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whaaat
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posted April 28, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have any femme fatale/black widow aspects?

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posted April 28, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto and moon in Scorpio too. Do yours conjunct?

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posted April 28, 2014 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I have Pluto and moon in Scorpio too. Do yours conjunct?

Mine do not! The Moon is the only planet Pluto doesn't touch in my chart, although they sit in the same house +sign

Do you feel the impact of this aspect in your interactions?

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posted April 28, 2014 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A femme fatale has to be cold hearted, and it's not the case with Pluto/Scorpio. Yes for BML and add some Uranus/Saturn aspects to personal planets and maybe Capricorn/Aquarius placements. Femme fatale is detached not an obsessive lover.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
A femme fatale has to be cold hearted, and it's not the case with Pluto/Scorpio. Yes for BML and add some Uranus/Saturn aspects to personal planets and maybe Capricorn/Aquarius placements. Femme fatale is detached not an obsessive lover.

I didn't know how to properly label the queen of swords archetype- my bad. :P

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posted April 28, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whaaat:
I didn't know how to properly label the queen of swords archetype- my bad. :P


Why queen of swords??

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posted April 28, 2014 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 28, 2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought queen of swords would infer a woman who is intelligent, dominant, independent, etc.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about some sexy asteroid conjunct personal planets or angles?

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posted April 28, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
I thought queen of swords would infer a woman who is intelligent, dominant, independent, etc.

In my culture the suit of swords/spades is symbolic of death, trickery, lies, bad luck etc. The dark side of human nature. The queen of swords is the woman who comes from that dark place.
We even have a play (by Alexander Pushkin) called The Dame of Spades/Queen of Spades, and it's about a man losing his entire fortune to a woman in a card game, and then if I remember correctly dying or committing suicide.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whaaat:
A fixation on death, dominance, abuse, secret motives, morality, control etc. All the Pluto/Uranus/BML type issues, I associate with the suit of swords/spades?

That's definitely not a femme fatale. A FF is someone who is seductive but may or may not know it, and can separate love from sexual attraction to the point where they can be dangerous to their lovers, but not necessarily in a toxic way. Men get smitten by them but the woman hasn't necessarily done anything wrong.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 29, 2014 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Femme Fatale are toxic women. They get away with murder because of their beauty and charms. I really do not see how a 'femme fatale' can be 'fatale' if she isn't aware of it.

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posted April 29, 2014 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some girls who are like this… guys always talk to me like "Who is your friend, she is interesting!"

One is an Aqua sun with scorpio moon and the rest of her chart is almost capricorn, but she has libra rising
Another is Leo sun with Libra moon and many leo/cancer placements… they both "light up a room" in their own way and people are drawn to them like they are magnets

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posted April 29, 2014 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the midpoint from Janus software:

Pluto = Venus/Ascendant
Personal magnetism and charisma. A striking physical presence; fixations about self-image and looks. Potential vanity. Sexual chemistry between partners. The desire for passion and commitment within partnerships. Intense relationships. A possessive or jealous lover. Manipulating others or being manipulated. (Femme fatale).

So Ascendant, Pluto, and Venus factors into the Femme Fatale archetype.

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posted April 29, 2014 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my ASC exactly conjunct Venus/Pluto midpoint, while I might be generally attractive I don't exhibit the femme fatale traits. If someone is attracted to me and I'm not, I immediately cut it off so I don't lead them on or cause them any damage. I can't think femme fatale without thinking uranus. But according to OP what you described is BML's playground, or Pluto handled with immaturity.

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posted April 29, 2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whaaat:
I've got: Pluto squaring or opposite every planet but the Moon
Pluto and Moon in Scorpio
Venus and Sun square BML
BML in the 7th
ALL the Liliths opposite AC
ALL the Liliths square Venus.
It shows in my interactions, not just with the opposite sex but with friends as well. Aggressively morbid fascinations and attractions etc.

What are the orbs for Pluto's aspects? What does your Mars do?

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posted April 29, 2014 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know one(don’t know her birth time), she’s a man magnet.

She has :-

Venus sextile Neptune (less than a degree)
Venus sextile Uranus(1 degree)
Mars square Pluto(1 degree)
Moon conjunct Pluto in Scorpio (orb depends upon the birth time)
Venus trine Pluto(6 degree)
Moon sextile Neptune and Uranus (orb depends upon the birth time)
Moon square Mars
Venus trine Moon
Mars in Aquarius
Venus in Pisces
Mercury in Aquarius
Scorpio Moon
Pisces Sun

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posted April 29, 2014 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 29, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering what your Mars is doing to elicit the situation you've described in your opening post. I guess it all comes down to Pluto (a pun? Lol) after all. Pluto is a proper 2 way street when it comes to romance, with attraction and fine dosage of repulsion.


anonymidarkness,

Should we put the "femme fatale" and "man-magnets" into the same bag? Been thinking about this...

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posted April 29, 2014 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I think we all have a little femme fatale in us...

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posted April 29, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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anonymidarkness,

Should we put the "femme fatale" and "man-magnets" into the same bag? Been thinking about this...


No, not every man-magnet can be a femme fatale.

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posted April 29, 2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
A femme fatale has to be cold hearted, and it's not the case with Pluto/Scorpio. Yes for BML and add some Uranus/Saturn aspects to personal planets and maybe Capricorn/Aquarius placements. Femme fatale is detached not an obsessive lover.

Venus conj Gem ASC
Venus opp PLuto
Venus Trine Uranus
Venus Sextile Saturn
Moon parallel Uranus

Mercury (asc ruler) Square Uranus/Neptune AND Quincunx Pluto (really afflicted)

AM I SCREWED ? LOL

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Yanmorg
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posted April 30, 2014 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun, Mercury(r), Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, and Descendant in Scorpio. I also have mars conjunct pluto and Sun conjunct pluto on top of all that intensity. My mars is ALSO in my 7th house cusp. Can we say sexy? I think so. My libra moon definitely lightens things up enough to keep me from drowning in my own intensity.

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posted April 30, 2014 01:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh I think we all have a little femme fatale in us...

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LOl right..
Being a femme fatal 24/7 is unrealistic, and most of the time try hards are not attractive...

Unless you're..


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