posted April 02, 2014 09:12 AM            

Let's say someone has Yod in their chart but hasn't figured out its meaning yet (the Yod includes love planets so relationships are theme), what aspects in the synastry or composite would help this individual work out the Yod pattern?

posted April 03, 2014 12:32 PM            

The planets that really matter in a comparison are the Rulers of the Ascendant making an aspect to each other. If one of these planets happens to be involved in a yod then that's a little plus.

no sincere astro question is silly

posted April 03, 2014 12:44 PM            

Charles and Diana had one too, because Charles has an Yod and I think it projects into his composite with Camilla too.

Especially if the Yod involves love planets, a love meeting could be very significant for triggering the Yod.

posted April 03, 2014 02:34 PM            

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If the two Rulers don't aspect each other but one's Chart Ruler conjunct the other's Ascendant is still very significant, I guess. I don't know which of the two is more felt, though.

@Leeloo
for that article. I read that William and Kate have a Yod in their composite too. The Yod in composite is so powerful.

I myself don't have Yod in my chart but my bf does: Venus(7th Ruler)-Moon(9th Ruler)-Uranus(4th Ruler) with Moon at the apex. In the Davison we have a Mystic Rectangle but no Yod in composite or synastry and that's why I have these questions, seems there's not enough compelling force for him to work that out with me. About the release point, it got interesting. Natally I have Saturn conjunct Uranus quincunx Jupiter. And in synastry, my Saturn/Uranus oppose his Moon, my Jupiter complete a Kite in his chart with his Venus-Uranus(apex)-Mars. The Saturn opposite Moon is the tightest aspect in our synastry too! IQ said the exact opposite point of our Saturn is where we release karma. Seems like we are each other's release point .

posted April 03, 2014 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
[b]@lalalinda: Thank you, especially for this
If the two Rulers don't aspect each other but one's Chart Ruler conjunct the other's Ascendant is still very significant, I guess. I don't know which of the two is more felt, though.

@Leeloo
for that article. I read that William and Kate have a Yod in their composite too. The Yod in composite is so powerful.

I myself don't have Yod in my chart but my bf does: Venus(7th Ruler)-Moon(9th Ruler)-Uranus(4th Ruler) with Moon at the apex. In the Davison we have a Mystic Rectangle but no Yod in composite or synastry and that's why I have these questions, seems there's not enough compelling force for him to work that out with me. About the release point, it got interesting. Natally I have Saturn conjunct Uranus quincunx Jupiter. And in synastry, my Saturn/Uranus oppose his Moon, my Jupiter complete a Kite in his chart with his Venus-Uranus(apex)-Mars. The Saturn opposite Moon is the tightest aspect in our synastry too! IQ said the exact opposite point of our Saturn is where we release karma. Seems like we are each other's release point .

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What an interesting configuration!

posted April 03, 2014 06:39 PM            

His Moon is at 1 Cancer 28' in his 8th, my Saturn is at 2 Cap 1' in my 8th, my Saturn falls in his 2nd, his Moon falls my 2nd according to the Placidus system. And think about the degree it got weirder, my Jupiter is at 29 Taurus 56' opposite his Uranus at 1 Sag 34' in the Kite pattern.
You make me think of the Sabian symbol, must check it, don't know why I haven't thought about this before.

posted April 03, 2014 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes my Saturn is on his release point. He has Cancer Moon in 8th quincunx Sag Uranus in 1st and Aqua Venus in 3rd. If the Moon points to a woman, it could be his mother. He has huge respect for her, they talk on the phone everyday.

His Moon is at 1 Cancer 28' in his 8th, my Saturn is at 2 Cap 1' in my 8th, my Saturn falls in his 2nd, his Moon falls my 2nd according to the Placidus system. And think about the degree it got weirder, my Jupiter is at 29 Taurus 56' opposite his Uranus at 1 Sag 34' in the Kite pattern.
You make me think of the Sabian symbol, must check it, don't know why I haven't thought about this before.

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posted April 03, 2014 07:23 PM            

Do you think the Sabian symbol of his Moon points to an event?

posted April 03, 2014 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I just check and the Sabian symbol for
- my Saturn: A Human Soul, In Its Eagerness For New Experiences, Seeks Embodiment
- his Moon: A Man On A Magic Carpet Hovers Over A Large Area Of Land

Do you think the Sabian symbol of his Moon points to an event?

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Yes. A very emotional event or a woman. It could be you

Very interesting configuration and Sabians, with that Saturn of yours. Moon opposite Saturn is also an archetype in the Zodiac (Cancer-Capricorn axis). But I have to think more about this Yod combined with your planets, it seems very karmic, very important. I'll get back to you.

posted April 04, 2014 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Thank you Leeloo, I'm about to give up on this relationship, too much Uranus and it takes its toll. I read your 11th harmonic thread and took some comfort from the fact that 11th/Uranus/Aquarius in composite can still represent a deep soul connection. Can't wait to hear your take on this Yod .

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I am sorry to hear that, Tulipe You have a great FM chart!
I am very interested in Yods, I have one myself, and it projects into a composite.

Theoretically, the Yod involves a transformation related to a specific goal/mission in this life.
It is triggered in the apex by: a transit/progressed planet which could be:
1. an event
2. a person
3. a specific moment in time (the Yod is very saturnian in nature, there is a destined, written-in-the stars moment for its release, it can't be triggered before or after that moment - hence Finger of God, the fated one).

Maybe in his case, apart from the apex related to a female, it could also mean awakening the female archetype within himself, thus some sort of emotional maturity. With your Saturn, you could certainly bring that, considering Moon/Saturn archetype too.
But I guess it all relates to YOUR Saturn in your natal, what your Saturn means for you (and to his saturnian energies as well).

As we all know, Saturn could be: karma, time (a specific time, things developing in time), grounding, teacher but also limit, restriction, interdiction, even blockage.

However, since your Saturn is there and your karmic release on his Yod, yours is by all means a significant relationship at least for you.

posted April 04, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Maybe in his case, apart from the apex related to a female, it could also mean awakening the female archetype within himself, thus some sort of emotional maturity.

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I think it's emotional maturity. He has intimacy issues. Everytime we'd get so close, he'd share his feelings, then he'd run like the devil is at his feet, blocking all contacts. Feels like I hijacked his Yod or something. I don't think the Yod could point to me, he hasn't awaken to its purpose yet. However, he did quick touring and smoking, start a more stable life. But I must have to accept I'm not in it for the long run.

This is our synastry, not many aspects so I hesitate to say it's significant. I'm on the inside. I just added some love asteroids, and thank you Leeloo for taking time looking.

posted April 04, 2014 06:02 PM            

Your Moon, Mars, Venus and your Pluto on DSC not directly aspected. You would grow cold sooner or later. His 12th house stellium, which is important in relationships for him, again, not aspected.

But there are compelling aspects, it seems like a very erotic relationship: mutual Mars in 5th, the 2nd/ 8th house overlay, his Eros on your ASC, your Venus Pluto on his ASC (very compelling, you like his body, his looks), his Venus on your MC. Like a glue, an erotic fascination that makes it hard for you two to break up.

posted April 05, 2014 04:14 AM            

IN all cases, your role is related to this powerful conjunction under which you are born - Saturn/Uranus. Here is a good explanation for it:

During the twentieth century, the conjunction aspect was made during 1942 and in 1988. It offers the possibility of an effective balance between these two antagonistic planets. Apart from those born under this aspect, the energy released into the collective mind at these times can aid in the interplay between forces of order and chaos, conceivably bringing the opposites into equilibrium and allowing a space for something new to be born. For the individual with this aspect, there should be the ability to fuse ideas with practical application, to ground and anchor those sometimes slightly intangible and ephemeral Uranian ideas, thus transferring the, from the level of mind into material existence. You should be able to take advantage of your personal resources and talents; and these can be effectively expressed through efficient organization. The flow of Uranian energy should seem more consistent and reliable; and you will be able to apply persistence and focused will to achieve your objectives. Often, you will find enjoyment from becoming involved in situations where you can create order from chaos. Whilst this may appear Saturnian in nature, Uranus is not chaotic for the sake of it, but is only disruptive in order to create the conditions for a higher order to be superimposed. You can function in a 'bridging role', carefully restoring a balance between order and change, and re-integrating this into a new structure which is an improvement on the previous one. In modern life, where so many changes are occurring so quickly, such a role can be most important, and utilizes both of these planetary characteristics in a positive way. You have a sympathetic understanding of the past, and of the values and attitudes of conservative stability, yet also intuit and appreciate the necessity of change and evolving of social structures, organizations and individual development. You will try to integrate these threads, uniting what is worth retaining from the past with the ideas of the next step forward. Doing this, you work with both your intellect and intuitional faculties, and so reflect the next stage in human development towards the consciousness of unity. You are likely to prefer a form of expression that involves a social contribution over and above mere participation in society; you would like to feel that you have some influence in improving things, and that your preoccupation is not totally for personal gain. This need can often give you a sense of direction in your life, and one which can absorb both of these planetary energies. If you begin to feel that you are having to keep down inner pressures of certain kinds, perhaps through a lack of channels to release them into, then it is a likely sign that you are not fluently expressing both the energies. Look at your life pattern and see which one is being repressed. In most cases, this would be the Uranus energy, as the Saturn energy, which is one of order and discipline, is often expressed through social conditioning. To free this blocked energy, more spontaneity, more experimentation, and exploration of new interests, would help. These would stimulate needed changes to happen, and so break down any fixed lifestyle patterns that are becoming inhibiting. If the Saturn energy is repressed, more self-discipline, commitment and perseverance to achieving your objectives would help. If the lifestyle lacks control, too much freedom could also lead to a loss of personal centre and stability, leaving you feeling lost and unsure of what to do or in which direction to travel. You will need to draw through the Saturn qualities of boundary-making and structure, so that your life and inner nature begin to take distinct form again, creating a stable foundation from which to work.

posted April 05, 2014 05:11 AM            

I see that it all comes down to what Saturn in my chart means to me. 'I'll be there for him when he needs me', I've always thought like since I met him. And the Chiron-Moon goes both ways. He has awaken my childhood issues that I thought I have made peace with but apparently I'm not. He said I make him feel whole again, since his brother passed away in an accident, he felt like a part of him is missing. I'm on my path to healing now, trusting that both of us'll be greater after all the trials. Do you think the Yod could make he run from intimacy?

posted April 05, 2014 05:59 AM            

I'm not sure about that Moon being a man.

posted April 05, 2014 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I undertand what you mean, wishful thinking on my part. Thank you Leeloo, your words brought wisdom and I can see clearer now. I'll delve deeper into those 12th planets of his to understand him better.

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