posted April 01, 2014 01:10 AM            

Jupiter was just in retro, no?
What was that period like?

My dad has a stellium in the second and is just such a hot mess with his finances

posted April 01, 2014 05:16 AM            

11th is wages because your boss is represented by your MC and his money (his 2nd, which is 2nd house from your MC in your chart) is the 11th and it becomes your pay.

2nd is your money in general but also ISSUES (or expenses as Kero put it ,which is a subset of issues).

I would consider your bank account as 2nd though because it is a possession of yours and possessions also include choses of action, that is, non-tangible property such as bank accounts.

4th rules any land and houses you have in your possession including ancestral lands from family or fathers in particular.

The 8th rules other peoples' money and how you have control over it and thus inheritance. It also rules your partner's money. Other people and your partner in your chart are represented by the 7th and their possessions is the 2nd from the 7th making your 8th in your chart. A good accountant would have something like Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in the 8th, he's kind to other peoples' money. I don't think aspect afflictions have an impact in traditional but would in modern.

Placements that improve chances of obtaining money or having a good relationship with money are Jupiter, NN or Venus in the 2nd. Seem say Jupiter has some joy in the 2nd. Likewise, the malefics like Saturn and Mars and SN are considered poorly placed in the 2nd and indicates negative issues. Traditionally Rx planets are not considered helpful. Look also to the signs of these planets as well. For example, Jupiter in Capricorn in 2nd will not operate well.

posted April 01, 2014 05:38 AM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Kero is right with houses mostly.

11th is wages because your boss is represented by your MC and his money (his 2nd, which is 2nd house from your MC in your chart) is the 11th and it becomes your pay.

2nd is your money in general but also ISSUES (or expenses as Kero put it ,which is a subset of issues).

I would consider your bank account as 2nd though because it is a possession of yours and possessions also include choses of action, that is, non-tangible property such as bank accounts.

4th rules any land and houses you have in your possession including ancestral lands from family or fathers in particular.

The 8th rules other peoples' money and how you have control over it and thus inheritance. It also rules your partner's money. Other people and your partner in your chart are represented by the 7th and their possessions is the 2nd from the 7th making your 8th in your chart. A good accountant would have something like Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in the 8th, he's kind to other peoples' money. I don't think aspect afflictions have an impact in traditional but would in modern.

Placements that improve chances of obtaining money or having a good relationship with money are Jupiter, NN or Venus in the 2nd. Seem say Jupiter has some joy in the 2nd. Likewise, the malefics like Saturn and Mars and SN are considered poorly placed in the 2nd and indicates negative issues. Traditionally Rx planets are not considered helpful. Look also to the signs of these planets as well. For example, Jupiter in Capricorn in 2nd will not operate well.

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posted April 01, 2014 06:17 AM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Jo - I would say that having no planets in the 2nd means you have no issues in this lifetime with money or no lessons with money in this lifetime. It doesn't necessarily mean that you can't hold onto money.

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OK, that's good to know!

posted April 01, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Awww Firemoon... I'm sorry to hear about yr financial situation. Dont worry. It will pass n things will get better. I thought Jupiter in the second house means u will be well off.
I have a Leo Moon in my second house and ruler of my second house in my eleventh house. I think I will have yo work in an organisation/group to make money. Moon is my chart ruler(Cancer Asc). My tenth house(aries) ruler mars is in my third house. I'm planning to quit my current job. I will be opening a Play school with Day care next year. I hope it will work out cuz I'm investing all my savings and borrowing money (eeks)! According to vedics moon in the second house is not good at all. But I'm looking at my tropical chart.

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Thanks geminigal I'm a Cancer rising too... Is tJupiter in your 12th still? What has that been like? I'm sort of counting down the days until it goes back into my 1st lol cause at least then I felt like I had my head above water...

Anyway it's interesting having Jupiter rx in 2nd. I grew up very middle class but my parents put everything they could save into sending us to an expensive private school so I had a good education (Sag moon?) Then when my parents got divorced I stopped going to private school and they both sort of had a financial crisis until my dad married a lawyer (such a gold digger lol) but I didn't exactly get along with my dad and that was her money so I didn't really benefit from it except for the occasional family vacation which I usually wasn't invited to anyway. Then in college I got a scholarship but still had to take out some loans as well which is what I'm dealing with now...

posted April 01, 2014 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Kero is right with houses mostly.

11th is wages because your boss is represented by your MC and his money (his 2nd, which is 2nd house from your MC in your chart) is the 11th and it becomes your pay.

2nd is your money in general but also ISSUES (or expenses as Kero put it ,which is a subset of issues).

I would consider your bank account as 2nd though because it is a possession of yours and possessions also include choses of action, that is, non-tangible property such as bank accounts.

4th rules any land and houses you have in your possession including ancestral lands from family or fathers in particular.

The 8th rules other peoples' money and how you have control over it and thus inheritance. It also rules your partner's money. Other people and your partner in your chart are represented by the 7th and their possessions is the 2nd from the 7th making your 8th in your chart. A good accountant would have something like Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in the 8th, he's kind to other peoples' money. I don't think aspect afflictions have an impact in traditional but would in modern.

Placements that improve chances of obtaining money or having a good relationship with money are Jupiter, NN or Venus in the 2nd. Seem say Jupiter has some joy in the 2nd. Likewise, the malefics like Saturn and Mars and SN are considered poorly placed in the 2nd and indicates negative issues. Traditionally Rx planets are not considered helpful. Look also to the signs of these planets as well. For example, Jupiter in Capricorn in 2nd will not operate well.

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If you wouldn't mind I have a couple questions since this has always confused me in my chart... What would you say about Leo Jupiter rx in 2nd (ruler in 7th), Aqua Venus in 8th (Saturn in 7th conjunct 2nd house ruler) Uranus in 6th widely conjunct Cap Dsc?

Also my MC is Pisces, and I have Neptune conjunct Uranus and Sun (2nd and 8th rulers)... I can't tell if all this means I'll end up receiving financial help from others, or I'll be the one providing it lol.

posted April 01, 2014 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
i have pluto in my 2nd house/ 3rd house cusp. idk, ive always been good with money. if its either obtained through my own, or by donations from somebody else. lately its been more of a worry, but im really good at knowing what to spend it on and what not to spend it on. im also really posessive of my things. not because its the things, but because they are MINE!
last week my mom had a party at the house and i had some beer i bought from a few states over in the fridge. i didnt think too much about it as the fridge was off limits...there were coolers etc everywhere. but i came home after the party, and noticed i had no more of my beer! boy was i upset lol. im not even a huge beer drinker, its just i get SUPER ****** when you take something that is MINE without asking.

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Haha thanks for your response this made me laugh Are you an only child?

posted April 01, 2014 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Hi! I'm a little bit confused about mine..i definitely think i have a complicate 2nd house, but for some reason i can't put all my attention on it.
The cusp is in saggitarius, but uranus and neptune are there, in capricorn opposite sun,mercury and jupiter in cancer all of them. Well, the oppositions comes mostly from neptune and that is the part i feel more.
I'm trying to work in the arts field.
All the jobs i have had were a very short period of time, i don't know why but there was a time not too long ago i felt like i was unable to find a job, i was all the mornings sending my cv and going to places but i had no lucky, like they just didn't call..all my friends found it very quickly, but in my case was like something didn't work well. I mean, i have had a lot of jobs and worked for the first time at 16 and i have worked in very different places, but it was always for some reason or other very short time..
Now it seems the situation is changing a little, this last months i had the opportunity to work for the first time in what i want to do and i hope it will continue this way.
But definitely, i feel this neptune effect and maybe more because at the same time is opposite my sun, which confuses me more.
If you had information about this could you tell me? Sometimes is confusing that the cusp is in a sign, but then you have planets in the same house but another sign....bbbbffff weird?

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Hi JudyVanTassel, I wish I knew more about oppositions between the 2nd and 8th house, but anything I could try to explain would probably be inaccurate or only confuse you more lol. I feel like Uranus conjunct Neptune is difficult in any house... Mine is in the 6th also affecting my DSC, but my job history has definitely been sporadic too. I also have Sun-Neptune and Pisces MC so I understand the confusion lol. Working in the arts seems very fitting though...

posted April 01, 2014 02:56 PM            

Having money in and of itself has never been my ambition ..true. But I have always seen money as being able to afford me the things that I desired the most- FREEDOM , INDEPENDENCE and SELF-SUSTAINABILITY.

Moon-Mars square, Moon-Saturn trine natally is the innate need for independence and personal governance.

Mercury is the ruler of the 2nd house and 6th house.It's respective square with Mars suggests ,to me ,that money will never come easy. Not without much effort(Mars).

And Mercury opposition with Moon also suggests that neither Money(2nd) nor Job(6th) will be stable.

I earned money(2nd) strictly through my job(6th) and when that ended, so did the money.

Currently I am unemployed and very frustrated. My Moon-Mars/Moon-Saturn aspirations are not yet realized and its very disheartening.

At the time that my contract expired and I left my job, transiting Mercury conjunct natal Neptune in Sagittarius and natal Mercury in Capricorn opposed transiting Jupiter in Cancer.

I think that 2nd house does refer to wealth. I sure as hell don't have any and the ruler of my 2nd house(Mercury) is still opposing Jupiter. So I don't think I'll find a job anytime soon.

Add to that, transiting Mercury in Pisces is squaring my natal Jupiter in Sagittarius and will move on to square natal Neptune thereafter.

posted April 01, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Kero is right with houses mostly.

11th is wages because your boss is represented by your MC and his money (his 2nd, which is 2nd house from your MC in your chart) is the 11th and it becomes your pay.

2nd is your money in general but also ISSUES (or expenses as Kero put it ,which is a subset of issues).

I would consider your bank account as 2nd though because it is a possession of yours and possessions also include choses of action, that is, non-tangible property such as bank accounts.

4th rules any land and houses you have in your possession including ancestral lands from family or fathers in particular.

The 8th rules other peoples' money and how you have control over it and thus inheritance. It also rules your partner's money. Other people and your partner in your chart are represented by the 7th and their possessions is the 2nd from the 7th making your 8th in your chart. A good accountant would have something like Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in the 8th, he's kind to other peoples' money. I don't think aspect afflictions have an impact in traditional but would in modern.

Placements that improve chances of obtaining money or having a good relationship with money are Jupiter, NN or Venus in the 2nd. Seem say Jupiter has some joy in the 2nd. Likewise, the malefics like Saturn and Mars and SN are considered poorly placed in the 2nd and indicates negative issues. Traditionally Rx planets are not considered helpful. Look also to the signs of these planets as well. For example, Jupiter in Capricorn in 2nd will not operate well.

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posted April 01, 2014 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Haha thanks for your response this made me laugh Are you an only child?

With Leo Jupiter you would think I'd be possessive but if anything I have an issue with being overly generous with others, or "spending big" when really I should be saving...

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haha no, i have a brother but he is ten years older than me. im the spoiled one but i definitely dont have a problem giving to others. i think its more the principle of taking something that isnt yours that bothers me the most. i ALWAYS ask before even touching anybody elses stuff, i was raised with a healthy respect for other peoples boundaries and i expect the same respect for mine.

posted April 02, 2014 08:46 AM            

I have my MC in Saggittarius, my sun in 10th House in Capricorn. My 11th House is also in Capricorn with Mars and Mercury (retro). I guess that's the paycheck.

The Jupiter Trines MC, so that's good. But that Jupiter also means that money flies out the door in instantaneous spurts.

My 8th House in Libra and empty, but I have some inheritance. My 4th house is empty.