posted March 28, 2014 05:00 PM            

As for me - yes.
I'm patient, I will often do it behind the scenes, and it's usually not an eye for an eye. Its two eyes for an eye and/or I will maintain the vengeance for an extended period - up to forever.
It's not an admirable trait. I know. But I'm willing to admit my faults - everyone has them.
Granted, it's not common at all. It takes something very very serious that TRULY angers me and typically not a close loved one. I'm more likely to forgive though not forget.

Leo sun conjunct Regulus (a star known for revenge)
Gemini moon
Virgo Mars in 12th
Pluto conjunct asc

There could be more or maybe some of those don't matter. That's why I ask but personally I see my sun and Pluto as the top contributors

posted March 28, 2014 05:11 PM            

Mars - obviously combative
in the 12th - subtle, in a subterfuge way
and with Virgo it would probably make you more methodical in the way you do it.

I like to take revenge when REALLY slighted, I'm not really one to walk away from situations if I feel I've been hard done by. But I'm swift and explosive (and often creative!) in the way I do it (Mars conjunct Venus in Leo). I can make a big scene. Then I forget and move on. There's no point in harbouring prolonged grudges, it's not good for one's health!

posted March 28, 2014 05:23 PM            

I do this too sometimes. It's not a conscious thing. I care a lot and I hurt deeply when I'm let down so sometimes the claws come out.

And I feel like I've been on a mission this week too. Maybe it was revenge but I just felt like I've had enough bs to last a life time.

Not sure what it could be in my chart. But I do have vertex conjunct Regulus. This wouldn't play out as a personality trait though?

posted March 28, 2014 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Some are clearly obvious.
I'm just curious as it has been something with me just this week.

As for me - yes.
I'm patient, I will often do it behind the scenes, and it's usually not an eye for an eye. Its two eyes for an eye and/or I will maintain the vengeance for an extended period - up to forever.
It's not an admirable trait. I know. But I'm willing to admit my faults - everyone has them.
Granted, it's not common at all. It takes something very very serious that TRULY angers me and typically not a close loved one. I'm more likely to forgive though not forget.

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All of this used to be me until I was 19. Life was an ugly battle and I kept a tally of everything. One day, I forced myself to heal (mars/pluto) and moved on. I told myself closure would never come but I could choose a better life. I haven't forgiven them but I have forgiven myself for being unable to fight. And with that came the ability to experience genuine happiness.

But I can relate to what you say. I don't judge people's urges for revenge. If they can get it, good for them

If something godawful happened to me or someone I truly loved, I could snap back into that mode. But it wouldn't be my default anymore.

posted March 28, 2014 05:57 PM            

I know many many Virgos who when hurt by someone get extremely vindictive. Will lie, cheat, or steal whatever it is to get back at that person.

Scorpios are more so, from what I've seen, into getting even and hurting or upsetting who ever did so to them a thousand times more.

I know a few Leos who are very revengeful and will go to great lengths to prove "their point".

Cancers also very vindictive and pathological liars when upset.

Capricorns are evil when really upset and seek death it seems LOL

I'd say hard moon and mars aspects
House placements

posted March 28, 2014 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I know many Libras from work and friends who are very vindictive when crossed. I myself when pushed over the edge by someone can be very vindictive. I'm very patient(you out of everyone know this honey 😘lol) and it takes A LOT to push me and when I am things can get crazy. I see red.

I know many many Virgos who when hurt by someone get extremely vindictive. Will lie, cheat, or steal whatever it is to get back at that person.

Scorpios are more so, from what I've seen, into getting even and hurting or upsetting who ever did so to them a thousand times more.

I know a few Leos who are very revengeful and will go to great lengths to prove "their point".

Cancers also very vindictive and pathological liars when upset.

Capricorns are evil when really upset and seek death it seems LOL

I'd say hard moon and mars aspects
House placements

All PERSONAL experiences

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I dont know enough about Cancer or Virgo to agree but I think you're spot on about others.

I'm Libra moon and conj Mars in 8th so maybe that's where I get it from lol.

posted March 28, 2014 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
And you thought you knew everything about the 12H.

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Did I say that? No.

posted March 28, 2014 06:24 PM            

Like barbiegirl19 said... Oh she can!
think it's the Scorpio Venus!

posted March 28, 2014 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
And you thought you knew everything about the 12H.

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Don't claim that you didn't get a fair chance and a fair warning. You did, but you can't control yourself.
Heck I'm a Leo and I can but if you keep poking me then I'll burn you.
We've left you alone so what's YOUR problem? You've instigated EVERY SINGLE confrontation this second chance of yours. Which makes you vengeful also I'd say.... Bringing up crap from January in order to try to insult me.

posted March 28, 2014 07:03 PM            

I don't see virgo like that, I know others disagree but I've not seen it in any virgos I've known.
I have a virgo moon n 12th, I'm the very least vindictive person ever. My gemini mars can hardly remember what I get angry about 10 minutes after I'm over it, it's more trouble trying to remember the offense than it's worth.

posted March 28, 2014 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I know many Libras from work and friends who are very vindictive when crossed. I myself when pushed over the edge by someone can be very vindictive. I'm very patient(you out of everyone know this honey 😘lol) and it takes A LOT to push me and when I am things can get crazy. I see red.

I know many many Virgos who when hurt by someone get extremely vindictive. Will lie, cheat, or steal whatever it is to get back at that person.

Scorpios are more so, from what I've seen, into getting even and hurting or upsetting who ever did so to them a thousand times more.

I know a few Leos who are very revengeful and will go to great lengths to prove "their point".

Cancers also very vindictive and pathological liars when upset.

Capricorns are evil when really upset and seek death it seems LOL

I'd say hard moon and mars aspects
House placements

All PERSONAL experiences

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Man, yes.
My mom: Cancer Sun opposite Capricorn Moon (conjunct Pholus), and Scorpio Asc.

That woman does not forget, and can be one of the most vindictive, mean-spirited people I've ever encountered. And while she doesn't outright "lie", she repeats the same stupid stories about how so-and-so slighted her, and exaggerates the scenario.

I mean...I love my mom, she's gotten better over the years, but yeah. She'll wait and plot, hit below the belt, whatever.

I can strike pretty hard below the belt too (Pisces Sun in 8th conjunct Pholus, opposite Virgo Moon), but I really make a concerted effort not to. Not that the thoughts don't cross my mind, but I just try to not do that.

It always creates repercussions for me, so I just don't.

posted March 28, 2014 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Every Virgo i know is vindictive, and i am not an exception. I never forget no matter the lapsed time......sigh

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I'm actually kinda agreeing .

I also have Scorpio Mars, Sun sextile Pluto and Moon trine Pluto.

For me, I don't EVER set out to hurt or mistreat anyone and I treat everyone with respect UNTIL you cross me, insult me, or I get that gut feeling that you're trying to bs me like I'm dumb. When that happens, it's over and you won't know it until it's too late.

I'm always really calm about it too making it worse for the person who automatically equates a calm and friendly personality to a sign of being an easy target. I always know how to get back at people in the best way without even laying a finger on them. After that happens, it's a guarantee that said person(s) won't try anything again.

*BUT I will say that I won't lie/cheat/steal to get back at anyone. I never need to stoop that low nor feel the desire to. If anything I use the other persons actions/words against them Ex. recording conversations for evidence and taking pictures of things of mine that were damaged, taking screenshots of threats/insults on their social media etc. and just piling on the evidence until it's the right time to expose it to someone of higher power.

posted March 28, 2014 09:09 PM            

Mars is anger, mars is also manipulation.

People who don't know how to release anger, manipulate information to take revenge. When in the 12H, it becomes sneaky attacks. A backstabbing quality should I say.

Trying to justify it is just bizarre. You don't know how to release anger so you find reasons to justify releasing it. You claim you are a victim that's why "I had to do it".

It becomes a loop.

And thank you for the warning.

If I get banned again, it's very the same person who maligned me for a thread I did not even create last time because he doesn't know how to deal with anger properly, proceeds to a forum to ask about it and gets angry when people tell him what's wrong with him.

If you can't handle advice, why even ask for it?

posted March 28, 2014 09:09 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Thank you Gabby!
It must be the Leo.
My Pluto is not badly aspected.
Sextile Saturn and Neptune.
Neptune and Saturn trine

The thing that I would definitely say Virgo contributes is that I DO not forget even if I forgive. I couldn't if I wanted to.

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posted March 28, 2014 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:

For me, I don't EVER set out to hurt or mistreat anyone and I treat everyone with respect UNTIL you cross me, insult me, or I get that gut feeling that you're trying to bs me like I'm dumb. When that happens, it's over and you won't know it until it's too late.

I'm always really calm about it too making it worse for the person who automatically equates a calm and friendly personality to a sign of being an easy target. I always know how to get back at people in the best way without even laying a finger on them. After that happens, it's a guarantee that said person(s) won't try anything again.

*BUT I will say that I won't lie/cheat/steal to get back at anyone. I never need to stoop that low nor feel the desire to. If anything I use the other persons actions/words against them.

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ay! every single word in your post reflects my thoughts down to a t...
I need say no more

posted March 28, 2014 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
And thank you for the warning.

If I get banned again, it's very the same person who maligned me for a thread I did not even create last time because he doesn't know how to deal with anger properly, proceeds to a forum to ask about it and gets angry when people tell him what's wrong with him.

If you can't handle advice, why even ask for it?

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posted March 28, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Man, yes.
My mom: Cancer Sun opposite Capricorn Moon (conjunct Pholus), and Scorpio Asc.

That woman does not forget, and can be one of the most vindictive, mean-spirited people I've ever encountered. And while she doesn't outright "lie", she repeats the same stupid stories about how so-and-so slighted her, and exaggerates the scenario.

I mean...I love my mom, she's gotten better over the years, but yeah. She'll wait and plot, hit below the belt, whatever.

I can strike pretty hard below the belt too (Pisces Sun in 8th conjunct Pholus, opposite Virgo Moon), but I really make a concerted effort not to. Not that the thoughts don't cross my mind, but I just try to not do that.

It always creates repercussions for me, so I just don't.

By the way, congratulations to you both! I haven't been on Astro 2.0 for a while, and I just saw your thread.

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