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Jo B
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posted April 26, 2014 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what kind of aspects/placements a person would have who pulls the plug on things like relationships. Like, putting their heart and soul into it 100%, and then just ending it for whatever reason with no looking back.

Harsh pluto and Saturn aspects to Venus or Moon perhaps? Or something else? What do you think.

I tend to do this (not with ALL people, but with some) and I'm not sure what in my chart makes me like this.

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pocaloca
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posted April 26, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would put by bet on VENUS/MOON in hard, tight aspect to URANS Jo B.
Saturn causes "captivity", Pluto obsession when in hard aspect to Venus/Moon and that again is surety for durability even if painful .

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lvASTRO
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posted April 26, 2014 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars conjunct Saturn/Uranus, and my Moon Square all (Mars/Saturn/Uranus). I have a kill switch. Put my heart and soul into a relationship, but will end it in a second if I know it's over, or if I'm treated badly, and won't shed a tear/look back.

It's ironic because I just finished dismantling the bed my ex and I bought together so he can come pick it up... And I filled out divorce papers all day.

I'm having a Bloody Mary and listening to some Charlotte Gainsbourg. Couldn't be happier.

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pocaloca
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posted April 26, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lvASTRO

read this..I thought you might want to know. http://www.astrotrends.net/newsletters/negative/uranus-mars-neg

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lvASTRO
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posted April 26, 2014 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pocaloca:
Yes, Mars/Uranus...it makes sense but then I have Mars tight square (1°) Uranus and I am def. not like that..I actually hesitate to cut all ties even when it is long overdue..I somehow always believe that there is , maybe still something good in a person, uniqueness I would lose forever if I cut them off..damn! I hate that actua
lly.. Do you have conjunction? opposition? whatz?

btw, CHEERS

ups, I see now...conjunction. okay. I guess you have also some scorpio placements.


Yeah, I do. Pluto on the ascendant in 1st house, sun/pluto, venus/pluto, progressed scorpio asc., and pluto scorpio.

I don't end things right away. I do believe in forgiveness and second chances. But when I do make the call, my life just... Goes on. Almost as if it never happened. I spring back immediately and move on.

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pocaloca
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posted April 26, 2014 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lvASTRO:
Yeah, I do. Pluto on the ascendant in 1st house, sun/pluto, venus/pluto, progressed scorpio asc., and pluto scorpio.

I don't end things right away. I do believe in forgiveness and second chances. But when I do make the call, my life just... Goes on. Almost as if it never happened. I spring back immediately and move on.


woo, be happy.
In my case I need really much to be so ****** off in order to move on and forget..but when I do then there is no way back no matter what...maybe thats my mars 90 uranus, dont know..My ex husband tried 6 long years to win me back, no way and he was not able to accept because i was so forgiving and devoted before i decided that it is over..So when love and devotion in us dies thats it..I agree.

Did you read what I gave you Mary?

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lvASTRO
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posted April 26, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 years is such a long time, and you were probably like, "No way, dude. DONE!"

I have totally read that before. I don't remember if on this forum, or just perusing, but yes! It's scary.

What's weird is, I'll be driving, say, 65mph on the freeway and have morbid thoughts like, " If my tire blew out right now, my car would flip, and I'd probably die from head trauma."

Now I know where it comes from!!!

Interesting read. Thanks!

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pocaloca
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posted April 26, 2014 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lvASTRO:
6 years is such a long time, and you were probably like, "No way, dude. DONE!"


ahaha, yes!
but I stayed friend and friendly which probable made the things harder for him...Not my problem anyway, my conscience is kosher


I advise you, when you cut all ties, please do it in a gentle way!
Dont make the other think that you are cruel and that you need to be punished...You get my point? Lots of freaks and weak people out there.
Thats also why I gave you that read darling.Be friendly and slowly move away, my advice..Well I have that **** aspect as well ya know so I try to be diplomatic, I really do.
Its not easy always but better the bullet in the head ahaha..kiss and enjoy your drink, relax and smile

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lvASTRO
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posted April 26, 2014 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't even think about that. Thank you for the insight. I really appreciate you for doing that. It's very sweet.

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pocaloca
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posted April 26, 2014 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<3

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posted April 26, 2014 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I do it too. I do feel guilty though, so sometimes I just don't and try to coexist, but mentally and emotionally checked out. It's part of my growth to be honest to myself and to others. But what do I do with the guilt? Venus in Pisces.

Other aspects: Venus opposite Moon, square Uranus and Saturn :O

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seekinglight
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posted April 27, 2014 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seekinglight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 7th - swinging between OCD towards one's object of desire and treating them good as dead after all's said and done. Extreme hot and cold.

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posted April 27, 2014 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if it helps? but for love/I have moon conjunct neptune and for obsession: venus opp pluto- I am totally in love and attracted, after that (after a long time) it goes puff- I have a mars square uranus,mars square neptune, mars square moon, moon conj uranus ..

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posted April 27, 2014 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Uranus is the culprit. Moon opp. Uranus for me. When I decide it's over, it's over. I have to end it my way, though. Think over all aspects of the relationship, examine all my/their faults silently and when I decide there is nothing positive in the future for us I cut all ties.
Someone that can move from obsession to "you don't exist" has Pluto in the 7th and Uranus square Moon and Mars.

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maira
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posted April 27, 2014 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who do that are, in my experience, heavily influenced by Pluto, especially Pluto square Venus.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds more like a Pluto thing (and Scorpio influences, also because of Pluto): uncompromising, the ability to die and be reborn which is projected onto relationships too, translated into the ability to "kill" someone in your heart and mind. Although he/she always remains there, until the end of time: it's just you think of him as if he/she is "deceased". Can't take him back into your heart.

Pluto to ASC, Mars, Venus, Sun, and Scorpio/8th house placements.

I am like that too: Mars conjunct Pluto, Venus semisextile/parallel Pluto, Sun and all personals in the 8th house.

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 27, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The concept of being friends with an ex is weird to me. Moon square Venus, Moon square Saturn, Venus conjunct Saturn, lots of Saturn, Pluto singleton.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted April 27, 2014 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This sounds more like a Pluto thing (and Scorpio influences, also because of Pluto): uncompromising, the ability to die and be reborn which is projected onto relationships too, translated into the ability to "kill" someone in your heart and mind. Although he/she always remains there, until the end of time: it's just you think of him as if he/she is "deceased". Can't take him back into your heart.

Yeah you really described that very well… I have moon/mars square uranus pretty tight and venus in scorpio conjunction pluto in 5th house… I have a hard time letting go, but an even harder time letting someone into my heart AGAIN…that's even worse than letting them go

I think because of this that I would like to stay in contact, but it just always seems a bit too awkward…. not on my side though, but on theirs… I remember how I always really tried to be friends with my ex's but they just didn't wanted that, cause our relationship was probably a bit too intense to turn into a real good friendship( and the break up was too dramatic)….

I think pocaloca is right about that when you do cut the ties, please do it gently, without crying, without yelling and all that…. it seems hard for plutonian/scorpio influenced people, but I think it would make everything a lot easier if we were able to cut ties without too much drama, cause it's destructive and you could lose a possible good friend actually

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Nine
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posted April 27, 2014 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This seems my preferred way of dealing with difficult people. However, the Moon/Pluto types retaliate against being cut out.

I thought Moon & Venus were the planets responsible for the bonds we make with others, especially Venus.

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manderin
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posted April 27, 2014 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds kind of like a capricorn thing to me. I figure perhaps a capricorn would put plenty of work into a relationship until they came to the realization that the relationship wasn't worth it. Then they'll cut off and never look back. I think capricorns like to work, but the thing they're working for has to be worth the investment. Once they see it's a bad investment they look the other way and they don't look back. I'm not sure though.

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posted April 27, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always had NO problems in burning bridges at all. I don't go back, but I just make sure I made the right decision before cutting all the ties. Venus square saturn; my tightest natal aspect.

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posted April 27, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jo B, I would have to say for placements either having Uranus in 5th or 7th house, because people tend to appear quickly in your life but also can be let go easy also. With aspects Mars/Pluto either square or opposition because people with these aspects are good at moving on and eliminating people from their life the don't need.

I have both Uranus in 5th and aspect Mars square Pluto and I have no problem walking away from a person...so easy with those that cause me the most headache.

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Jo B
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posted April 27, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the answers.

I don’t have Venus or Moon aspected to Uranus (or Pluto) but I do have Chiron (in Pisces) opposite Uranus, Pluto and Mercury (all in Virgo). It’s like I can make relationships (and they are mutually sort of healing for both – well the guys always say I’m a comforting influence in their lives) but then I can poison or simply nuke them just as hard when I feel something’s not right or the relationship is unfairly balanced. Also I think the Mercury conjunct Uranus in Virgo/11th house makes me quite practical and cool about things once I’ve finished an affair, and because it’s in that “friends” house I don’t make a big dramatic scene about it, I just wish them well and move on. I know it sounds awful but I find it as much liberating as sad, like I can get back to being me again .

I also have Venus opposite moon and both squaring Neptune which probably doesn’t help (too idealistic when it comes to love). Lol

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posted April 28, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a good thread. I enjoyed reading it as I have done this too in the past. I'm extremely loyal but can get a little dramatic if I feel betrayed... My most extreme moment I didn't just walk out the door, I fled the country. From one foreign (developing) country to another. By myself. Because I realized it is better to be happy alone than miserable together.

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posted April 28, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutomercjup20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon square Uranus but I don't think it counts since its a pretty wide orb (7'') but I do have Saturn square venus ( mars and Jupiter too) and yeah once I get sick and tired of peoples bullsh*t (and it takes a lot to **** me off) , I can literally cut them off like no tomorrow. Once I burn the bridges , there is no going back ever. Especially in the love and "friends" department.

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