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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 12, 2014 07:46 AM I recently read about the 9th harmonic chart. It’s a snap shot of the soul, it points to where my soul will evolve. In my natal chart the nodal axis is very active so I thought the 9th harmonic chart will show me where I go. I draw a 9th harmonic chart for me and found two Yod with apexes interchanged and one Grand Cross. Uranus figure in both Yod and Grand Cross is also at his place in my natal chart at 29 Sag. With those configurations, I gather I have a bumpy road ahead but I’m confused about how to read them. The 9th harmonic don’t have the same house system as my natal, how do I interpret these Yods and Grand Cross? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 13, 2014 04:19 PM bump IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 13, 2014 04:25 PM Ahh...the Yod girl is here! You seem to bump into Yods everywhere you go, Tulipe IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 13, 2014 04:33 PM it's really interesting, isn't it? And I'm really curious about your Yods both in natal and composite. Have you mastered the one in your birth chart yet? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 13, 2014 04:42 PM I'm about to, I think My Yod's apex is Jupiter/Pholus, so it's not entirely up to me, the moment of its triggering. The sextile is Moon-Mercury, so, in the meantime, I work on these The release point is my Sun/Venus midpoint, where Aphrodite lies. I think with Yods, the interpretation is not complicated. The Apex is the event (which could be a person or transit) triggering the Yod. The sextile is the energy you need to already have mastered, the helpful energy. The release point is the achievement per se, the result. In the 9th harmonic, I would first look at the MC. This is the higher evolution of your soul in this life. The ASC, perhaps, and the aspects, show how you achieve it. Two Yods point to two major events or situation and if linked, maybe a chain of events?? See if they are linked. Interpret them one by one or together and see how they connect with the MC. What is your Cross? IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 13, 2014 04:47 PM Remember that the Yods are not entirely in our hands, their triggering is an act of fate (the Finger of God). We can only prepare for it by working on the sextile, I think. For me, a quincunx is a Uranian-type energy showing an abrupt move, a surprise. Probably in the Yod, the two quincunxes show how the sextile is simultaneously activated in its two points, when the apex is triggered. The only place where we have freedom of action, where we can prepare for the Yod, is the sextile. IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 13, 2014 05:26 PM Oh oh, I like this, your Yod seems point to the balance of masculine and feminine energy to me. Again, it points to relationships, I guess. I think in this case, an event will trigger your Yod. With Aphrodite at the midpoint of Sun/Venus and opposite the Apex, already you have a boomerang Yod and I read that it's tougher. Have you found something relating to the Yod in your composite Leeloo? The houses, the planets? You'd look to the MC in 9th harmonic first? The MC in 9th harmonic chart is conjunct my DSC and Pluto exact while the ASC don't make any conjunction or opposition to my natal. I suppose in my case the MC is more revealing. The two Yods without houses made me confused, but perhaps I should look to the planets that conjunct those Yods in my birth chart for more clues? The two Yods have Mars and Pluto at the Apex, talk about higher octave. In my birth chart I have Jupiter and Uranus, perhaps Saturn too that activates these two Yods. Jupiter conjunct Mars the Apex, but that's all. Do you think these planets in my birth chart will show me where I need to cultivate or they show what I have already mastered? The Grand Cross involve Sun/Mercury, Moon, Venus and Uranus. Venus conjunct North Node. Honestly the Cross scare me more than those Yods. MC although is linked to my natal chart, doesn't make any aspect to those configurations. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 13, 2014 05:44 PM Thanks Leeloo, reading your answer gives me an idea. If the Yod is meant to be actualized in this life, with time and lessons, then it'd have Saturn flare along with that electrify Uranus sizzle. Constantly expect the unexpected? Uranus just seems cruel to me. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 13, 2014 05:56 PM I'll think about your aspects tomorrow, I'm going to sleep You said I inspire you, but I wanna tell you you inspire me too, your connections and ideas are very fresh and original. My Yod is wonderfully projected in that composite, because Jupiter/Pholus is the same there and exactly conjunct composite IC, so the release point is the MC of the relationship. The sextile involves the Moon too, but this time with Mars and Pluto, so because all of that and the fact that the relationship is with a man - a Plutonian one (Pluto on ASC) (Mars- the man), I am positive this relationship is connected with the release of my Yod It's the first time my Yod is projected in a composite, so maybe it's time for my Yod to take wings Bonne nuit! IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 13, 2014 06:58 PM Aww, you push me to cloud nine, and also remind me to be more confident in my ideas. It'd mean more questions to come, so you'll see me post more threads . I'm glad Yod-reckoning time has come for you with this relationship. How come the Jupiter/Pholus is still there at the Apex, and Moon sextile Mars/Pluto is so much better, it's too much to be a coincidence!! It amazed me. The fact that it involves Moon-Mars and is on the Moon/Saturn axis just confirmed the Yin-Yang energy that I think of. How cool is that, and how fitting. So the Pluto man doesn't stand a chance after all . It'd be quite a journey, especially with Mars-Pluto the partners in crime there. I have very good feeling about this Yod. I'm off to bed too. Bonne nuit Leeloo. P/S: I forgot to add that Moon in the Cross also plays a part in a Yod. So the Yods contain Moon, MARS, PLUTO, Uranus while the Cross has Moon, Uranus, Venus/North Node and Sun/Mercury. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 14, 2014 06:03 AM "So the Pluto man doesn't stand a chance after all" I'll make sure he doesn't Nobody messes with my Yod for nothing. Regarding your 9th harmonics placements, Tulipe, since there are so many planets involved and since I'm such a visual person, I'd prefer you put it here for me take a look. You can delete it afterwords. It sounds like a very interesting 9th chart. And yes, I think it's a very good idea to compare it with natal, to see what natal planets trigger the 9th harmonics. IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 06:11 AM I was thinking about you when I see this. I'll get back with the chart in a few minutes. I'm reading the Star Seed posts of Ceridwen and playing with my chart a bit . I'm still don't know how to interpret the planets in 9th harmonic that conjunct planets in my chart. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 06:32 AM Just realized that I should post a reply and not edit that. Do you think the orbs are wide for a Grand Cross? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 14, 2014 06:58 AM I can't see the posts They are invisible! IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 07:04 AM quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I can't see the posts They are invisible! Have you tried reloading the page? My soul path is well and truly hidden, lol ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 14, 2014 07:09 AM This is a very cool 9th harmonics. I can finally see the posts. I'll think about it and get back to you. IP: Logged
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 643 From: Registered: Mar 2014	posted April 14, 2014 09:23 AM I'll tell you what I see, it's just an insight, of course. It's a very beautiful chart, BTW. Those Yods are not just yods, they are interconnected in some sort of trapeze, linked to the Grand Cross by Moon/Uranus. Very nice stellium with MC Aura and Spirit in Scorpiom MC ruler, Pluto, nearby, in his domicile. We are talking about major transformation, rebirth, Phoenix like experiences in this life, which I think, are emphasized by the Yods. So, we are talking about two interlinked events, or phases, or major crises. It could be two people playing a major role in your life, but because of all those Aries planets, I think we are talking about two phases, triggering two major crises that will lead to the evolution of your soul. So it's more like a chain of events or two different, major stages. I think the first Yod to be triggered is Pluto apex.It leads to your ASC as release point; it's not exact, but it doesn't matter, obviously a transit on Pluto will trigger the ASC. ASC in Aries, Moon in Aries point connected with Mars in a critical point: a surge of independence, breaking free, becoming independent, pushing forward, like a rebirth, triggered by that Pluto in Scorpio event. The activation of this Yod leads to the second one, after some time, through activation of Mars (you as a warrior princess), again connected with Pluto and Uranus this time: Uranus/Pluto - huge, major transformation - release point in 29 Scorpio - I'd say some sort of endings will play a major role in this journey of your soul. The Grand Cross is the "blueprint" of final manifestation in this life. It is mutable, except for the cardinal Moon (which I think shows how you should be during this process, you as a woman, the Moon) - so flexibility, change is emphasized. Also how you relate. It's very integrating, the CRoss. It connects anima with animus (Sun/Moon), Mercury/Uranus - the higher mind, all feminine planets (and benefics - it would be interesting to see where POF falls in this combination) - great possible épanouissement as a woman or with anything connecting Venus/Jupiter and the NN. Very strong Cross integrating everything, supported by the three helpful triangles (each made of a sextile, trine and an opposition) like a propeller. Uranus in that position shows your independence as a woman on as many levels as possible will be paramount. IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 11941 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted April 14, 2014 09:36 AM quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Remember that the Yods are not entirely in our hands, their triggering is an act of fate (the Finger of God). We can only prepare for it by working on the sextile, I think. For me, a quincunx is a Uranian-type energy showing an abrupt move, a surprise. Probably in the Yod, the two quincunxes show how the sextile is simultaneously activated in its two points, when the apex is triggered. The only place where we have freedom of action, where we can prepare for the Yod, is the sextile. good thought! And I agree, the quinkunxes are rather quirky and bizarre. IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 11941 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted April 14, 2014 09:43 AM No Yod for me in 9th harmonic. Only a Fist of God again (square of Jupiter-Uranus, sesisquare Venus) [/URL] IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 11941 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted April 14, 2014 09:56 AM my 9th harm again, with reduced orb, but including Pholus and some others I find it just hilarious how my nameasteroid is conjunct the ASC. lol [/URL] IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 09:58 AM Thanks Leeloo, the interpration is beautiful and yes, the Pluto Yod was triggered first. I recall the event that lead me to change how I look at the world and the way I relate to other people. But I was just a child, what'd I know. These days I think about this event a lot, maybe the second Yod has been triggered as well? It seems I'm to be a woman who embrace her masculine counterpart. I must remind myself to not be afraid, I'll reach it. Oh I forgot, the POF is off at 4 Aquarius, but conjunct my natal MC exact. @Ceridwen: so that's the Fist of God? This is the first time I ever heard of it. What's the different with the Finger of God, he punches you harder? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 11941 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted April 14, 2014 10:01 AM Exactly. Where the finger of good nudges you, the fist of God or Thors hammer pushes you, with your head first usually IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 10:19 AM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Exactly. Where the finger of good nudges you, the fist of God or Thors hammer pushes you, with your head first usually lol, so he constanly pound on your head, how do manage to stay sane? Your 9th harmonic look quite connected, and that Vesta theme again, have you found something on the missing part in Aries? Considering the 9th harmonic chart is a soul chart and you have North Node conjunct Neptune. How do you interpret it? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 11941 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted April 14, 2014 04:31 PM I have an extremely close conjunction of Neptune and NN in my basic chart. 12 or 13 minutes, that is why it is being picked up in most harmonic charts, too. Of course this fact also indicates its significance. I suppose my path includes a bit of dreaming and fantasizing, oh and spirituality of course, I just need to stay away from alcohol and drugs (which I do anyway. lol). Interesting that you asked about the ARies planets, I did not even think about it, but you are right of cuorse. I ahve the T-square there from EROS/VESTA - Uranus- Jupiter, so Aries, right? Well actually Mr Sag has a conjunction of Mars on 9 Aries to Pluto on 12 Aries. LOL In 9th harmonic of course. He also has NN on 12 Cap exactly on my VESTA. CUPIDO on 14 Libra. But nothing in Cancer. So funnily we both have a T-square in9th harmonic with one leg missing to form a Grand Cross. His Mars-Pluto in Aries is the missing leg of my GC. My Uranus in Cancer is the missing leg of his GC (though it falls onto his SN). (and my 9th ARTHUR is on 14 Cancer, linking to that as well) oh and BTW my 9th VERTEX is on 13 Cap conj. my VESTA and his NN too (and actually in my natal chart his name is on 13 Cap) IP: Logged
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 178 From: France Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 14, 2014 05:04 PM It's a soul chart and you have Neptune conjunct North Node, I think wherever you go with this, you couldn't go wrong, hence the drugs and alcohol thing, you wouldn't be here if you take that road anyway. So Mr. Sag have your missing part and you his, and very close to exact of a Cardinal GC. I'm not sure the 9th-9th synastry is all about the past, I think in this case with you two together by each other side, you'd do your soul work more easily and quickly. Who knows the soul could be so romantic in this way . And why Arthur/Guinevere and Vesta are all over your synastry charts, lol. If it isn't written in the stars then what is? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged

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