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ScarlettO'Hara
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posted March 20, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarlettO'Hara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am confused after doing both the readings... like Mercury in 9 house is neutral(Vedic) but Mercury in 10 house is good placement(Western)... So how to solve this problem??? Is it ok or good???

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Lotis White
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posted March 20, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both work in my opinion.

Western is very good with psychological stuff.

Vedic is very good with prediction, events.

I once listened to a pod-cast by one astrology who was into both sidereal and tropical astrology. He said that western astrology tends to show our subjective, personal experiences in living our lives, because tropical is based on Earth's cycle of the seasons as our planet moves around the Sun. He said we feel our tropical charts up close and personal as we live within this cycle. He further said that because sidereal astrology is based on the more distant constellations, and as such it gives a more distant, objective description of our lives and fate. It's like looking at our live with a birds-eye view and seeing an entire landscape, rather then focusing on all the personal 'feelings' we have about people and situations when we're in the thick of things.

That was this astrologer's take anyway. I think it fits well.

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posted March 20, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read my vedic chart and it made no sense for me. Western all the way imo.

Edit: never have tried to do predictive astrology and she knows a heck of a lot more than I do!

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posted March 20, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't relate with my vedic natal chart, so I'd say western for me.

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posted March 20, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're both great-- and I've found they're very complementary! Especially ehen it comes to predictions/timing events.

For natal chart analysis I prefer western, though

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posted March 20, 2014 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greatquincunx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You use the system that best fits you. I switched to vedic/sidereal . I like what I'm finding..

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arcturiann
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posted March 20, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed that if I look at the specific nakshatra placements for my planets, that it makes more sense than if I just look at the sign itself.

I've been studying it for a while because I'm curious and don't think im educated enough to say one is better than the other yet, studying vedic astrology gets so frustrating because of all the hindu words you need to learn

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posted March 20, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both systems offer inquisitive interpretations about myself and who I am and really reflect me.

However I agree, vedic is better for prediction whereas western is more psychologically suited, really is able to show people.

Both are very good IMO

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posted March 20, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally resonate better with my Vedic Chart, overall. (Lahiri/Sidereal)

I also resonate with both the Whole Sign/House system along with the Placidus House Cusps in my Vedic Chart.

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posted March 20, 2014 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like both, and both works depending on what you are using it for. Western is really good for personality and inner workings, plus they use the outer planets which opens more doors as well as Chiron and Ceres and some researched asteroids are good too.

I like Vedic because they concentrate on the Moon as a driving force and also the Nodes. good for health too.

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posted March 20, 2014 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
They're both great-- and I've found they're very complementary! Especially ehen it comes to predictions/timing events.

For natal chart analysis I prefer western, though


Yes, one of the points that the astrologer made in the pod-cast I listened to was that most people identify with their western chart most, and 'feel' it most psychologically, because this is our personal experience of life day to day.

Whereas the sidereal chart is meant to show what will actually become of our lives in objective reality over time. It's like the type of destiny you have.

This was the jist of what he was saying anyway. I do wish sometimes that I had a more complete answer to what the difference is between the sidereal and tropical charts. The astrologer in this pod-cast had the best answer I've heard yet, and I think he is more or less correct.

My tropical Sun sign is Capricorn and I certainly feel like one, and act like one too.

My sidereal Sun is Sagittarius, and it's true that I've had a life path that has involved a lot of movement and travel.

And I love to study the nakshatras. It's an interesting topic.

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posted March 20, 2014 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love nakshatras too
it's the same regardless of which system you choose because they are the fixed stars.

For example Rohini = Aldebaran and I have my stellium in the jurisdiction of Rohini.

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posted March 21, 2014 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both have their merits.

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rajji
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posted March 21, 2014 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See what events/happenings relates most to your life.
For me its vedic-becoz western is 24degrees backward.That counts to be almost a whole zodiac sign.
And every year the gap is increasing by one degree supposedly.

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posted March 21, 2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I don't like about vedic astrology is how absolutely negative some of the interpretations on a lot of these websites are... its like, no hope, just kill yourself type **** lol. I think this might have come from like a con artist trick to sell "remedies" in the form of gemstones to naive people whom the astrologer tells all this bad sh*t to.

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posted March 22, 2014 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, vedic is a bit more cruel, it's raw information, no sugar-coated aspects, they tell it like it is going "you will never get married" "no, you won't have kids", but I think is accurate. And the terms confuse me a lot.

I prefer Western, probably when I can finally be a pro in western astrology, I'll learn vedic, but that's just a thought.

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ScarlettO'Hara
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posted March 22, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarlettO'Hara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for answering!!! Well I am still confused so I'll consider both of them! I noticed that at times Western is accurate and at times Vedic!

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posted March 23, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer Vedic.

To determine which is for you keep the following in mind. Vedic astrology is very practical and external in nature whereas Western astrology is more internal and psychological in nature.
To show you what I mean I will attach here both a vedic and western interpretation of the same exact planetary placement in a particular person's chart.

Western:
Your feelings influence your decisions so much that it may be impossible to be objective, unless you make a great effort to be. Yet you have a good understanding of what is right for you and what isn't, and as you grow up you will learn the difference between judging something on emotional whim and judging by real intuition.
On the other hand, you are good at talking about your feelings.
Your habits have a very strong effect on how you think and act. Be careful of prejudices and beliefs that others have taught you.

Vedic:
This is not a good position for Moon. You will get into bad company quite easily but without any conscious inclination. Your friends would be very selfish. They will be poor and unworthy and will be quarrelsome too. You will maintain a poor health through out. Dyspepsia, piles, chest congestion and general weakness including insomnia would trouble you. You will need to take special care against consumptive diseases. You are likely to be separated from your parents due to mismatch of opinions.

Do you see the difference in approach? In the western style it's all internal and psychological which means the reading can often be applied to almost anyone. Western is saying: as you grow older you'll become more objective with your emotions. (This happens to EVERYONE as they get older.) It says the native needs to be more objective- a great DEAL of people in the world need to be more objective. Vedic on the other hand is saying- You will have no relationship with your parents due to argument with them, you will have poor health throughout life and your friends will be unworthy. - that absolutely CANNOT apply to most people. These things can only apply to very few people as most people do have some worthy friendships and most people do have a relationship with their parents and most people do not suffer bad health throughout their life.

In case you're wondering- The person I used as an example for this experiment indeed hasn't spoken to their parents in over a decade; this person was in and out of the hospital growing up from reacurrance of Cancer and most of the friends they've had have terribly betrayed this person and did not appreciate the native's friendship. So do you realize how f'ng AMAZING vedic astrology is? How frighteningly precise it can be? It's not that Western is wrong in it's interpretation, it's just that it's approach is internal and therefore it can apply to too many people to be useful sometimes. It can be hard to SEE whether a person "knows what's right for them" as the western reading above says. Vedic astrology is almost completely external so it's not hard to see if it's correct. You either have a relationship with your parents or you don't... You can easily see that. You either have friends or you don't. You can easily see that. You either have health issues or you don't. However Vedic astrology will usually not bother to tell you WHY these things are like that for you, because according to Vedic only God knows why. While western astrology does at least attempt to tell you why your results are. So both have their strengths and weaknesses and it really depends on your preference.

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posted March 23, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
One thing I don't like about vedic astrology is how absolutely negative some of the interpretations on a lot of these websites are... its like, no hope, just kill yourself type **** lol. I think this might have come from like a con artist trick to sell "remedies" in the form of gemstones to naive people whom the astrologer tells all this bad sh*t to.

lol. You are absolutely correct. This is why Vedic is not for everyone. If you can't handle being told that your first child is likely to get sick and die then this system is definitely not for you. I prefer this style because I'd rather know what the real deal is so I can prepare. For example I know that my Sun/Moon period which will last 6 months is going to be hell, but since I know when it's coming I can prepare for it by saving money so that I'm prepared for any sudden and tragic expenses that come up during that period (which they likely will) and making sure everything at work is in order before that period hits.

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