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posted April 18, 2014 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to various subjects in here and on the net, there are some aspects and placements that according to astrology makes people more beautiful, like for an example libra rising, venus-ascendant aspects, fire mars, air uranus, fire/air ascendant, earth/water moon, libra/taurus venus, sun conjunction venus aspect and so on….

So have you ever seen someone and was like "WOW they are really beautiful" but they don't really got any of the "beautiful" aspects??? ----AND everyone else probably think they are beautiful too, it's not just you, but their beauty seems unexplainable astrology-wise???

(don't think I have seen anyone myself)

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posted April 18, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What classifies as an ugly chart? .

There is no such thing ._,
and Ive met a really average person with sun conjunct venus in libra.. Of course they thought they were really attractive which was a tiny bit amusing

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posted April 18, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SerpeantKing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've actually noticed that the ugliest people in life have the most blessed charts-especially grand trines. I'm always careful of such people. They seem to be great rip off artists under nice manners. Someone with a lot of planets in one sign is something to watch out for too. They usually are very close minded and stuck in their own endeavors.

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posted April 18, 2014 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
What classifies as an ugly chart? .

There is no such thing ._,
and Ive met a really average person with sun conjunct venus in libra..


Like someone who doesn't have any beautiful aspects as listed above (plus others too probably) ?

Have you ever seen a model without ANY of those placements?

Well I've also seen people who wasn't pretty with sun conjunction venus, I think there is also quiet good chances for people to have that aspect in general:P

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posted April 18, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SerpeantKing:
I've actually noticed that the ugliest people in life have the most blessed charts-especially grand trines. I'm always careful of such people. They seem to be great rip off artists under nice manners. Someone with a lot of planets in one sign is something to watch out for too. They usually are very close minded and stuck in their own endeavors.

like because their personality is ugly or their faces?

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posted April 18, 2014 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many models and actors with out those placements.
Leonardio di caprio does not count and he got fugly as hell anyways.
He looks like a tub of regret I would even pity **** him.

Actual saturn is prominent in models.

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posted April 18, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted April 18, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
There are many models and actors with out those placements.
Leonardio di caprio does not count and he got fugly as hell anyways.
He looks like a tub of regret I would even pity **** him.

Actual saturn is prominent in models.


HAH! He is a wonderful example cause he got libra ascendant but a lot of scorpio… scorpio guys are usually ugly (NO OFFENSE) but I've only seen a few scorpio guys who was attractive for real

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posted April 18, 2014 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but gotta admit he looked fine when he was young! But now? not so much!

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posted April 18, 2014 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's honor his youth with a minute of silence.

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posted April 18, 2014 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get more attention than my sister and she has mars/Venus trine, Venus and Pluto on the rising. I have none of the so called beauty aspects. Actually I have a supposedly ugly aspects related to Saturn. Although I believe a mix between Saturn and Uranus = striking classic beauty. Venus is like a plain bun that tastes only sweet nothing else.

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posted April 18, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend who I personally don't find attractive, but who am I to judge?

Anyway, she's a Virgo sun/Ascendant, Libra Mercury/Venus and Cancer moon. She's got Sun conjunct Ascendant, amongst many other trines, sextiles and conjunctions to her Ascendant.

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posted April 18, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I get more attention than my sister and she has mars/Venus trine, Venus and Pluto on the rising. I have none of the so called beauty aspects. Actually I have a supposedly ugly aspects related to Saturn. Although I believe a mix between Saturn and Uranus = striking classic beauty. Venus is like a plain bun that tastes only sweet nothing else.

so what is your aspects to saturn/uranus? any contacts with the ascendant then? or do you have uranus in a fire/air sign?

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posted April 18, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with vickymadness.The only beauty aspect I have is sun conjunct Venus.I get complimented a lot.

I have chart ruler Saturn conjunct Uranus(a few minutes apart).
That conjunction opposes my stellium.

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Comatoes
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posted April 18, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Midpoints can show beauty, even when you don't see it in the natal...

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posted April 18, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gandhi had Libra Sun, Libra Asc., Venus in 1st in Scorpio, as well as Mars, Mercury in Scorpio with Venus conjunct Mars. He wasn't beautiful, but people saw his soul or personality as beautiful.

Another aspect that gets the ugly rap is Venus/Saturn, but it sure does show up in pageants, models, or anyone in the beauty field...

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posted April 18, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Gandhi had Libra Sun, Libra Asc., Venus in 1st in Scorpio, as well as Mars, Mercury in Scorpio with Venus conjunct Mars. He wasn't beautiful, but people saw his soul or personality as beautiful.

Another aspect that gets the ugly rap is Venus/Saturn, but it sure does show up in pageants, models, or anyone in the beauty field...


heh, again we have some scorpio influence… plus I've heard that scorpio venus is an ugly-aspect…I got it myself though and don't think I'm ugly, but what do I know

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posted April 18, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No beauty aspects in my chart. N I'm a beauty.Not

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posted April 18, 2014 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


Lol!!

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posted April 18, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't say I've ever seen a beautiful person without a chart that indicated that. I have seen average-looking people with pretty charts though. Usually they're quite charming so I think that some of the aspects associated with beauty can also indicate likability. Also, beauty is so subjective that it can be difficult to judge whether or not someone has it in the first place.

BTW I'd be sure to also check midpoints, declinations, and asteroids. They can explain a lot.

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Another aspect that gets the ugly rap is Venus/Saturn, but it sure does show up in pageants, models, or anyone in the beauty field...

I have Venus square Saturn so I've looked up which celebs have this aspect. Most are gorgeous and make a living off of their beauty in some way. I realize this is common for famous women but it seems to be unusually prevalent. I think it's because Saturn contacting Venus can make a person see beauty as something that can be commodified. Anyway, I have not only Venus-Saturn but also Saturn-ASC and I'm definitely not ugly. But I also have Venus (my chart ruler) tightly squaring my ASC. So I suppose as usual the whole chart has to be taken into account.

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posted April 18, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Another aspect that gets the ugly rap is Venus/Saturn, but it sure does show up in pageants, models, or anyone in the beauty field...[/B]

I have Venus conjunct Saturn in Scorpio and people comment on how much I've changed over the years.

I think this aspect has to do with increased self-confidence and the ability to project one's "good" side better to the world.

Gary Barlow has Saturn in Taurus sitting on his Asc, I've always thought that he was the cutest out of all the "Take that" members. But others called him "the fat one".

Now fast forward to recently and oh my goodness, he is positively on fire. I like the discerning frown look he gave contestants on "Britain's Got Talent": It's his Asc opposition Moon in action; looking emotionally uninvolved to others but sincerely trying to be. Hot!!

Saturn in Taurus just gives me the impression that the person concerned will be good in bed.

Tyler Perry also has Saturn in Taurus, but I'm guessing that his Sun/Asc and Mars/Asc square and opposition respectively just makes him less appealing to me.

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posted April 18, 2014 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically I have none of those aspects you listed so I should look like a foot

I am just not completely sold on the idea that beauty or the modern standard of beauty depends on a natal chart. Example I know a handful of people with those aspects who aren't considered gorgeous just as I know people who don't have those aspects who are I consider to be attractive.

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posted April 18, 2014 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know who I thought of? There's an actress who has been on soaps since the 1970's and an astrologer did an analysis on her chart....OMG, I was so shocked, nothing but squares!!!

Her co-stars always talk about her serene and lovely her personality is, although she has had some major upheavals in her life...her life was even televised in an NBC movie of the week...

Diedre Hall from Days of Our Lives....

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posted April 18, 2014 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some 'ugly' aspects I think, if Saturn square Venus and Sun could be considered such. Moon opposite Venus also.

But as mentioned above they have manifested in personality rather than physical appearance. I've always considered myself unattractive despite knowing that it isn't true. It's been a paradox for me because objectively, I've always known that I am good looking but I have also felt worthless, almost like being beautiful is mandatory >>

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posted April 18, 2014 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


He seems like a such a fussy ***** too even back then..
Yeah he was cute but idk something about him is off putting.

but idk he was cute, I would stuff a sock in his mouth and make him my bish.


but River Phoenix can do whatever he wants with me.
Even from the god damn afterlife.
That mars square neptune got me like hnnnnnng

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