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Topic: An observation about Venus-Mars harsh aspects in natal is it true for you?
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meyray
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posted April 05, 2014 03:10 PM
  
I dont know if this will relate to men but if youre a woman with a Venus-Mars square or opposition does this happen to you?Facing hostility and opposition from men when perusing a love interest? To elaborate especially men connected to your love interest like his friends or acquaintances or men coming out of your circle. It doesnt have to be explicit opposition, in fact I would say its internal - you dislike them and/or vice versa and it feels like one or both parties is trying to undermine the whole situation. From personal experience, as much as it makes me feel like a bad person I have to say that in most cases I have disliked my love interests friends. In some cases it was mutual and very outwardly hostile (especially coming from their side) other times they just rub me the wrong way. I have another example for this but it might come off as a bit weird. One of my hobbies is engaging in fandoms and basking in the whole world of fanfiction and fan art. Even there, when it comes to love (between favorite characters and etc.) there is always a guy getting in between them. Even though its not specifically me, when I have favorite characters I suppose I tend to project on them. This little instance made me realize that this rings true for my own life as well. Can anyone relate to this?
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Kerosene
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posted April 05, 2014 03:25 PM
I relate to that I have venus semi square Mars.
I believe in separating friends and lovers unless you share mutual friends. I think it's because I don't trust my friends... LOL
NO SHENANIGANS also who do you ship?
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meyray
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posted April 05, 2014 03:51 PM
Kerosene,
Yes! Come to think of it I like the idea of that principle. For some reason Ive always felt selfish when I try to do it. One time it ended up giving me the label evil witch who tried to destroy the graceful male friendship just because I wanted my crush and I to do go out alone and not always in a group with his friends. But I guess that was teenage melodrama since we were like 14 or something. That was my first encounter with this opposition. The crushs best friend really had it out for me but we had some bad blood between us.Haha, oh man, the ships are so many. In every case the slash/yaoi ship was always more popular than mine. Sometimes it even happened when I was crushing on a character. When I was around 11 I used to watch a cartoon called Xioalin Showdown and my first favorite character was Chase Young. Everyone and their mom shipped him with Jack Spicer and being so young I had no idea what yaoi or slash was and this really confused me. Death Note I really wanted Misa to be a more central and intelligent character but she ended up being secondary. I really dug her relationship with Light but again Light/L conquered all (even slightly in the anime too) Hetalia The anime with the personificated countries. Was obsessed with Russia/Belarus but Russia was too busy being shipped with literally everyone except her (mostly with guys) Naruto I said SasuSaku, the world said SasuNaru Avatar: The Last Airbender For me it was Katara/Aang but Katara/Zuko dominated the fandom. Theres probably more but these are off the top of my head. I wouldnt want to hijack my own thread, haha.
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Kerosene
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posted April 05, 2014 03:57 PM
Yeah being in a relationship you become like this weird unit.Maybe it's best to make friends together and dare I sound too corny, friends with other couples.. LMFAO nahh I'm polite but I honestly don't care about your couple issues.. Honestly I don't always follow that logic. I love my space and I want to hang out with my friends and you should do the same..
Cause sometimes we don't behave like ourselves in lovw and we just need to be real for a couple of hours with friends
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meyray
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posted April 05, 2014 05:25 PM
Haha, understandable.Still moving back to astrology I do think Venus-Mars would create that sort of dare I say "competitive" attitude. Especially with the harder aspects it would make a person have a me-first attitude which would explain why they would feel irritation when they have to share or feel marginalized. I'd really like to hear from more women on this specific example. The funny thing is that even if the antagonism feels external, like most things the issue is always in your own head. IP: Logged |
themischievousone
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posted April 06, 2014 02:43 PM
I have mars (capricorn) square venus (libra). I don't really have issues with my bfs friends (I think that's what you mean?). I only speak with them when my bf is around. We actually get along really well and all have the same interests. However there is one that will make really weird comments, almost like he is competing with my bf like "I make her laugh more" or comments that go a tad too far. I've been kinda isolated lately so I haven't been hanging out with my friends or fam to have this be an issue going the other way.
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LoadedPistil
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posted April 06, 2014 06:23 PM
I have Mars Square Venus. Only one of my mate's friends I couldn't stand. His best friend was a full-blown idiot, BUT he was a good friend to him, so not my business. I couldn't stand any of his friends, but I didn't get in the way of their friendship. Not my business. But HIS friend got in the way of our relationship. He got hurt in the end, so, oh well!  Go cry to your friend. One guy I was seeing never seriously had a 100 friends. I got along with all of them. Another guy. All cool. Nope. Not a recurring problem. He just had a lot of low-class, unethical, hygienically dirty friends. ------------------
Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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Odette
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posted April 06, 2014 06:53 PM
The main thing I notice with Venus square Mars (in both men and women) is that they lack understanding for the opposite sex. They focus a lot on negative things, usually things they hear in the media or from friends/family etc.. and they develop a twisted version of what the opposite sex is like. This happens when they are young (teens, 20s) and they continue on into adulthood with these erroneous, mostly negative perspectives.
They have a pretty aggressive relationship with the opposite sex as well.. If a person expresses attraction/affection towards them.. the V/M person reacts in an aggressive way. eg: "I like you"
"No you don't!" or "I like you"
"pfft boys have cooties" Their behaviour is a lot like kids behave before they come to terms with their sexuality. Maybe it just takes them longer to accept sexual dynamics for what they are.. and accept themselves as well as the opposite sex - rather than try to make the world spin backwards. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted April 06, 2014 06:59 PM
Yeah I don't know how much I like the opposite sex in relationships....
I mean Sun or Moon aspecting Mars or Uranus is a must.
The conjunction is ideal!IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted April 06, 2014 07:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
The main thing I notice with Venus square Mars (in both men and women) is that they lack understanding for the opposite sex. They focus a lot on negative things, usually things they hear in the media or from friends/family etc.. and they develop a twisted version of what the opposite sex is like. This happens when they are young (teens, 20s) and they continue on into adulthood with these erroneous, mostly negative perspectives.
They have a pretty aggressive relationship with the opposite sex as well.. If a person expresses attraction/affection towards them.. the V/M person reacts in an aggressive way. eg: "I like you"
"No you don't!" or "I like you"
"pfft boys have cooties" Their behaviour is a lot like kids behave before they come to terms with their sexuality. Maybe it just takes them longer to accept sexual dynamics for what they are.. and accept themselves as well as the opposite sex - rather than try to make the world spin backwards.
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Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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ash20
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posted April 06, 2014 07:12 PM
I have venus square mars and I kinda agree with this. The 1st time it happened to me I was in elementary school and my bfs friend told a lie on me so he would break up with me. Even now I always think my bfs friends (m/f) try to turn them against me. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 06, 2014 07:35 PM
I am a man and have mars square venus and I hate idea of my girl having male friends.. I just want the other guys to f*ck off and find their own woman.IP: Logged |
moonram
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posted April 07, 2014 10:32 AM
I have Venus square Mars natally.My husband's friends seem to like me, but I have always had a "me-first" attitude and tend to get irritated when he spends day after day with them. IP: Logged |
moonram
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posted April 07, 2014 10:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
The main thing I notice with Venus square Mars (in both men and women) is that they lack understanding for the opposite sex. They focus a lot on negative things, usually things they hear in the media or from friends/family etc.. and they develop a twisted version of what the opposite sex is like. This happens when they are young (teens, 20s) and they continue on into adulthood with these erroneous, mostly negative perspectives.
They have a pretty aggressive relationship with the opposite sex as well.. If a person expresses attraction/affection towards them.. the V/M person reacts in an aggressive way. eg: "I like you"
"No you don't!" or "I like you"
"pfft boys have cooties" Their behaviour is a lot like kids behave before they come to terms with their sexuality. Maybe it just takes them longer to accept sexual dynamics for what they are.. and accept themselves as well as the opposite sex - rather than try to make the world spin backwards.
Oh, wow. Very, very true for me. Men are guilty until proven innocent. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted April 07, 2014 10:43 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with Venus-Mars harsh aspects because I can relate 100% to this post and I don't have that aspect. Now it could be ONE of the aspects that triggers situations that bring hostility, but I don't think it's the main one. I believe my mars in my 7th house is a definite factor as well as my mars opposite Ascendant. I also have mars conjunct Pluto so I attract opposition and hostility just about everywhere I go. My mars is also in Sagittarius and so it's in its natural element. It doesn't help that I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto in Scorpio either and when you add that to a stubborn Taurus ascendant?... sheesh.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted April 07, 2014 12:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
The main thing I notice with Venus square Mars (in both men and women) is that they lack understanding for the opposite sex. They focus a lot on negative things, usually things they hear in the media or from friends/family etc.. and they develop a twisted version of what the opposite sex is like. This happens when they are young (teens, 20s) and they continue on into adulthood with these erroneous, mostly negative perspectives.
They have a pretty aggressive relationship with the opposite sex as well.. If a person expresses attraction/affection towards them.. the V/M person reacts in an aggressive way. eg: "I like you"
"No you don't!" or "I like you"
"pfft boys have cooties" Their behaviour is a lot like kids behave before they come to terms with their sexuality. Maybe it just takes them longer to accept sexual dynamics for what they are.. and accept themselves as well as the opposite sex - rather than try to make the world spin backwards.
I disagree. I have venus square mars and I never learned to have negative views on women from anyone and you really wont see anything negative about women in the media. If anything I had an unrealistically positive view of women until i started having tons of negative experiences.
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freebrainstorms
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posted April 07, 2014 01:30 PM
I like my crush's best friends so much that I've had a crush on every single one of them - all four of them hahaha.IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted April 08, 2014 09:34 PM
I believe this may have something to do with Sun sq Asc.The problem you will have to resolve is that if you pursue what you want in life, you may not be able to get along with others. Others may seem to resist your every effort, so that to get ahead you have to cut yourself off from relationships... --Robert Hand IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 08, 2014 09:39 PM
AG - Yours is out of sign. Aquarius and Gemini are trine signs.. so I'm not sure how it would play out for you.
It wouldn't be like a classic square though. IP: Logged |
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