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twinflame1914
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posted April 15, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinflame1914     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long does it take for relationship synastry chart energies to play out?

Every relationship seems to start off amazing then sometimes goes downhill from there - doe the playing out of synastry/composite energies take weeks, months, years? If my charts with someone are difficult would I be aware of this 2 years into the relationship or can it take longer?

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posted April 15, 2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, this is what I think: relationships start amazingly because people put on their best behavior first (or hide the bad one
It's just human nature, I guess.

In terms of synastry, what I've noticed so far: the first ones to be felt are the exact (or very close) hard aspects: conjunctions, squares, oppositions. Then, as time goes by and the relationship becomes deeper and deeper, soft aspects and important larger aspects begin to manifest (added to the hard ones), together with the 4th harmonics aspects: semisquares, sesquisquares, which bring events and surprises. I guess that's why there's a need to have a balance between hard and soft aspects in a synastry.

The more major aspects you have, hard and soft, and equally present, the better and the longer the relationship.

But it's just a general rule, I guess it depends a lot on the natal chart as well, on the needs each person has in order to be fulfilled.

Look for aspects completing the patterns of the other - a clue for a long and fulfilling relationship.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many relationships fail, that's just how life works, and most relationships end sooner rather than later. When you first fall for someone your brain is pumped full of all kinds of chemicals. Once they wear off you have to live in the real world with that person and deal with all your issues. Personally I prefer this stage of the relationship but I've noticed that's not true for everyone. When looking for long-term problems I would pay as much attention to the composite as I would the synastry.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In terms of synastry, what I've noticed so far: the first ones to be felt are the exact (or very close) hard aspects: conjunctions, squares, oppositions. Then, as time goes by and the relationship becomes deeper and deeper, soft aspects and important larger aspects begin to manifest (added to the hard ones), together with the 4th harmonics aspects: semisquares, sesquisquares, which bring events and surprises. I guess that's why there's a need to have a balance between hard and soft aspects in a synastry.

The more major aspects you have, hard and soft, and equally present, the better and the longer the relationship.

But it's just a general rule, I guess it depends a lot on the natal chart as well, on the needs each person has in order to be fulfilled.

Look for aspects completing the patterns of the other - a clue for a long and fulfilling relationship.


That's an interesting theory abut minor aspects popping up later. I had mostly minor aspects in my synastry with my ex (although we did have a lot of major aspects in our draconic synastry) and we didn't really notice each other at first. But once we did it turned out we had amazing chemistry. I think I need or at least like minor aspects in synastry, especially quintiles, bQs, and sesquis because they play a big role in my natal. I definitely agree with you about the significance of having planets the create a an aspect pattern in another person's chart. Almost everyone I've ever felt extremely close to created either a grand trine, a t-square, or both in my natal chart.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lifefullofwords:
Many relationships fail, that's just how life works, and most relationships end sooner rather than later. When you first fall for someone your brain is pumped full of all kinds of chemicals. Once they wear off you have to live in the real world with that person and deal with all your issues. Personally I prefer this stage of the relationship but I've noticed that's not true for everyone. When looking for long-term problems I would pay as much attention to the composite as I would the synastry.

That's an interesting theory abut minor aspects popping up later. I had mostly minor aspects in my synastry with my ex (although we did have a lot of major aspects in our draconic synastry) and we didn't really notice each other at first. But once we did it turned out we had amazing chemistry. I think I need or at least like minor aspects in synastry, especially quintiles, bQs, and sesquis because they play a big role in my natal. I definitely agree with you about the significance of having planets the create a an aspect pattern in another person's chart. Almost everyone I've ever felt extremely close to created either a grand trine, a t-square, or both in my natal chart.


You're right, the other minor aspects manifest as well in the second stage. I'm thinking there could be some exceptions though, like an artistic couple: maybe the 5th harmonics between them will be apparent form the earliest stage, if, for example, they start their relationship by doing something creative together.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For timing, take a look on progressed synastry.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You're right, the other minor aspects manifest as well in the second stage. I'm thinking there could be some exceptions though, like an artistic couple: maybe the 5th harmonics between them will be apparent form the earliest stage, if, for example, they start their relationship by doing something creative together.

It's funny that you mention that because the creative part of our relationship did manifest right off the bat. We initially related to each other mostly via our similar taste and appreciation for the arts. We had Sun quintile Sun, Venus bQ Venus, and Mars bQ Mars (all at less than a degree). We also related well emotionally but I think that was Moon sextile ASC.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
For timing, take a look on progressed synastry.

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posted April 15, 2014 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lifefullofwords:
It's funny that you mention that because the creative part of our relationship did manifest right off the bat. We initially related to each other mostly via our similar taste and appreciation for the arts. We had Sun quintile Sun, Venus bQ Venus, and Mars bQ Mars (all at less than a degree). We also related well emotionally but I think that was Moon sextile ASC.

This is interesting. It shows us how important it is to find the "theme" of the couple, to "personalize" each synastry.

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posted April 15, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
For timing, take a look on progressed synastry.

Totally agree.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is interesting. It shows us how important it is to find the "theme" of the couple, to "personalize" each synastry.

Definitely, and also that synastry works differently depending on the natal charts. We both have golden yods in our charts, I'm not sure either of us would have been as responsive the quintile energy if that weren't the case.

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posted April 15, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Definitely, and also that synastry works differently depending on the natal charts. We both have golden yods in our charts, I'm not sure either of us would have been as responsive the quintile energy if that weren't the case.

That's a very cool thing about those golden Yods in both your charts, emphasizing the theme of your synastry. So that's what two people with golden Yods need: the 5th harmonics in synastry

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