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Topic: 11th harmonics and Twinflames
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tgem Knowflake Posts: 1657 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 08:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: What famous love stories do you consider to be twinflames or at least soulmate couples?
I think Johnny and June would be a good one to look at as well. Our most significant: My sun opp his Uranus and ASC My venus opp his neptune My mercury (chart ruler) opp his Pluto (ASC ruler) His moon opp my jupiter and ASC His venus (chart ruler) opposite my IC (ruled by mercury- my chart ruler) His mars opp my jupiter IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 09:03 AM
I`ve just rewatched the film last week. Love their story. So encouraging. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 09:04 AM
too bad though, that her birthtime is unknown. it means her 11th harmonic is virtually *useless* as the Sun-position can vary to 10 degrees and the Venus-position as well, not even mentioning the Moon. lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 09:34 AM
however what we CAN be certain about:° her Saturn conjunct his MC on GC ° her Saturn square his nodal axis exact ° her Saturn loosely square his ASC - this makes totally sense, considering how she helped him get his life "back on track" ° her Sun tightly trine his Mars and loosely trine his Sun and Moon
° her Saturn square his nodal axis as I mentionied ° his Chiron conjunct her NN ° his Jupiter loosely square her nodal axis as to oppositions to luminaries (and planets): ° his Mars opposite her Neptune (out of sign) there are no real strong oppositions;
his Moon on the antiscion of her Mars his Jupiter on the antiscion of her Venus
something I found interesting was that they both had a Venus-Pluto-aspect natally (his was the square, hers a tight sextile), and in synastry her Pluto was square his Venus(-uranus)tightly. Nevertheless, maybe because of the missing birthtime, but it could have looked stronger (one reason I love the synastry so much, it is puzzling; it seems to be not as great as many others who never come together, so I think it coule be a great tool to find out WHAT it is specifically that makes a comparision "fly"). However, where it really comes together is the Draco-chart. For example her (trop. Sun) on his Dr IC her Saturn on his Dr MC still her Pluto on his Dr Juno her Juno on his Dr Moon
his ASC-NN on her Dr Venus-Chiron his Moon on her Dr Saturn his Moon opposte her Dr Sun
his Dr ASC on her Dr Venus-Chiron his Dr Moon opp. her Dr Sun exact (on 11 Scorpio-Taurus!) his Dr Venus conj. her Dr Mercury
just scratching the surface naturally
8they also had an exact Amor-Juno-conjunction int he Dracos, loosely connected to his relationship-axis IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 10:27 AM
^^^What is it about Amor-Juno conjunction that you know? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 11:42 AM
I just remembered, it seemed to pop up quite often in pairings we used to suspect to be soulmates. Idonīt know much about it, except that it was obvious enough for me to to notice it. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 12:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I just remembered, it seemed to pop up quite often in pairings we used to suspect to be soulmates. Idonīt know much about it, except that it was obvious enough for me to to notice it.
because I have that both ways in my synastry - my Juno conj his Amor and his Juno conj my Valentine, both 0 degree conjunctions. His Juno aslo conj my Eros at 2 degrees. Googled it just now but i could only find an old thread by you from 2008 basically stating that you often see that in synastries... Kim Flaconer says that Juno and Eros are opoosites, while Juno wants commitment, Eros wants pleasure IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 13, 2014 02:48 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem: [B] I think Johnny and June would be a good one to look at as well. I love these two, too bad about the ASC. Still, not your usual "classic" synastry.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 03:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: because I have that both ways in my synastry - his Juno conj my Amor and my Juno conj his Valentine, both 0 degree conjunctions. His Juno aslo conj my Eros at 2 degrees. Googled it just now but i could only find an old thread by you from 2008 basically stating that you often see that in synastries... Kim Flaconer says that Juno and Eros are opoosites, while Juno wants commitment, Eros wants pleasure
I donīt quite agree with that. But actually I have always seen her emphasize that Eros wants TRANSFORMATIOn (pleasure might be a part of it, but is not the end-goal). I could subscribe to that. Eros transforms (through passion). Juno herself is also passionate, but she is passionate about commitment and making a working equal relationship, while Eros might not care about lastingness so much, as long as the soul is transformed.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 03:23 PM
btw, Juno-Amor, and Juno-Valentine sounds just soo lovely, so LOVING. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 13, 2014 03:37 PM
I agree, Juno Eros is a committed erotic partnership, with the two of them exploring their erotic side and with sexual fidelity.I also look for Juno Psyche and Juno Alma. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: btw, Juno-Amor, and Juno-Valentine sounds just soo lovely, so LOVING.
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I also look for Juno Psyche and Juno Alma.
My Alma conjuncts his Amor, too. 0 degree conjunction. I have a natal tight Juno-Alma conjunction and his Amor is right on top of it. Amor on Alma feels like heaven, ethereal. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12698 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 04:47 PM
those are marvellous conjunctions.  I am almost envious. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 13, 2014 05:07 PM
Great aspects, Orange! Your natal Alma Juno already shows the possibility to reunite with your soulmate. Him right on top of it...it's a big deal!IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 05:15 PM
well, ladiesI didnt mentioned it before, but the brutal truth is that my Saturn is right in the midst of that beautiful mixture, too. My natal Juno/Alma also conjuncts my Saturn. It's a bit further, though, 3 degrees off. His Amor is on my saturn, too, 3 degrees away. GAH! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 13, 2014 05:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: well, ladiesI didnt mentioned it before, but the brutal truth is that my Saturn is right in the midst of that beautiful mixture, too. My natal Juno/Alma also conjuncts my Saturn. It's a bit further, though, 3 degrees off. His Amor is on my saturn, 3 degrees away. GAH!
It's OK...you're an old soul...he's an old love  But does it really show as a "wet blanket", to use a cliche? IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: It's OK...you're an old soul...he's an old love  But does it really show as a "wet blanket", to use a cliche?
Not a wet blanket as of yet. We have Amor-Saturn conjunction going both ways in synastry, both conjunctions are 3 degrees orb, so not that close. It shows up in the Composite too - exact Amor/Saturn/Destinn conjunction in the 1st, trinning Venus at 0 degree. He is a crush of mine and I absolutely adore him from head to toe. I can tell that he adores me the same way.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 13, 2014 05:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Not a wet blanket as of yet. We have Amor-Saturn conjunction going both ways in synastry, both conjunctions are 3 degrees orb, so not that close. It shows up in the Composite too - exact Amor/Saturn/Destinn conjunction in the 1st. He is a crush of mine and I absolutely adore him from head to toe. I can tell that he adores me the same way.
Then it's the old soul old love thing  IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1478 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 13, 2014 05:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Then it's the old soul old love thing 
I think so, too. My Pluto opposes his Venus at 0 degree, too. Thanks, LL  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2014 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 25, 2014 07:09 AM
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