posted March 31, 2014 07:44 PM              

And conversely, what aspects would a woman have who lives with a man or is married and suspects her partner is cheating but puts up with it anyway.

posted March 31, 2014 10:21 PM              

Mars in libra
Moon in libra (called the courtesan moon)
12th house aspects maybe?
Look at venus/pluto aspects
Mars/venus
Maybe 8th house too.
Lilith conjunct mars
Lilith conjunct pluto

Synastry

Other woman:

Might just be to keep a family together, financial support, worried about what others think.

posted March 31, 2014 11:09 PM              

A friend of mine recently inquired about how and why women often get entangled in love triangles.

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This article features natal aspects and placements found in the charts of famous mistresses, and discusses how these aspects relate to their role as the much-hated "Other Woman".

1) Hard Pisces and Neptune influences in the love sector makes the person very self-sacrificial, compassionate, impressionable, and delusional when it comes to relationships.​

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A woman I recently did a reading for had a chart full of Neptune, most notably: Venus in Pisces. She was involved with a man who claimed to love her, but was living with his long-term girlfriend, with whom he had a couple of children. This man would complain to my client constantly about how his girlfriend beat him up, treated him badly, etc.. He told my client he couldn't leave girlfriend because he relied on his girlfriend financially. My client, being a Neptunian, bought into this and began a sexual/emotional relationship with him. She said she wanted to "help" him, and did so by staying with him and offering him unconditional love and support while he was "suffering" at the hands of his abusive girlfriend. In doing so, she sacrificed her own needs in order to make him happy. She said, "I know he truly loves ME, but he's just with her for financial reasons, and since I love him so much, I'm going to stay with him."

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Piscean/Neptunian people like to "save" people, and this is often done through self-sacrifice. When you're completely blinded by love for someone, it's difficult to let go, especially when that Neptunian cloud is blurring your vision. You make excuses for the person, doing anything to keep the "dream" alive in order to avoid facing the truth. You can't reason with a Venus-Neptune/Piscean person when it comes to this stuff because they're so convinced everything is okay.

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Rielle Hunter (mistress of John Edwards) has Venus opposite Neptune. Katharine Hepburn (mistress of Spencer Tracy) has Venus square Neptune. I think this is the most common aspect among mistresses.

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2) I've noticed Venus square Pluto in the natal chart often indicates someone who gets entangled in love triangles. I find that this is common among people who have affairs on their partners, as well as people who end up being the "other woman/man". This aspect is known for fatalistic tendencies in love. Venus-Pluto people are known for getting into addictive relationships, even if they're toxic, because unavailable people are so attractive to them. Even in a painful situation, it's still hard for Venus-Pluto people to let go because the feelings are so intense. Also, women with this aspect are irresistible to men, complicating matters even further. Natives with this aspect must be careful to not fall into sexually/financially exploitative relationships.

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3) Heavy 12th house influences can also indicate someone who loves secret relationships. This is especially true if Venus is in the 12th house. This is similar to the Neptune/Piscean influence I mentioned before. The 12th house is all about secrets, and having Venus in here would point to a fondness for secret affairs. It turns them on. It's the kind of relationship which makes them feel most comfortable. Like Neptune/Pisces people, they love the unattainable and tend to fantasize about/idealize their lovers, and might not see their relationships clearly.

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4) Heavily Saturnian people ​may also be susceptible to entering relationships with "taken" men. Especially with hard aspects, the person might feel unworthy of love, and has a general distrust for the opposite sex. He/she expects people to cheat, lie, deceive, so these relationships become "normal" to them. If you think every guy is a cheater, it's easy to end up being with a cheater!

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5) Heavily Uranian people. Too independent, commitment-phobic, and restless to have a "regular" relationship. The people who offer them "real" relationships scare them off. What turns a Uranian person on is often someone he/she cannot have, hence the attraction to an unavailable man. Also, the attraction stems from the fact that they, themselves, are incapable of having a committed relationship, so they pick people who have no time for them (i.e. people who are already in relationships).

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Synastry aspects and transits can bring these types of relationships into your life, too (i.e. Pluto or Neptune squaring your Venus, or someone's Neptune/Pluto squaring your Venus). Under these influences, you are easily swayed or compelled to enter a relationship with the person you meet. These influences often denote deception, delusion, and obsession in relationships.

http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!the-other-woman/c6ul

posted March 31, 2014 11:13 PM              

But I never been involved with people old enough to be married because I doubt their are many in their 20's..
But I did steal someone who was in a relationship before..
It's not cheating if you happen to break up relationship before you get involved.. right?

posted April 01, 2014 07:22 AM              

But this...

quote:

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
posted October 05, 2012 09:40 PM
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Katharine Hepburn (mistress of Spencer Tracy) has Venus square Neptune. I think this is the most common aspect among mistresses.

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I've got this Venus square neptune aspect (also T-squared with Aquarius). Fixed planets Scorpio in the 1st (Neptune), Aqua 4th (Moon), Leo 10th (Venus). My Venus also conjuncts Mars in Leo.

I seem to attract men who are already in relationships or even marriages and they are prepared to cheat on their partners for whatever it is they are after with me. I don't think it's even sex (NOT that I give it), more like I've been told I'm like a rock to them. One guy even said I was the only person he felt comfortable with to talk about issues.

I think in all cases they were deluding themselves or going through a phase of thinking I could offer something better. Which I can't. When they came to their senses, they couldn't get away quick enough. Curiously, virtually all have been Libra men, one was a Taurus.

Personally I hate this. At the end of the day I want a guy all to myself, and I never want to mess with the other woman (I like women too much as friends) or be the cause of any breakup. I tell them that.

However Venusian Moon also mentioned heavily Uranian people (which resonates with my Uranus in 11th house in Virgo conjunct Pluto and Mercury) and might explain my side of things too: "Too independent, commitment-phobic, and restless to have a "regular" relationship. The people who offer them "real" relationships scare them off. What turns a Uranian person on is often someone he/she cannot have, hence the attraction to an unavailable man. Also, the attraction stems from the fact that they, themselves, are incapable of having a committed relationship, so they pick people who have no time for them (i.e. people who are already in relationships)."

posted April 01, 2014 12:45 PM            

Sag sun/asc, Aries moon, venus cap, mars aqua

The ruler of my 7th house, mercury, is tightly conjunct my Neptune. Pluto was transiting conjunct my mercury/Neptune when we met.

She put up with it..

Cancer sun, Aries moon, venus in Gemini, mars in cancer.

Her venus is conjunct chiron. Moon is opp Pluto.

I think the synastry was quite telling..

My venus conj his south node
My vertex conj his north node
Venus conj venus
His saturn/Pluto/mars square my venus
My Pluto sq his venus
His Lilith conj my sun/asc
Saturn opp moon double whammy

Sexually addictive but so much saturn.. We lasted 4 yrs until I pulled the plug.

Her sun/mars conj his north node
His moon conj her north node
His uranus exactly opp her venus
His saturn/Pluto/mars sq her sun/mars

posted April 01, 2014 02:15 PM              

quote:

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
the home-wrecker etc.

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I've only ever been the "other woman" once in my life where sex was involved (and once is definitely ENOUGH for me), but I really hate this stereotype. It's the man who makes the ultimate decision to wreck the home, not the "other" woman.

That's why as much as I enjoyed that 1980s movie Fatal Attraction (amazing acting by everyone btw) it was hugely hypocritical that Glenn Close was made the scapegoat when Michael Douglas obviously couldn't keep it in his pants.

posted April 01, 2014 05:07 PM              

She put up with it. Not sure of her birthdate but she is a gemini/taurus cusp and i am a gemini/cancer cusp.

She actually picked up my daughter last weekend along with her brothers. That was nice of her.

I met him 8 years ago. My daughter is 5 1/2 now. Babies a gemini too.

posted April 01, 2014 08:14 PM              

Going back to Lilith (which I've never taken account of in my chart before now), mine is in Sagittarius and forms a T-square with my Virgo sun and Gemini NN. Hmmmm. Saturn provides some relief however by trining Gemini NN and sextile Lilith.

posted April 01, 2014 08:42 PM              

quote:

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Originally posted by Jo B:
I've only ever been the "other woman" once in my life where sex was involved (and once is definitely ENOUGH for me), but I really hate this stereotype. It's the man who makes the ultimate decision to wreck the home, not the "other" woman.

That's why as much as I enjoyed that 1980s movie Fatal Attraction (amazing acting by everyone btw) it was hugely hypocritical that Glenn Close was made the scapegoat when Michael Douglas obviously couldn't keep it in his pants.

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I agree with what you said. The woman and the man always share the "blame".

posted April 01, 2014 08:51 PM              

quote:

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Lilith? Really?

No no, that can't be right. Lilith was the first wife that refused, Eve was the second wife that accepted her place.

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Hilarious as usually, MsPrism!

posted December 29, 2023 07:54 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
posted October 05, 2012 09:40 PM
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The Astrology of the "Other Woman"
​

A friend of mine recently inquired about how and why women often get entangled in love triangles.

​

This article features natal aspects and placements found in the charts of famous mistresses, and discusses how these aspects relate to their role as the much-hated "Other Woman".

1) Hard Pisces and Neptune influences in the love sector makes the person very self-sacrificial, compassionate, impressionable, and delusional when it comes to relationships.​

​​

A woman I recently did a reading for had a chart full of Neptune, most notably: Venus in Pisces. She was involved with a man who claimed to love her, but was living with his long-term girlfriend, with whom he had a couple of children. This man would complain to my client constantly about how his girlfriend beat him up, treated him badly, etc.. He told my client he couldn't leave girlfriend because he relied on his girlfriend financially. My client, being a Neptunian, bought into this and began a sexual/emotional relationship with him. She said she wanted to "help" him, and did so by staying with him and offering him unconditional love and support while he was "suffering" at the hands of his abusive girlfriend. In doing so, she sacrificed her own needs in order to make him happy. She said, "I know he truly loves ME, but he's just with her for financial reasons, and since I love him so much, I'm going to stay with him."

​

Piscean/Neptunian people like to "save" people, and this is often done through self-sacrifice. When you're completely blinded by love for someone, it's difficult to let go, especially when that Neptunian cloud is blurring your vision. You make excuses for the person, doing anything to keep the "dream" alive in order to avoid facing the truth. You can't reason with a Venus-Neptune/Piscean person when it comes to this stuff because they're so convinced everything is okay.

​

Rielle Hunter (mistress of John Edwards) has Venus opposite Neptune. Katharine Hepburn (mistress of Spencer Tracy) has Venus square Neptune. I think this is the most common aspect among mistresses.

​

2) I've noticed Venus square Pluto in the natal chart often indicates someone who gets entangled in love triangles. I find that this is common among people who have affairs on their partners, as well as people who end up being the "other woman/man". This aspect is known for fatalistic tendencies in love. Venus-Pluto people are known for getting into addictive relationships, even if they're toxic, because unavailable people are so attractive to them. Even in a painful situation, it's still hard for Venus-Pluto people to let go because the feelings are so intense. Also, women with this aspect are irresistible to men, complicating matters even further. Natives with this aspect must be careful to not fall into sexually/financially exploitative relationships.

​

3) Heavy 12th house influences can also indicate someone who loves secret relationships. This is especially true if Venus is in the 12th house. This is similar to the Neptune/Piscean influence I mentioned before. The 12th house is all about secrets, and having Venus in here would point to a fondness for secret affairs. It turns them on. It's the kind of relationship which makes them feel most comfortable. Like Neptune/Pisces people, they love the unattainable and tend to fantasize about/idealize their lovers, and might not see their relationships clearly.

​

4) Heavily Saturnian people ​may also be susceptible to entering relationships with "taken" men. Especially with hard aspects, the person might feel unworthy of love, and has a general distrust for the opposite sex. He/she expects people to cheat, lie, deceive, so these relationships become "normal" to them. If you think every guy is a cheater, it's easy to end up being with a cheater!

​

5) Heavily Uranian people. Too independent, commitment-phobic, and restless to have a "regular" relationship. The people who offer them "real" relationships scare them off. What turns a Uranian person on is often someone he/she cannot have, hence the attraction to an unavailable man. Also, the attraction stems from the fact that they, themselves, are incapable of having a committed relationship, so they pick people who have no time for them (i.e. people who are already in relationships).

​

Synastry aspects and transits can bring these types of relationships into your life, too (i.e. Pluto or Neptune squaring your Venus, or someone's Neptune/Pluto squaring your Venus). Under these influences, you are easily swayed or compelled to enter a relationship with the person you meet. These influences often denote deception, delusion, and obsession in relationships.

http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!the-other-woman/c6ul

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Spot on.
Uranus conjunct my sun, both in aquarius.
Neptune conjunct my Venus, widely conjunct the sun too.
Mars in pisces and Scorpio rising. Mars on the IC too.
Capricorn stellium (moon mercury Venus) even squared by Saturn...

And the description of how the saturnian/uranian/piscean influence would work explains perfectly how it is for me.