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tgem
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posted May 13, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What famous love stories do you consider to be twinflames or at least soulmate couples?

I think Johnny and June would be a good one to look at as well.

Our most significant:
My sun opp his Uranus and ASC
My venus opp his neptune
My mercury (chart ruler) opp his Pluto (ASC ruler)

His moon opp my jupiter and ASC
His venus (chart ruler) opposite my IC (ruled by mercury- my chart ruler)
His mars opp my jupiter

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posted May 13, 2014 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`ve just rewatched the film last week. Love their story. So encouraging.

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posted May 13, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
too bad though, that her birthtime is unknown.


it means her 11th harmonic is virtually *useless* as the Sun-position can vary to 10 degrees and the Venus-position as well, not even mentioning the Moon. lol

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posted May 13, 2014 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
however what we CAN be certain about:

° her Saturn conjunct his MC on GC
° her Saturn square his nodal axis exact
° her Saturn loosely square his ASC
- this makes totally sense, considering how she helped him get his life "back on track"


° her Sun tightly trine his Mars and loosely trine his Sun and Moon

° her Saturn square his nodal axis as I mentionied
° his Chiron conjunct her NN
° his Jupiter loosely square her nodal axis

as to oppositions to luminaries (and planets):
° his Mars opposite her Neptune (out of sign)


there are no real strong oppositions;


his Moon on the antiscion of her Mars
his Jupiter on the antiscion of her Venus

something I found interesting was that they both had a Venus-Pluto-aspect natally (his was the square, hers a tight sextile), and in synastry her Pluto was square his Venus(-uranus)tightly.

Nevertheless, maybe because of the missing birthtime, but it could have looked stronger (one reason I love the synastry so much, it is puzzling; it seems to be not as great as many others who never come together, so I think it coule be a great tool to find out WHAT it is specifically that makes a comparision "fly").

However, where it really comes together is the Draco-chart.


For example her (trop. Sun) on his Dr IC
her Saturn on his Dr MC still
her Pluto on his Dr Juno
her Juno on his Dr Moon


his ASC-NN on her Dr Venus-Chiron
his Moon on her Dr Saturn
his Moon opposte her Dr Sun


his Dr ASC on her Dr Venus-Chiron
his Dr Moon opp. her Dr Sun exact (on 11 Scorpio-Taurus!)
his Dr Venus conj. her Dr Mercury


just scratching the surface naturally

8they also had an exact Amor-Juno-conjunction int he Dracos, loosely connected to his relationship-axis

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posted May 13, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^

What is it about Amor-Juno conjunction that you know?

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posted May 13, 2014 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just remembered, it seemed to pop up quite often in pairings we used to suspect to be soulmates. Idonīt know much about it, except that it was obvious enough for me to to notice it.

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posted May 13, 2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I just remembered, it seemed to pop up quite often in pairings we used to suspect to be soulmates. Idonīt know much about it, except that it was obvious enough for me to to notice it.


because I have that both ways in my synastry - my Juno conj his Amor and his Juno conj my Valentine, both 0 degree conjunctions. His Juno aslo conj my Eros at 2 degrees.
Googled it just now but i could only find an old thread by you from 2008 basically stating that you often see that in synastries...
Kim Flaconer says that Juno and Eros are opoosites, while Juno wants commitment, Eros wants pleasure

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posted May 13, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem:
[B] I think Johnny and June would be a good one to look at as well.

I love these two, too bad about the ASC. Still, not your usual "classic" synastry.


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posted May 13, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
because I have that both ways in my synastry - his Juno conj my Amor and my Juno conj his Valentine, both 0 degree conjunctions. His Juno aslo conj my Eros at 2 degrees.
Googled it just now but i could only find an old thread by you from 2008 basically stating that you often see that in synastries...
Kim Flaconer says that Juno and Eros are opoosites, while Juno wants commitment, Eros wants pleasure


I donīt quite agree with that.
But actually I have always seen her emphasize that Eros wants TRANSFORMATIOn (pleasure might be a part of it, but is not the end-goal).

I could subscribe to that. Eros transforms (through passion).
Juno herself is also passionate, but she is passionate about commitment and making a working equal relationship, while Eros might not care about lastingness so much, as long as the soul is transformed.

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posted May 13, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw, Juno-Amor, and Juno-Valentine sounds just soo lovely, so LOVING.

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posted May 13, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Juno Eros is a committed erotic partnership, with the two of them exploring their erotic side and with sexual fidelity.

I also look for Juno Psyche and Juno Alma.

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posted May 13, 2014 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw, Juno-Amor, and Juno-Valentine sounds just soo lovely, so LOVING.


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I also look for Juno Psyche and Juno Alma.

My Alma conjuncts his Amor, too. 0 degree conjunction.
I have a natal tight Juno-Alma conjunction and his Amor is right on top of it.
Amor on Alma feels like heaven, ethereal.

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posted May 13, 2014 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
those are marvellous conjunctions.
I am almost envious.

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posted May 13, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great aspects, Orange!
Your natal Alma Juno already shows the possibility to reunite with your soulmate. Him right on top of it...it's a big deal!

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posted May 13, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, ladies

I didnt mentioned it before, but the brutal truth is that my Saturn is right in the midst of that beautiful mixture, too. My natal Juno/Alma also conjuncts my Saturn. It's a bit further, though, 3 degrees off. His Amor is on my saturn, too, 3 degrees away. GAH!

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posted May 13, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
well, ladies

I didnt mentioned it before, but the brutal truth is that my Saturn is right in the midst of that beautiful mixture, too. My natal Juno/Alma also conjuncts my Saturn. It's a bit further, though, 3 degrees off. His Amor is on my saturn, 3 degrees away. GAH!


It's OK...you're an old soul...he's an old love
But does it really show as a "wet blanket", to use a cliche?

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posted May 13, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's OK...you're an old soul...he's an old love
But does it really show as a "wet blanket", to use a cliche?

Not a wet blanket as of yet. We have Amor-Saturn conjunction going both ways in synastry, both conjunctions are 3 degrees orb, so not that close. It shows up in the Composite too - exact Amor/Saturn/Destinn conjunction in the 1st, trinning Venus at 0 degree.
He is a crush of mine and I absolutely adore him from head to toe. I can tell that he adores me the same way.

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posted May 13, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Not a wet blanket as of yet. We have Amor-Saturn conjunction going both ways in synastry, both conjunctions are 3 degrees orb, so not that close. It shows up in the Composite too - exact Amor/Saturn/Destinn conjunction in the 1st.
He is a crush of mine and I absolutely adore him from head to toe. I can tell that he adores me the same way.

Then it's the old soul old love thing

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posted May 13, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Then it's the old soul old love thing


I think so, too. My Pluto opposes his Venus at 0 degree, too.

Thanks, LL

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posted May 25, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for Interpersonal Astrology

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