posted April 13, 2014 01:29 PM            

Anyone also have moon square Saturn natally? I have been exploring this more deeply in my chart. It indicates the divorce of my parents, the difficult relationship with my parents and the mother. It is in my 3rd house.

I wonder if it also can signify depression? I did go through this previously, the abandoned child, who had deal with an unstable mother.

posted April 13, 2014 06:48 PM            

Yes, it can definitely indicate depression - or a tendency to be self critical, to judge yourself really harshly. For me (Saturn Sag 1st House square Pisces Moon 3rd house) I find I'm often at odds with my emotions in the sense that I feel awful about myself if I'm too nice, but I can go the reverse and become super emotionally indulgent and fall apart in a rather bleak (Saturn) way.

My parents are divorced as well. Difficult relationship with both, but moreso my father based on our heavily Saturnine synastry. I think it can indicate difficulty or problems with your mother in terms of her emotional stability, or rejecting her feelings.

posted April 13, 2014 08:56 PM            

They're not divorced. Fiercely protective of each other and of their marriage.

posted April 13, 2014 11:26 PM            

My relationship with my mom wasn't good; we were estranged for a few years. My parents were never married, and the final break up was really bad. Their whole relationship was terrible. I was sort of an abandoned child that had to take on adult responsibilities and grow up prematurely. My father went to prison when I was very young, and my mother abused drugs, met another man while my father was away, and had more kids that I was forced to care for. They never treated me like a child, and mentally, I never really was one anyway.

For a very long time, I was emotionally restrained. I'm much better with my emotions nowadays. Although, I think the last time I cried was a few years ago when someone died. Sometimes, I joke that death is the only thing that brings me to tears. I've never had tears of joy. My mom eventually married the man she met after my father. He once asked me, "if I died, would you cry at my funeral?" My reply was, "sure! Tears of joy." I can be really cold, but trust that he deserved that comment from me : ). I actually HATE it when the people closest to me cry for no good reason - especially my children - and I rarely find a good reason. I've observed that in similar situations, most people react differently to their friends and family, but It's my instinct to become annoyed or uncomfortable, and tell the person to stop crying over nothing. You may already be able to sense the draconian influence to my personality.

There's a good side to this though; I'm cool, calm and collected, in emotionally difficult situations.

I totally relate to being self-critical. I don't have low self-esteem or anything, but I don't afford myself the same level of compassion and understanding that I give others for their failures. I have more empathy for people as they deal with the consequences of their actions, but It takes a conscious effort to have that for myself. Not that I think I'm unworthy, but I expect a lot from myself and failure is not an option however inevitable. There was a point in my life where I just couldn't accept defeat, and the very thought, discouraged me from initiating a lot of things. This fear of failure I have is completely irrational and baseless, but nonetheless, it's instinctual and haunting. No matter how well I did something, I didn't enjoy my success. Rather, I was relieved by it.

posted April 14, 2014 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by rorrr:
Hi Sparkling!

Yes, it can definitely indicate depression - or a tendency to be self critical, to judge yourself really harshly. For me (Saturn Sag 1st House square Pisces Moon 3rd house) I find I'm often at odds with my emotions in the sense that I feel awful about myself if I'm too nice, but I can go the reverse and become super emotionally indulgent and fall apart in a rather bleak (Saturn) way.

My parents are divorced as well. Difficult relationship with both, but moreso my father based on our heavily Saturnine synastry. I think it can indicate difficulty or problems with your mother in terms of her emotional stability, or rejecting her feelings.

Moon square Saturn is a difficult one because you just do not make things easy on yourself. One of the key things for me is to view emotions as just...floating by, acknowledge them and let them pass. That way you don't get stuck (Saturn) on the darker, deeper aspects of emotional dwelling OR emotionally cutting off. love

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Thanks for all the responses, so interesting!

I like the way you view emotions, makes it easier.

posted April 14, 2014 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Kate August:
If you haven't already, check out Grant Lewi's definition of Moon square Saturn. It is the most optimistic and hopeful of all the definitions I've read. What others describe as an aspect that sentences us to sad emotional lives, he says is a very powerful aspect, one that promotes success in later life.

I have it from the IC to the descendant; the orb is 8 degrees but I have always felt this one. I felt deficient in relationships when I was young. I never felt loved enough. Once I accepted that I was an emotional person, there was a huge difference in my life.

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Thanks Kate! I will check this out, my ex had this too...(incidentally, he was sent to boarding school from a young age so there was a physical separation).

I will read this one and see what it says,