posted April 15, 2014 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Celestica:
Next to neptune obviously you have a very negative view of the world which isn't going to change, but the great thing about objective fact is no ones opinions matter. The state of the world is better today than it was in the past, regardless of what any of us say. We have lots of issues and nothing is perfect but its nothing we can't fix and overcome, the world has seen much more dire circumstances. And plenty of people in China can read, and the internet is more than just a tool to read doom porn and hate the government. Those farmers can research how to get a higher crop yield, how to save water, what the future weather will be like which will affect their crops. No one had this information 100 years ago. All of human knowledge is in the fingertips of literally billions of people. Knowledge is power people.

edit to add: that the farmer can also research more than just farming, anyone can research how to build a better shelter how to create clean drinking water etc. The internet is a lot more than just linda goodman forums and facebook

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No I don't? I just worry for those countries that is poor and doesn't have the capacity to learn people all those important things right now… it really takes an extremely big effort to learn people how they should treat the environment… you are kind of a bit naive if you think a poor farmer is just going to read how to be eco-friendly on the internet. He couldn't care less? He just does what needs to be done to make as much food as possible, and that is not by being eco-friendly. Everyone knows that eco-friendly is not as effective as the normal conventional way were you use a lot of pesticides and fertilizers ….

But I don't mind that you call me negative. Actually I have a lot of hope for the society in my own country, but I got to admit that the situation in the rest of the world is a lot different and they got a long way…. it's just that our environment doesn't have that long time, seriously. I really think I'm just being realistic:S

posted April 15, 2014 02:34 AM            

May 2056 - Grand Trine Air Uranus in Libra, Neptune in Gemini, Jupiter in Aquarius
August 2063 - Grand Trine Water Saturn in Cancer, Uranus in Scorpio, Pluto in Pisces (11 months)
July 2109 - Grand Trine Air Uranus in Gemini, Neptune in Libra, Saturn in Aquarius (5 months)
February 2116 - Grand Trine Air Uranus in Gemini, Neptune in Libra, Jupiter in Aquarius

Lots of positive configurations in the air signs, very inclined towards equality, decentralization. They almost all involve Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, this is a very powerful combo which links material wealth, stability, and order (Saturn) to innovation, radical change, equality, and technological invention (Uranus) with humanitarianism, environmentalism, and idealism (Neptune). Saturn and Jupiter are also going to make what I believe is called a great mutation? Something like that, its basically when the Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions move from one element to another, which occurs I think every ~150 years or so? I'll edit with more proper information later. For a while they've been conjuncting in Earth signs, starting 2020 they move into Air signs with their first at 0 degrees Aquarius, right after that Pluto moves into Aquarius in 2024 and will trine Uranus in Gemini for a few years. This is a great set up for new government, radical social ideas, technological innovation, etc. For a good while there'll be a very supportive aspect pattern with Pluto-Neptune-Uranus. With Uranus and Pluto both sextiling Neptune in Aries and trine each other.

posted April 15, 2014 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
No I don't? I just worry for those countries that is poor and doesn't have the capacity to learn people all those important things right now… it really takes an extremely big effort to learn people how they should treat the environment… you are kind of a bit naive if you think a poor farmer is just going to read how to be eco-friendly on the internet. He couldn't care less? He just does what needs to be done to make as much food as possible, and that is not by being eco-friendly. Everyone knows that eco-friendly is not as effective as the normal conventional way were you use a lot of pesticides and fertilizers ….

But I don't mind that you call me negative. Actually I have a lot of hope for the society in my own country, but I got to admit that the situation in the rest of the world is a lot different and they got a long way…. it's just that our environment doesn't have that long time, seriously. I really think I'm just being realistic:S

Anyways: If everything really went so wrong and the human race died, it's not like our earth would go down with us. When humans die the environment would go back to normal pretty fast.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Celestica:
No offense but if you actually think that poor people overseas AREN'T using the internet to better their community than you are very naive because that is exactly what is happening. I've read many articles on villages in Africa that are using free online college resources to basically earn a free degree to learn how to build better shelters and create clean drinking water, like I said earlier.

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posted April 15, 2014 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Can you link to any of those sides then? I cannot know the perspective in this, since I've never heard of it myself.

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I don't have them on hand right now but I can edit them in later, you could also just google it or something. Here "villagers internet" brings up this as the first results (http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20140328200067) not exactly what I was talking about but close enough I guess

posted April 15, 2014 03:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Celestica:
I don't have them on hand right now but I can edit them in later, you could also just google it or something. Here "villagers internet" brings up this as the first results (http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20140328200067) not exactly what I was talking about but close enough I guess

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posted April 15, 2014 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
This topic title is wrong then. You talk about apocalypse (something that would probably be inevitable) How worrying about that could change the course of Earth's future?

Also nice to assume from my 1st message that I'm a careless person who doesn't care what the hell is going in our world. You totally didn't get what I said.

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posted April 15, 2014 03:39 AM            

smoke will cover the atmosphere

posted April 15, 2014 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by usc277:
Yes

smoke will cover the atmosphere

some asteroid will hit earth and tilt the axis so the sun will rise from the west.

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posted April 15, 2014 05:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Celestica:
The Sun would only rise from the west if the earth revolved in the other direction I think

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posted April 15, 2014 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by usc277:
thats what am saying..some asteroid will hit us and change our rotating direction...its every man for himself at that point

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posted April 15, 2014 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think everyone would die instantly if that happened :O

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posted April 15, 2014 12:37 PM            

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