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hannaramaa
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posted April 11, 2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the most part I use Placidus because that's what I started with and it's what I know. However, one sign doesn't completely cover the whole house. My question is if the majority of a sign covers the whole house but isn't technically ruled by it (ex: I have Sag DSC, but Capricorn rules the majority of my 7th house) can we read it as being ruled by that sign anyway?

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hannaramaa
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posted April 12, 2014 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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posted April 13, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have Sag DC, but Capricorn covers the rest of the house, your 7th house is still ruled by Jupiter.

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posted April 13, 2014 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course it's still technically ruled by Jupiter, but do you mean to day Capricorn doesn't configure into my 7th house dealings at all then? Seems hard to believe.

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posted April 14, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, unless you have planets there in Capricorn. But since the Cap part of your chart starts in the 7th house, look where your Saturn is as it will also have to do with your 7th house.

All the 12 signs have to be included in the chart anyway, eventhough they don't all have influence in your life. If you have empty houses, look for their ruling planets' positions - and when you have an empty sign, look at its ruling planet's position.

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posted April 16, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jessica2407
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posted April 16, 2014 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respectfully do not agree.

If the majority of the house falls in capricorn, the latter for me rules that house. If you use whole sign or equal sign system you would probably find capricorn ruling your 7th.

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posted April 16, 2014 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it does not.

All the 12 signs must be included also in the Placidus house system, and we all have all those 12 signs in our charts, but if there are no house cusps or planets in those signs, those signs don't basically have influence upon our lives - but we still have those areas (houses) in our lives. You must look for other astrological clues to understand those areas in your life such as the sign ruling the house cusp or the planet ruling the sign that covers the rest of the house.

Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here? What I mean is that eventhough a part of your house may be covered by Capricorn, IMO that sign has no meaning in your life, unless you have a cusp, axis or planet in that sign. That area of life needs to be explained by other factors in your chart, not that sign.

The difference is the word "covered", not "ruled", all the signs are included only technically, and signs don't rule, planets do.

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posted April 16, 2014 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said I disagree.

The meaning of the word ''cusps'is very important. The origin of the word means ''point'' as in point of something, however with the development of quadrant systems the word has gained another meaning. It came to mean ''the beginning'' then ''the border'' In whole sign the original meaning of the word 'cusps' was retained as the point of ascending degree being the sensitive point of the natal chart. The ascendant will then fall anywhere within the first house.

The house location of the natal planets is essential as is the sign ruling that house and is totally dependent on which house system you are using. Even if a house is devoid of planetary placement it doesn't lose its significance in the life of the person. There are more than one factors to be taken into consideration.

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posted April 16, 2014 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This article might be of considerable help to the OP.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6495552/An-Astrological-House-Formulary

''..use that house system which divides space in such a way that the planets fall into houses which describe their function in the nature of the event; and, use that house system which gives cusps against which you can time events. That is, if the Moon function of this event is described well by a Moon in the eighth house, then the house system you choose should not place the Moon in the seventh or ninth, or some house other than the eighth house...''

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SunMoonStars
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posted April 22, 2014 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunMoonStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are talking about Placidus here.

"There are more than one factor to be taken into consideration" - that is ALWAYS true about anything in astrology.

But we could not talk about anything if we did not simplify or generalize a bit. In this case, Capricorn does not rule the house, but the sign on the cusp, i.e. Sagittarius does.

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