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AquaWithaHeart
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posted May 01, 2014 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaWithaHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After a long discuss with both of my parents they both agree that I was born 4:00 which mean Sag.However,I believe I was born around 5ish which mean Cap Asc
Here's my chart if you want a look

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Gabby
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posted May 01, 2014 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wow...the real question is are there any similarities between cap n saggy AC?? Lol

Cap AC has huge interest in money, finances and what they wqawant to do in their life to secure success in life, they need to feel they are building their life into something important. They come across as responsible n usually relatively structured unless they have an afflicted AC...sometimes it's not until adulthood that they start behaving in this manner but when they do it becomes all encompassing to their lives...they eat, sleep and breath their ambitions and the desire to climb the financial ladder to success!

Saggy AC is going to be more about preserving their freedom, work needs to be a non restraining type of thing. Money comes n money goes no need to stress over it because life will always be great as long as you have the freedom to roam n live life to the fullest!

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posted May 01, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a heart ? saggy asc ftw.

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AquaWithaHeart
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posted May 01, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaWithaHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Oh, wow...the real question is are there any similarities between cap n saggy AC?? Lol

Cap AC has huge interest in money, finances and what they wqawant to do in their life to secure success in life, they need to feel they are building their life into something important. They come across as responsible n usually relatively structured unless they have an afflicted AC...sometimes it's not until adulthood that they start behaving in this manner but when they do it becomes all encompassing to their lives...they eat, sleep and breath their ambitions and the desire to climb the financial ladder to success!

Saggy AC is going to be more about preserving their freedom, work needs to be a non restraining type of thing. Money comes n money goes no need to stress over it because life will always be great as long as you have the freedom to roam n live life to the fullest!


The Cap asc fits some much I have a dream to help ppl the best way I can but my parents insists I was 4:00.Ppl have told me I seem quiet,distance, lost in own world;I even had guy tell me I look like I could kill someone

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
You have a heart ? saggy asc ftw.

Yea.the heart thing is for ppl who keep saying Aqua are emotionless

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posted May 01, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure, helping ppl n trying to make money sounds like a saggy trait, cap only cares about money...not helping ppl.
Saggys are humanitarians and all about higher love...not money.

I don't quite get what 12muddy is saying...saggys have no heart??

Saggys have huge hearts, I have a saggy stellium Sun/Merc/Nep, so I don't get what they are saying!

When saggys get down they get really down n at their worst they can get angry n heartless, but it's a very short lived and temporary state, they are too optimistic to stay down to long but yes when they fall they fall harder n lower than most ppl!

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posted May 01, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Caps only care about money? Sorry that's the most <insert bad words of choice> I've read.

aqua: Ime aquas have emotions, they just handle them differently. Don't explode n throw tantrums or dwell on stuff for eternity. Pretty cool in my book, really.

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posted May 01, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AquaWithaHeart:
The Cap asc fits some much I have a dream to help ppl the best way I can but my parents insists I was 4:00.Ppl have told me I seem quiet,distance, lost in own world;I even had guy tell me I look like I could kill someone


Could you post a pic? Your description sounds like Scorpio asc, you'd be born earlier and it would put some of your planets in the 4th (heart )
Do you dress a lot in black?

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posted May 01, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sag Ascendant

I'm loud, outgoing, philosophical, and super friendly when I meet people. I find Sag Ascendants have big eyes and loud/funny laughs.

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posted May 01, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagi rising is usually very fit and with a very low body fat %

Cappy not so much.
Some capricorn Athletes are very fit as well, but their body fat is not that low.
Metabolism is a bit slow also.

On the other hand, some people with Sagi rising tend to love weed, alcohol, tattoos, etc.

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posted May 01, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
Caps only care about money? Sorry that's the most <insert bad words of choice> I've read.

aqua: Ime aquas have emotions, they just handle them differently. Don't explode n throw tantrums or dwell on stuff for eternity. Pretty cool in my book, really.


Your not a typical Cap AC muddy!! I've seen your posts before, your unique in that way! Most are highly money oriented! I posted a thread long ago that asked if a cap rising would or what they would give up for love or a relationship...nobody that answered said they would give up a job, career or their progress in life for love!
I can't find the thread though, I tried!

Here's one that also displays cap AC ambitiousness for money!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210813.html

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posted May 01, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
sounds like a saggy trait, cap only cares about money...not helping ppl.

Eh..

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posted May 01, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
Eh..

I guess I should they do care about helping ppl but not really into giving their money away unless it gives them a tax break n saves money in the long run.
I've known quite a few n once they get going on their money journey it's hard for them to think of much else.

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posted May 01, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you could be feeling more "Cappy" because of the stellium of Mars, Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn.

Why don't you look at the rulers and see which transits affect you most?

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sis
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posted May 01, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh my god Cap's only care about money ! ??

For the last couple of weeks, as I was reading the comments made on this site, I thought before there were true astrologers around, knowledgable people for real... now, people giving undoubtly wrong information.

Let's compare Cap's & Sag's.

Cap's are reliable people. You can always count on them when the going gets tough. They accept life as it is; they are deep ( remember fish tale ) and trustworthy. They always try to plan ahead so that they can protect themselves and the people they care for. Yet, depending on the aspects they can be calculative and it's not easy for them to forget. They remember the past. The good deeds & the bad deeds. They need to feel secure so they struggle to make money, do as best as they can to survive. You can't deny the physical reality of the existance... They are attracted to people who are successfull ( not necessarily rich )... There is some sort of seriousness in them but that does not mean they don't know how to party. Remember Capricorns are associated with Pan... Depending on the aspects, they can be harsh and sometimes brutal. Especially if you try to abuse them. They are mostly pessimistic, they worry a lot. Maybe it's because they feel responsible for everything. Well I can talk on & on but let's cut it short and move to Sag.

Lovely Sags are joyful They don't really care about past, they are more future oriented. They are optimists but sometimes they can promise you the stars which are not theirs to give. Mostly, it's not too hard for them to abandon their responsibilities. However, they can help you to relax with their genuine smile and positivity. They love freedom, travel. They are great travel companions. They live for adventure. So, they can make you feel alive. When the going gets though, they can inject hope which is essential to carry on...

At the end everything depends on aspects and other planet placements...

While trying to determine your ascendant, you must take other planet placements into account, especially moon. Because some of your attitudes can be related to your moon sign. Look at the whole picture and then try to decide. Capricorn are usually skinny and most of them has some kind of a feauture on their face that kinda shadow ( this is not the correct word but well you get the idea ) their beauty; long face this kinda thing. Their skins are very sensitive and teeths another problematic area..

Ok. have to go now.. hope the info I provided helps.

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posted May 01, 2014 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaWithaHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sis:
oh my god Cap's only care about money ! ??

For the last couple of weeks, as I was reading the comments made on this site, I thought before there were true astrologers around, knowledgable people for real... now, people giving undoubtly wrong information.

Let's compare Cap's & Sag's.

Cap's are reliable people. You can always count on them when the going gets tough. They accept life as it is; they are deep ( remember fish tale ) and trustworthy. They always try to plan ahead so that they can protect themselves and the people they care for. Yet, depending on the aspects they can be calculative and it's not easy for them to forget. They remember the past. The good deeds & the bad deeds. They need to feel secure so they struggle to make money, do as best as they can to survive. You can't deny the physical reality of the existance... They are attracted to people who are successfull ( not necessarily rich )... There is some sort of seriousness in them but that does not mean they don't know how to party. Remember Capricorns are associated with Pan... Depending on the aspects, they can be harsh and sometimes brutal. Especially if you try to abuse them. They are mostly pessimistic, they worry a lot. Maybe it's because they feel responsible for everything. Well I can talk on & on but let's cut it short and move to Sag.

Lovely Sags are joyful They don't really care about past, they are more future oriented. They are optimists but sometimes they can promise you the stars which are not theirs to give. Mostly, it's not too hard for them to abandon their responsibilities. However, they can help you to relax with their genuine smile and positivity. They love freedom, travel. They are great travel companions. They live for adventure. So, they can make you feel alive. When the going gets though, they can inject hope which is essential to carry on...

At the end everything depends on aspects and other planet placements...

While trying to determine your ascendant, you must take other planet placements into account, especially moon. Because some of your attitudes can be related to your moon sign. Look at the whole picture and then try to decide. Capricorn are usually skinny and most of them has some kind of a feauture on their face that kinda shadow ( this is not the correct word but well you get the idea ) their beauty; long face this kinda thing. Their skins are very sensitive and teeths another problematic area..

Ok. have to go now.. hope the info I provided helps.


I have thick eyebrows and I am very skinny and my bottom row of teeth need fixing tho.I forgot about the moon.I can be very lazy and slow like my moon sometimes My mom tell me I have big teeth like my dad who is a Sag Asc

quote:
Originally posted by maira:
Could you post a pic? Your description sounds like Scorpio asc, you'd be born earlier and it would put some of your planets in the 4th (heart )
Do you dress a lot in black?

I'n not too crazy about black.I actually like colors like, Grey,brown and green.I might post a pic later.

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Sagi rising is usually very fit and with a very low body fat %

Cappy not so much.
Some capricorn Athletes are very fit as well, but their body fat is not that low.
Metabolism is a bit slow also.

On the other hand, some people with Sagi rising tend to love weed, alcohol, tattoos, etc.

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peace


I find ppl who smoke weed with tons of tattoos kinda interesting

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I think you could be feeling more "Cappy" because of the stellium of Mars, Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn.

Why don't you look at the rulers and see which transits affect you most?


Could be;How do I find that ?

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posted May 01, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At sis, I'm not going off what I've read anywhere I'm going off what I've seen and their bottom line is money. But not before that desire hits them...sometimes that doesn't happen for while sometimes it happens early. Then once they get their financial self set and feel secure about making their own they do settle down n focus on other things.

I agree with most of what you said about them, yes they are reliable, nice, self sacrificing but it's all only to a point....once you or your needs interfere with their bottom line, money, all the niceties are out the window, nothing comes between them and their goals!

Please don't try to discredit our astrologers around here, it's not very nice, it makes you look like you think you above us, like your an unkind person. Hopefully that's not your intention because unkind ppl are not warmly accepted around here as they shouldn't be because we are supportive to one another not rude!

Quite frankly you missed the bottom line of cappy AC....n nobody is trying to act like your not a great astrologer, so don't do it others!

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posted May 01, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, for Sag Asc, look out for Jupiter transits.And for Cap, look out for Saturn transits

Jupiter is in Cancer right now and should be transiting your 7th/8th house.Are there any changes in your love-life? Maybe feeling like you need to steady things down a little by wanting more intimacy?

Also, since transiting Jupiter affects the 1st house; are you gaining weight or eating more? Cancer is the sign of food and is exalted in Jupiter.

The opposition with Neptune and Uranus suggest a life that may be upside down right now. It is difficult to stabilize anything or be sure of anything at the moment.

With Cap Asc,Saturn is in Scorpio right now and should be transiting your 10th/11th house. Is there more expected from you by others or from yourself career wise? How close do you feel to your friends?

Also since Saturn in Scorpio will be affecting the 1st house, are you more fatalistic than usual? Is everything feeling intensely involving? Scorpio is a sign of depth and could increase your investigative abilities.

Natal Pluto conjunct transiting Saturn(1st house ruler) often indicates an outlook that is staunchly serious and melancholic right now. Does that sound familiar to you?

Compare and contrast to see if you fit with either ruler descriptions and their effects.

The 1st house rulers should make either issues very clear to you.

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posted May 02, 2014 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap ascs do not only care about money.

We care about our financial stability.We have learned the hard way so we care about it a lot,doesn't make us less humanitarian. The difference between Sag and Cap Asc lies in the image that is projected, the way we are perceived, the way we approached various aspects of our lives. Cap Ascs are more reserved, less likely to make friends than a Sag ASc, less likely to trust others, they will approach everything with a greal deal of seriousness that will mellow down as they grow older. Cap ascs are born 'old', they grow 'younger' as they age,whereas Sag Ascs are very publicly oriented when they are young,very care free,they gradually seek solitude when they grow older.

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posted May 02, 2014 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GemBird82:
Sagi rising is usually very fit and with a very low body fat %

Cappy not so much.
Some capricorn Athletes are very fit as well, but their body fat is not that low.
Metabolism is a bit slow also.

On the other hand, some people with Sagi rising tend to love weed, alcohol, tattoos, etc.

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peace


This isn't necessarily true about cap rising. I have almost 0% body fat and my metabolism is VERY fast. I lose weight like nothing. I was also into alcohol and weed, but I am not a sag rising. There are different explanations for these things, not just the rising sign.

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posted May 02, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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oh, are you the guy with the evil eyes? I can't remember.
If so, I highly recommend you to watch the Arnold Classic Contest in YouTube.
I wasn't talking about the superficial way society sees "body fat", but from a competitive perspective.

I bet £2.77 and half a pack of gum you have around 18%-20 body fat.

It's not bad at all.

Yes, there are many explanations for biotypes, but I don't have to be an astrology expert to know that ASC rules our physical body. I made a simple generalization, every Capricorn rising is different, for example:
A cap rising with mars conj jupiter in Gemini and with Sun in the 5th house would be totally opposite to what I said above.

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I find ppl who smoke weed with tons of tattoos kinda interesting

Your Sagittarius energy is totally present in you

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