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Libreo
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posted April 13, 2014 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, apologies but I cannot upload charts, I do know it would be of help so I am so sorry about this.
I'm having panic attacks. I am currently reading Max Heindels "message of the stars" and while an interesting read, it's messing with me a little. I had a baby on 29th January 2014 at 8.55 in Gosford Australia, according to him, she will have a sudden and unexpected end to her days. Combine this with his interperatation of my Saturn in 5th, stating that I will have trouble making children (I did, 3 miscarriages in the year before I had my baby) and any children I DO have, Saturn will destroy in childhood. I am so paranoid! She does have breathing problems and we are purchasing one of those Angelcare monitors. I read that this is even more probable if my Saturn in 5th is afflicted. How do I know? I was born 21 Oct 1973 at 2.07pm, in Inverell Australia. Is it afflicted? Can someone tell me?
Another question, her sun is in her 12th house, Max Heindel states that when a childs sun is in their 12th house they will experience poverty in their early years and the number of degrees her Asc is from her sun reflects the amount of years they will experience poverty. I think she has Pisces rising at 11 degrees, does that make her Sun 19 degrees away from her Sun?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but this anxious mum needs peace of mind asap!

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Libreo
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posted April 13, 2014 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With regards to her days ending 'suddenly and unexpectedly' that was found under the notes of her having Mars in 8th.

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Newrise
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posted April 13, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in 8th and I am still very much alive,
and I intuitively know that I am going to beat a lot of people in living years

She has a caring mother and I am sure with your support and love, she will thrive and will become a successful human being. She might even show you what BS such presuppositions can be when human beings choose to become the masters of their own destiny.

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Libreo
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posted April 13, 2014 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do hope your'e right. One of those predictions on their own is bad enough but combined together! Very scary. Thankyou for your kind words

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Gabby
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posted April 13, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly...I would suggest you contact iQ regarding this. Ask him to look at your child's chart and have him give a numerology/name analysis before you go any further.
I don't want you to only get a partial reading that either stresses you further or doesn't give you all the advice you need to really help.
He can help you modify your baby's name if their is an issue with her name that creates problems in her life and your seeing it in her chart, there are name numbers that can and will protect or at least partially counteract stress n anyone's life, including stressors in her chart.
Please do this first so you get a thorough answer...I can see your really distressed and need solid answers.

I had a terrible name number and my life was severely challenged...I changed my name and things started changing for me.

The thing that is making me say this is your baby's day of birth, the 29th, is a tough number. My son also was born on the 29th....she will need a very good solid very fortunate name number to help them along in life.
Please contact iQ n get his opinion, the earlier you can get the positive energy flowing the better it will be for her.

iQ has adds on our site, up top, they have his contact info.

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lalalinda
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posted April 13, 2014 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Libreo, Mars/8th house does not mean she will end her days "suddenly and unexpectedly" that would be Uranus/8th.

This Astrologer is no professional
You never predict stuff like that, even if you do see it, it's ethically wrong.

As for your Saturn/5th, that could simply show your difficulties and miscarriages.
To make a prediction like that you need to see the whole chart (especially the Moon)

For the time being I will leave this thread here, maybe some kind hearted knowflake can post your charts. I would but I can't post them either.

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Marandana
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posted April 13, 2014 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's always free will, don't be too fanatic about it. Astrology is just a guide to know someone's strong and weak points, it's not a life-manual. So, now you know her chart you could help to develop her qualities and surpass her negative traits in life.

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Libreo
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posted April 14, 2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou to everyone for helping me, I do feel better about this.

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted April 14, 2014 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Marandana:
There's always free will, don't be too fanatic about it. Astrology is just a guide to know someone's strong and weak points, it's not a life-manual. So, now you know her chart you could help to develop her qualities and surpass her negative traits in life.

I agree.

Although, I would like to add that there aren't negative traits, only traits that become out-of-hand, and thus, become unbalanced and produce negativity out of them. I believe all traits are beneficial to evolve and progress our existence and the world.

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LucieLemonade
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posted April 14, 2014 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This Astrologer is no professional
You never predict stuff like that, even if you do see it, it's ethically wrong.
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Thank you!! This is exactly what I was thinking. Totally unacceptable.


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Ellynlvx
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posted April 14, 2014 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's in the Eleventh House.

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Ellynlvx
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posted April 14, 2014 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001751.html

Here, I've done them both for you.

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LucieLemonade
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posted April 14, 2014 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
It's in the Eleventh House.

I also have the baby's sun in the 11th unless you use whole signs in which case it's in the 12th.

But really what 19 yr old doesn't experience poverty through the university years!

Well, if they don't, they should!

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Ellynlvx
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posted April 14, 2014 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I read that this is even more probable if my Saturn in 5th is afflicted. How do I know?


Another question, her sun is in her 12th house, [/B]


Saturn Trines your Sun, that is a very stable placement.


As I said, her Sun is in the Eleventh.

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Libreo
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posted April 14, 2014 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh the relief!!!
Thankyou so much for going to this trouble you really have made a big difference to my state of mind.
I do wonder though what I have been doing wrong and why I came up with those placements to begin with.
I'm so glad I came here.

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Ellynlvx
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posted April 14, 2014 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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AscTaurus
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posted April 15, 2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Libreo:
First of all, apologies but I cannot upload charts, I do know it would be of help so I am so sorry about this.
I'm having panic attacks. I am currently reading Max Heindels "message of the stars" and while an interesting read, it's messing with me a little. I had a baby on 29th January 2014 at 8.55 in Gosford Australia, according to him, she will have a sudden and unexpected end to her days. Combine this with his interperatation of my Saturn in 5th, stating that I will have trouble making children (I did, 3 miscarriages in the year before I had my baby) and any children I DO have, Saturn will destroy in childhood. I am so paranoid! She does have breathing problems and we are purchasing one of those Angelcare monitors. I read that this is even more probable if my Saturn in 5th is afflicted. How do I know? I was born 21 Oct 1973 at 2.07pm, in Inverell Australia. Is it afflicted? Can someone tell me?
Another question, her sun is in her 12th house, Max Heindel states that when a childs sun is in their 12th house they will experience poverty in their early years and the number of degrees her Asc is from her sun reflects the amount of years they will experience poverty. I think she has Pisces rising at 11 degrees, does that make her Sun 19 degrees away from her Sun?
Sorry if these are dumb questions but this anxious mum needs peace of mind asap!

Well, I did looked at her chart and the Sun is in the 11th house(unless you use whole house system , then it would be in the 12th)

I think that Pisces Asc forming a trine aspect with Saturn is tough, but its workable.

The breathing issues won't be forever as I was born with the Asc opposition to both Pluto and Saturn- and I'm still here.

Also, that Neptune in the 12th house(or the 1st house) can have the effect of the body being susceptible to external inferences and vulnerable to disease.Be careful.

This also suggest a very spiritual time and perhaps a "gift" from a divine place. This baby being that "gift" that transcends all possibilities.

I really don't see any real issues. The Moon/ Venus conjunct Pluto in Capricorn suggests that the Baby was born in a psychologically significant point in time and the feelings the mother has are very powerful.

There is a sense of being "deeply connected" or strongly "interwoven" with the child spiritually.Deep love is very apparent.

Uranus sitting on the Moon suggests that the child may have come as a "surprise". Probably unexpected and "against all odds". So, this is like a sudden flash of brilliance in your life.

Jupiter opposes both Moon and Venus. This kid will be spoiled rotten, dotted on and sincerely loved.

I really think that you shouldn't worry yourself too much about doomsday predictors.

What that astrologer failed to say to you is that they may be looking at one possibility. That there are plenty other choices that you can make to make what they predicted ,not come to pass.

One thing that is important in creating the reality that we choose is feelings. Emotions and being aware of how they contribute to our choices can make all the difference.

I also took a quick glance at your chart.

Firstly, your Asc is also in Pisces and is conjunct Neptune in Pisces right now: There is strong Pisces energy in your emotional as well as physical psyche. Even more so than usual with this transit.

I would advise you to stay away from negative energy and negative vibes. This can have the effect of having you worry, scatter your energies and being both emotionally and physically ill. Be very careful and mindful of this.

Also, transiting Saturn is squaring your Moon and conjunct your Mercury: You may be facing challenges right now with regards to things that you hold dear and struggle to figure out how to solve them.

Relax and control your feeling. All will be well. Be careful in over-exerting yourself and pace yourself with each challenge. It'll be over soon. Just hang in there.

The good news is, it'll make you a lot braver and decisive and you'll come out on the other side feeling a lot more emotionally strengthened.

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nikki01
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posted April 16, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nikki01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally guess cancer sun's and libra sun's too although something about every single libra sun I have met ..annoy the krap outa me lol. Sorry libras its not that I hate you guys. Leo sun here. .pisces asc

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posted April 16, 2014 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hi Libreo, Mars/8th house does not mean she will end her days "suddenly and unexpectedly" that would be Uranus/8th.

This Astrologer is no professional
You never predict stuff like that, even if you do see it, it's ethically wrong.


I would think it would be unethical to *not* mention certain possibilities, including this one. And that's how it should be told to the client--as a possibility.

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