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livictori
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posted March 23, 2014 07:26 PM
  
I've been called a siren for years and I'm starting to understand what men mean when I've been called this. Although my sun and rising sign are both feminine and soft, my Venus and moon sign are way more evident in my interaction with men.
While talking to my therapist, I realize I've emasculated all of the men I've dated and they don't support me because they don't know how. When they do try, I don't recognize it. Are there natal aspects in my chart that can show this? I think this is what my libra natal node in the first house is but I value some input ------------------
♓️Pisces Sun, ♌️Leo Moon, ♎️Libra Rising. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted March 23, 2014 07:42 PM
Libra is masculine. I can't imagine anyone with libra rising emasculating a man. Libras are submissive unless not being treated well. IP: Logged |
livictori
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posted March 23, 2014 08:01 PM
It's my rising and north node but I think it's more the way I carry myself rather than how I treat them. Example: I appear very strong and independent so they don't offer to help but I'm really fragile and insecure. It never dawns on them I lack confidence so I just cut them offIP: Logged |
Jo B
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posted March 23, 2014 09:18 PM
I think it's your Pisces sun (what you're really about, sensitive and possibly changeable in mood) conflicting with your Libra asc (how you appear, which is probably independent and balanced). Also your Leo moon might add to you appearing emotionally strong and fixed, as it were. I have a similar thing, although I'm Virgo sun, Libra Asc and Aqua moon (also Leo venus/mars), and have exactly the same issue. I wouldn't call it a problem, it's just how it is and you need to find a guy who looks beyond the surface strength to recognize what lies at your core. They are out there. IP: Logged |
livictori
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posted March 23, 2014 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
I think it's your Pisces sun (what you're really about, sensitive and possibly changeable in mood) conflicting with your Libra asc (how you appear, which is probably independent and balanced). Also your Leo moon might add to you appearing emotionally strong and fixed, as it were. I have a similar thing, although I'm Virgo sun, Libra Asc and Aqua moon (also Leo venus/mars), and have exactly the same issue. I wouldn't call it a problem, it's just how it is and you need to find a guy who looks beyond the surface strength to recognize what lies at your core. They are out there.
How does it work for you. It bothers me because I see how its been preventing me from having an interdependent relationship
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Jo B
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posted March 23, 2014 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by livictori:
How does it work for you. It bothers me because I see how its been preventing me from having an interdependent relationship
Well I'm not currently in a relationship but in the past I just seemed to have the best and most enduring romantic relationships with guys who I wasn't initially attracted to or we just didn't immediately "click". It was only spending more time with each other and finding out what was underneath that the chemistry developed. On the other hand, interactions with people with whom I had a strong connection initially (physical, sexual) didn't really last the course. I think it's best to remain true to yourself though, the right person will encourage you to show your vulnerable side and make you feel safe doing that. Some of us are just more complex and need unravelling.  IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted March 23, 2014 10:25 PM
Why do they need to support you?You ought to work on that.. and be more self sufficient emotionally. IP: Logged |
livictori
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posted March 23, 2014 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Why do they need to support you?You ought to work on that.. and be more self sufficient emotionally.
I've spent my entire 37 years unsupported and unloved with the exception of my father who passed in 2006. I'm also an only parent to 2 girls, so I'm pretty self suffcient
I think you are supposed to pick someone who can love and support you which is not what i was looking for most of my life. I am fiercely independent in every aspect and I see how that has not made room for most men to know where to fit in. I'm not looking to be a damsel in distress but I recognize that some men have tried but I did not appreciate or understand their efforts.
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Jo B
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posted March 23, 2014 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Why do they need to support you?You ought to work on that.. and be more self sufficient emotionally.
Every person needs support now and again (talking emotionally, spiritually), and we are all capable of giving and receiving, it's not a one-way street. The issue here is when someone is giving the IMPRESSION they are extremely capable, independent and self-sufficient (which is the case with livictori, and also myself) because that's the way we know how to survive or succeed on a surface level. Underneath can be quite different though. IP: Logged |
livictori
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posted March 23, 2014 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Every person needs support now and again (talking emotionally, spiritually), and we are all capable of giving and receiving, it's not a one-way street.The issue here is when someone is giving the IMPRESSION they are extremely capable, independent and self-sufficient (which is the case with livictori, and also myself) because that's the way we know how to survive or succeed on a surface level. Underneath can be quite different though.
DEAD ON!!!
After the dust settled in one of my relationships my ex admitted to feeling tricked. he said he thought I was going to be easy but I needed a champion not a man.
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AriesKat
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posted March 24, 2014 04:04 PM
I so loved the way you worded this. I feel like I can relate. IP: Logged |
dadoo
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posted March 24, 2014 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Every person needs support now and again (talking emotionally, spiritually), and we are all capable of giving and receiving, it's not a one-way street.The issue here is when someone is giving the IMPRESSION they are extremely capable, independent and self-sufficient (which is the case with livictori, and also myself) because that's the way we know how to survive or succeed on a surface level. Underneath can be quite different though.
I can totally relate, but I wouldn't limit this to romantic interactions.
Just a few days ago, a very good (girl) friend told me:
"Yes, but in your case it's different, it's not like there's something in this world that can put you down".
This is SO not true. I guess. Or is it?
Anyway, honestly (just talking about myself here), I think I have a responsibility in it. I'm supremely good at hiding my weak points (Leo Moon sextile Pluto), including to myself sometimes. IP: Logged |
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