarius will instinctively "work" on you; perhaps to broaden your horizon, have you see a broader concept and even explore all sorts of philosophies and concepts.

But your Sun in Virgo resists this by asking "how will this assist me in my every day life?". So while it is all good and well to explore concepts and philosophies, Virgo doesn't see the point if they don't add value to daily life.

He thinks "knowing" about something is value enough whilst you believe "applying" that something denotes its relevant value.

This is why I said this is the "stopping before trying" aspect as he can be easily discouraged by you as you can be completely critical of him.

This is further re-enforced by his Chiron in Gemini opposing his Saturn in Sagittarius. He may very well have an inferiority complex with regards to how intelligent he is and how "worthwhile" what he thinks and can contribute in a conversation can be.

You may, inadvertently, highlight this "faultiness in reasoning" by critiquing him (Sun in Virgo squares both Saturn and Chiron in Gemini)

Perhaps the most challenging position is his Pluto in Scorpio which aspects your Saturn in Aquarius by square. The "why are you trying to change my world?" aspect.

This is the aspect that may re-enforce those fears that I mentioned. But the flavour here is differing.

Scorpio Pluto means to transform inside out -from a strongly emotional angle. Whilst Saturn in Aquarius prefers the more intellectual plane. Can you already see the nature of the resistance?

Scorpio Pluto will want to connect from a deeper perspective and get rid of any superficial or mind-focused barriers in order to get to the emotional place. To the place where things are raw.

You may be okay to entertain Scorpio by "talking" about emotions and analyzing them, but Scorpio wants to go further; they want to be able to "become" them instead of intellectualizing them from a detached perspective.

This can be extremely uncomfortable to you and ,not to mention,unnerving because you do not know and are not familiar with that state of being.

But with this square, this is inevitable as the relationship is unlikely to stay in the "find and dandy" course for long.

You both have Chiron-Saturn oppositions in each of your charts which, to me, suggests that there is some pain and feeling of inadequacy with regards to the energies of those signs involved for you both.

Either you can re-enforce these things to each other and make the relationship more painful or you can start to heal them.

You both know what it feels like to "lack" and this may be a profound connection you have as it may encourage you both to start working on yourselves and really heal much of the hurt that is suggested by the Chiron-Saturn opposition.

He will definitely work on your issues with the Pluto in Scorpio squaring your Saturn(because your Saturn touches your Chiron by opposition).

And you will bring his issues to the surface too with his Saturn(which also touches his Chiron by opposition) squaring your Sun in Virgo.

Good Luck!

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RosaDelValle
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posted March 17, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RosaDelValle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you! That was very spot on. It's good to see those issues from a more objective perspective. It looks sort of doomed though, with all of those squares and oppositions and bad aspects... haha... I guess this relationship will be quite a project. I'll definitely read over it more closely tonight, I'm on a break for lunch now. Thanks again!

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posted March 18, 2014 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be discouraged, there is hope.

You have Sun sextile Pluto in Scorpio and this is the signature of your chart. Your nature is very "Scorpio" as you like to dig and find the answers and don't sidestep emotional challenges. This is exciting.

He has Sun squaring Neptune in Capricorn and this gives his natal chart a "Pisces" feel. He does everything he can to sidestep any confrontations and is likely to work with you than against you.

He tends to have a rosy view of things whilst yours is more raw.This relationship can work-as long as you can use each others basic temperaments to build it.

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