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AscTaurus
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posted April 13, 2014 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is an observation that I have made- and correct me when you believe it inaccurate.It is a theory.

Sun good aspects with Asc endows one with a clear direction and self belief.Confidence and faith in one self is high.They naturally gravitate to the leadership position as well as the center of attention.

Example: Hulk Hogan

Sun harsh aspects with Asc endows one with a big,sensitive and false ego and an explosive temper.One often doesn't like to be questioned and can be jealous of attention bestowed on others. They always want to be the center of everyone's attention.

Example: Adolf Hitler

Moon good aspects with Asc endows one with a caring nature and an affectionate disposition.They are empathetic, expressive and demonstrative.

Example: Diana Spencer(Sextile Aspect)

Moon harsh aspects with Asc can make one seem pretentious with empty/meaningless gestures.Over-sensitivity and defensiveness is also likely. The sympathetic nature seems shallow.

Example: Saddam Hussein.(Opposition)

Mercury good aspects with Asc can make one very open to converse, well articulated and well versed.They like to listen more than talk.

Example: Ricki Lake. Mercury conjunct Asc.

Mercury harsh aspects with Asc can make one seem critical,judgmental and forcing own opinion others.They talk more than listen.

Example Bill Cosby(square)

Venus good aspects with Asc endows one with natural charm and "ease" in the company of women.They do favours for free.

Example: Billy Crystal. Asc conjunct Venus

Venus harsh aspects to Asc(opposition/ square) makes one seem like they are trying too hard to be nice. Like they are "fake" and being social does not come naturally to them.They expect a favour for a favour.

Example: Mick Jagger (Square)

When Mars sits on the Asc or makes good aspects with the Asc, it endows the individual with assertiveness, a "self" thinking attitude and daring.They like the company of men.

Example: Queen Latifah. Mars is conjunct Asc by 5 Degrees.

If Mars sign forms a harsh aspect to the Asc(opposition or square), the individual may seem like they have a chip on their shoulder and a score to settle.

They may come across too competitive and be "sore losers". They may want to be taken too seriously.

Example: Steven Seagal.

Jupiter on the Asc endows one with an open-minded attitude, enjoyment of others and moral character.

Jane Fonda: Jupiter conjunct Asc.

Hash aspects of Jupiter to Asc can make one seem self-righteous, opportunistic, overly presumptuous of others and with a questionable moral character.

Example: Woody Allen.(square)

Good aspects to Saturn and the Asc endows one with a serious, dedicated and ambitious disposition. They don't like to talk about it but "be" about it.

Example:Anthony Hopkins(sextile)

Harsh aspects to Saturn endows one with acute sensitivity to criticism, feeling "not good enough" and like the work is never done.They are often heavily discouraged by setbacks(even if they don't show it).

Example: Hilary Clinton(Square).

Sometimes you think of a celebrity that exudes the qualities mentioned and you see that it is not always close aspects made to the Asc, but the signs are opposites , squaring or the same nonetheless.

I wonder if we place too much emphasis on Degrees?

What do you guys think of this theory?

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Kerosene
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posted April 13, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun good aspects with Asc endows one with a clear direction and self belief. Confidence and faith in one self is high.They naturally gravitate to the leadership position as well as the center of attention.

Moon good aspects with Asc endows one with a caring nature and an affectionate disposition.They are empathetic, expressive and demonstrative.

Mercury good aspects with Asc can make one very open to converse, well articulated and well versed.They like to listen more than talk.

Venus good aspects with Asc endows one with natural charm and "ease" in the company of women.They do favours for free.

(^these are all conjunctions)

Hash aspects of Jupiter to Asc can make one seem self-righteous, opportunistic, overly presumptuous of others and with a questionable moral character.
To explain myself well, nahhh I don't have to but I will say being good is boring

Wow I agree with everything.

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charlie
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posted April 13, 2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun semi square Asc and Mars and I can be very (!) aggressive but have, thank god, managed to channel it through exercise. When I blow a fuse I scare myself not only for what I feel and what I say, but the physical power that run through my body. I also have Mars conj Asc.

I have always had a very good contact with men and have had very few female friends. We don't speak the same mental language. The ones I do like are into sports and very "fiery", non-bs, kinda women.

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SilverFeather
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posted April 13, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both : Sun and Mars ( in Sagittarius) square Asc ( Virgo) Exact.

I usually remain calm and objective in conversations ( Libra Moon) but I get quite vocal when I hear something that ****** me off, I can't hold back, sorry :P

Just yesterday, I had a conversation with an over-religious guy on campus who went on and on about how gays are not supposed to get married and how women have no right to abort and some other nonsense. I verbally sparred him to death lol ! Now, whenever he sees me, he turns the other way. I just can't keep my mouth shut..it got me in a hell lot of trouble many times before.

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lifefullofwords
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posted April 13, 2014 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting list. I like your examples.
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Venus good aspects with Asc endows one with natural charm and "ease" in the company of women.They do favours for free.

Example: Billy Crystal. Asc conjunct Venus

Venus harsh aspects to Asc(opposition/ square) makes one seem like they are trying too hard to be nice. Like they are "fake" and being social does not come naturally to them.They expect a favour for a favour.

Example: Mick Jagger (Square)


My sister had Venus tightly sextile her ASC but she hates doing favors because she has a Virgo Moon (although she feels like she should do them anyway). So the rest of the chart has to be taken into account. It is a good description of her other than that though. Also, about the Venus square ASC aspect... I have this and I think that is a better description of how the aspect plays out when Venus is at the top of the chart. People with Venus squaring the ASC from the bottom of the chart (especially the 4th) tend to be shy. I have this placement and I'm quite reserved. I actually really hate the idea of behaving in an ingratiating way. I do try to be polite though, even though it doesn't always come easily because I also have Sun opposite Mars.

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libraschoice77
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posted April 13, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With having Mars, Moon, and Jupiter on my ASC others have told me I have a very expressive way about me. Even when I am trying hide how I feel, people can still tell lol.

Also have Sun square ASC, I come across the wrong way with people also.

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