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Topic: Venus/Saturn and stalkers?
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NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 740
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 09, 2014 04:01 AM
  
Do you think this aspect could cause stalkers to become attracted to you? Since love with these aspects requires work, people could become "addicted" to this work that is required from Saturn, and possibly frustrated in finding out what makes the victim tick/like. I'm a Venus conjunct Saturn, and I attract men who don't interest me, but they are still persistent in persuing. Unlike Venus/Neptune where the stalker sees what they want to see, the stalker feels a magnetic glue attachment with saturn, because love requires work and time. I know this aspect is frustrating for me natally, I want something long lasting and authentic, where as most people my age just jump into relationships without thinking. I'm an aqua Venus too, so I just want to be myself and keep things cool. I might attribute some instances of stalking though to mars opposite Neptune, men don't see me clearly and act from what they want to see, it's really annoying. Just a theory, what do you think? IP: Logged |
visions
Knowflake Posts: 136
From: france
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 09, 2014 04:32 AM
yeah stalkers commes more from you mars-neptune opposition though i will identify stalkers more with a sun-pluto aspect or mars-pluto for a women.But stalkers means someone hiding and wanting to pursue you, looking at you, harassing in a secret way. So it relates to mars-neptune thing. Venus saturn is not the culprit since it's the opposite of attracting stalker, venus-saturn just help to defend yourself against shallow Relationship, fake love etc...it's more protective actually than anything. i am a man i have mars square netpune and mars trine jupiter in the 11th and venus in opposition to saturn. WHen a friendship ending, the firends then behave like stalker wanting to know what i do, where i am etc...in order to criticize me. Since my neptune rule my 7th pisces i attract a lot of women who are addictive, hysteric, neurotic etc...and i can't bear that kind of girl anymore. They probably see me not as i really am actually because i have a strong authoritary allure with saturn in the first so all women whom father is absent always fall in love with me then they deny me in order to take revenge of their father and i feel left miserable... life is cool. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 595
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 09, 2014 03:17 PM
^ ahahahahahaha I have mars opp Neptune and I have a serious issue with stalkers. IP: Logged |
Emily033
Knowflake Posts: 66
From: marysville, ca
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 09, 2014 11:24 PM
IME Saturn-Venus can come off as "playing hard to get" but most of the time they're genuinely not interested. The obvious lack of interest in itself can be seen as a challenge and may fire up some stalker types IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 09, 2014 11:27 PM
I have mars-neptune and Mars-Pluto..Honestly i wouldn't stalk me I look icy and mean.
Only nice sweet girls get stalked just glare at people.
Its like some people are asking to get stalked stop being so weak. I do agree that people project their fantasies on me..
but idk it's kinda cool... like yeah me just doing whatever is just blowing your mind? Lol cool.. heh IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 10, 2014 12:41 AM
I agree just look at people with death in your eyes and they won't stalk you. Can't look like a soft target. My Venus/ Saturn squares helps me with that.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 10, 2014 01:03 AM
I have the conjunction. I was stalked once, by a weird Aqua girl who thought I was her soulmate rofl. She also used to ask me all the time to like her pics and status in FB, smh, that was more annoying than being stalked.IP: Logged |
Moonfish
Moderator Posts: 4413
From: Tropical Ocean
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 10, 2014 01:29 AM
It's funny Mars-Neptune was mentioned because I have a friend who's obsessed with my cousin. (Her Mars squares his Neptune exact) and he also has Venus conjunct Saturn in his own chart. He's all she talks, thinks, and breaths about. Our conversations are revolved around him. A few days ago he told me my friend sent him multiple msgs on Facebook, and as many times as he told her to leave him alone she just can't seem to get the hint! At first I thought her crush on him was funny but after I heard that I'm disturbed to be honest.
I've never seen this side of her, and frankly I think it's going to lead to the end of our friendship.IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 595
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 10, 2014 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have mars-neptune and Mars-Pluto..Honestly i wouldn't stalk me I look icy and mean.
Only nice sweet girls get stalked just glare at people.
Its like some people are asking to get stalked stop being so weak. I do agree that people project their fantasies on me..
but idk it's kinda cool... like yeah me just doing whatever is just blowing your mind? Lol cool.. heh
Wow, being weak and what you're describing (meek), is not always the reason people get stalked. Im pretty straight up and blunt with people. To the point of saying " Fu** off not interested" and it still happens. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 595
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 10, 2014 01:38 AM
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Moonfish
Moderator Posts: 4413
From: Tropical Ocean
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 10, 2014 01:47 AM
^ I agreeIP: Logged |
babybull82
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 10, 2014 11:10 PM
Wait are we talking about natal aspects or synastry? I have Mars sq Neptune natally and I pretty much have this aspect with anybody born in the same decade as me and I don't think I've ever been "stalked", and if I have been they've been pretty stealthy about it lol Maybe becaue I have Uranus & Neptune in my 4th house I'm pretty much in my own little dream world and don't pay people any attention anyway. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 10, 2014 11:22 PM
I don't think nattily… and if you're speaking of addiction that's not very "Saturn." Pluto or Neptune as some have already mentioned, but Saturn would just add stability or consistency. Duty, if you will. I think there needs to be a strong Neptune or Pluto aspect first and then Saturn comes second.IP: Logged |
babybull82
Knowflake Posts: 194
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 11, 2014 02:04 AM
Ok well in that case most of the guys I've dated or talk to or been friends with, we have mars sq neptune in synastry & I don't believe they've stalked me. Perhaps maybe fb stalk? But no hiding in the bushes or blowing up my phone craziness. Ppl don't get that attached to me I don't think lolIP: Logged |
Krista_Kay_1993
Knowflake Posts: 119
From: St. Paul, Mn, USA
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted April 11, 2014 02:14 AM
". Unlike Venus/Neptune where the stalker sees what they want to see"who would the stalker be? the venus/neptune person or the latter IP: Logged |
Odette
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Registered: May 2012
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posted April 11, 2014 05:06 AM
I have Mars conj Neptune but I don't think I've had an unusual amount of male stalkers.
The main one was 24 when I was 17. He was engaged. I told him I wasn't interested and he started sending me crazy messages, calling me every day and threatening me.
Other than that I've had a bunch of guys who were intense in pursuing me, although I wouldn't call it stalking. Its pretty common for guys to pursue. There are fewer people in the world who rebel against gender stereotypes than there are people who go with the grain. It's not unusual to see a guy pursuing a girl and for him to not take 'no' for an answer (at least not right away).I did have one other creepy experience though, more recently. This guy didn't stalk me per se.. but he kept threatening to stalk me, telling me he would follow me around in his car and kidnap me. It was just weird. We used to study together. He's intelligent, pretty funny and he seems completely normal before you get to know him. Things just got creepier and creepier. He messaged me multiple times per day, and if I didn't reply he'd start calling mutual friends or my family asking them if I am ok. Then he'd message me on FB asking me why Im not replying to his incessant sms-es *facepalm*
I didn't feel scared.. just extremely annoyed. I'm so glad to be rid of him. IP: Logged |
babybull82
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted April 11, 2014 08:07 AM
Ok you know what..after reading the last post...I have had guys with stalker like tendencies contact me. I thought we were talking about guys we knew personally or exes. I have a profile on a dating website & it's not to uncommon for a few guys to message me multiple times even despite me not responding. I had one guy follow me from one site to another at least 3x. And I can relate to a guy perusing me relentlessly, but of course once the mystique is gone they move on to something else lol. IP: Logged |
Jo B
Knowflake Posts: 532
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 11, 2014 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Krista_Kay_1993:
". Unlike Venus/Neptune where the stalker sees what they want to see"who would the stalker be? the venus/neptune person or the latter
Possibly both. I have Venus square Neptune and there were a couple of occasions in my teenage youth when I met or vaguely knew someone I was attracted to and then hung around near to where they lived! I don't think I was even hoping to see them, just sort of stalked their territory! lmao. It was just an ideal I was attracted to, they were probably very different to how I'd imagined them. I've also had a few guys know me vaguely (seen me and then asked around about me) and then just get hold of my number and contact me out of the blue. I don't think that's stalking really, I guess they were just being bold. But I think in those cases too they had idealised me to be something I'm not. I think Venus/Neptune square is more about having a romantic illusion about another person and is fairly harmless really, although a bit of a waste of time!
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StrandedSaturn
Knowflake Posts: 91
From: Death Valley, CA
Registered: Dec 2013
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posted April 11, 2014 08:43 PM
In my opinion, it's partly their fault. They aren't very blunt, and they play hard to get. They ARE hard to get into a relationship with, it doesn't matter if they like the person or not they are almost impossible to get close to. This is bound to drive some up the wall.IP: Logged |
IV XXIV
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Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 17, 2014 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I agree just look at people with death in your eyes and they won't stalk you. Can't look like a soft target. My Venus/ Saturn squares helps me with that.
lmao "look at people with death in your eyes"
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starlitroad
Knowflake Posts: 213
From: romania,Ns
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 06, 2014 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Possibly both.I have Venus square Neptune and there were a couple of occasions in my teenage youth when I met or vaguely knew someone I was attracted to and then hung around near to where they lived! I don't think I was even hoping to see them, just sort of stalked their territory! lmao. It was just an ideal I was attracted to, they were probably very different to how I'd imagined them. I think Venus/Neptune square is more about having a romantic illusion about another person and is fairly harmless really, although a bit of a waste of time!
I giggled at this because I was chit-chatting with my mother,she has venus square neptune, and told me a boy liked her back in youth than he'd vanished..and she went to his surroundings ,waited around a bit, and even pushed a letter under his door to ask what happend..I thinks this aspect is not a hardcore one, it's rather cute,really^^IP: Logged |
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