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posted May 02, 2014 06:20 PM            

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I noticed my generation is really comfortable with intimacy while older generations exclude it only for romantic relationships.

like if parents walk in and see two friends cuddling watching tv or playing video games they assume there is something romantic or sexual going on and it's just that human contact is really comforting.

I don't really feel that close to people I never cuddle with.

Does this have to do with Pluto?

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posted May 02, 2014 07:18 PM            

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I'm 30. Do I qualify as "your" generation? haha

It is a very interesting topic. Just today I was watching a program, where a woman (around 30, actually) was bashed for admitting sleeping with men (well, not for money, but because she felt like it) on a first date. Crowd were like "Women these days... Younger generation have no shame... "4 dates rule"... A man would never marry her after one-night-stand..." and so on. It made me laugh, tbh. I hate rules, I hate stereo types. Who are they to tell me how to feel. You know what, more they restrict, more I wanna do it (must be my Uranus sq Venus, Leo Sun/Mars).

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posted May 02, 2014 08:10 PM            

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I just laugh too whenever I hear that old bit about not sleeping with someone right away because that will ruin everything or whatever. Pretty much every relationship I've seen form between people under 35 has started with sex before dating. I knew one couple who went on several dates before having sex and the whole thing was hilarious and weird to everyone else. So clearly it's just not true anymore, if it ever was.

ETA: And I don't care if they think our generation is slutty or whatever either, we're having a lot more fun.

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posted May 02, 2014 08:16 PM            

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It might be Pluto in Scorpio, although the trend isn't as prevalent in non-Western cultures unfortunately.

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posted May 02, 2014 08:19 PM            

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Old people cuddling and showing affection?

Hippies really never happened in the 60's and 70's or anything.... The younger generations these days invented it!

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posted May 02, 2014 08:20 PM            

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Thinking about it - My son is 15. He is affection towards family but he'd never dream of cuddling with his friends.

I, however, have on occasion cuddled with close friends.

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posted May 02, 2014 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
It might be Pluto in Scorpio, although the trend isn't as prevalent in non-Western cultures unfortunately.

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I definitely think Pluto in Scorpio is largely responsible.

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posted May 02, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Old people cuddling and showing affection?

Hippies really never happened in the 60's and 70's or anything.... The younger generations these days invented it!

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Haha. I was wondering who was going to raise this very obvious point.

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posted May 02, 2014 09:24 PM            

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I think it's mostly white boys (or at least those raised in more affluent areas such as WeHo and Frisco) who are more prone to things like cuddling while sober as being gay isn't seen as the big deal it used to be (not saying cuddling is gay, but that's how many guys would see it which would worry plenty). Among people still very concerned with the "boy code" and all that macho crap then you won't.

Not sure if girls are more platonically affectionate with guys who could be considered romantic interests today or not, but they seem to be as affectionate (and catty) with each other as ever.

What I do know is that it's a bunch of crap of how slutty kids are. I think all generations like to say how the new generations are all bad (perhaps to better forget their own misspent youth), plenty of kids like to exaggerate their own behavior (or that of others) for attention, and the media loves to focus on the worst to sell advertisement space, but going by the statistics comparing the generations the kids have been mostly getting better (fewer pregnancies and drug addicts, less violence and criminal behavior, more literacy and volunteer behavior, etc). I know we have some real sad examples of people on so-called reality shows but I wouldn't call them the majority anymore than the freaks and such have always been (from PT Barnum to Jerry Springer in previous generations, and pretty much as fake as our so-called reality shows today are).

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posted May 02, 2014 09:29 PM            

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Btw, interesting enough men have become less affectionate with each other in Russia. Here in the US plenty of Russians who remain in their own community will still hug and kiss each other on the cheek (at least in church) just as was common a century ago but that's seen as very archaic and old fashion by Russian men (in Russia) today who don't do that anymore.

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posted May 02, 2014 10:26 PM            

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Yeah, the new generation is slutty, but what of it, everything has been going progressively slutty and dumb-down for awhile now. The problem with the older generation, they just covered it up, there was many pregnancies and sex going on but they pretended it didn't exist. Also, people tend to concentrate on the nastier side of life when they are deprived or holding their own natures back, they tend to see nasty things in the most innocent of gestures.

The problem with the new generation, they think sex is the take away, relationships have been going down the drain because people are more physical and less about emotions, understanding, and commitment to knowing another human being on their own terms. Hopefully the new babies coming along will seek a more closer connection then the older generations.

Cuddling is a great way to bond, it brings out strong connections and very beneficial for relationships, at least it's better than violence and war...

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posted May 02, 2014 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
...The problem with the older generation, they just covered it up, there was many pregnancies and sex going on but they pretended it didn't exist. Also, people tend to concentrate on the nastier side of life when they are deprived or holding their own natures back, they tend to see nasty things in the most innocent of gestures...

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You weren't around in the 1960s and 1970s were you?

In other words, I'm not sure what you mean by "older generation," but from my perspective you have to mostly be talking about people born before about 1940-45.

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posted May 02, 2014 10:50 PM            

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My mom was born in the 60s and any time a friend of mine would call me "boo", she would raise eyebrows.. Even if they were girls. If I spent most of my time with any of my friends, we were "dating" because I "spend all my time with them" and when I'm not with them, I'm "constantly texting or calling them". She once even accused me of being in a love triangle with two of my best friends who were dating! I was appalled that she thought I was such a ***** lol. My mother used to speak to her best friends about once a day/once every few days.. So anything more than that, I was hiding a relationship from her lol. That woman was something else. May she rest in peace.

But yes - I do agree that we're more intimate now. Well, maybe we just have better ways to show it more frequently, or maybe we're not more 'intimate', we just treat things more casually.. So we don't save "I love you" for the 6th date or only significant others anymore. Maybe it is Pluto in Scorpio. I've got in in the 7th house and I treat my closest friends like they're family/my lovers. In hindsight, I can see why my mom thought I was dating everyone lol.

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posted May 03, 2014 04:04 AM            

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I'm not comfortable being intimate with people and I'm from the Pluto in Scorpio generation. I can't stand friends touching me or calling me cute names. I see it as unnecessary and/or fake. I cringe when someone tries to hug me. It's different with my partner though.

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posted May 03, 2014 04:28 AM            

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Pluto in Scorpio here.
I'm mighty sexual for someone so virginal lol I literally flirt with everyone

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posted May 03, 2014 08:28 AM            

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It might just be a maturity thing?

I used to be more physical with my friends when I was a teenager and in my early 20's. Like I would sit on my friend's lap, playing with her hair...or sleep right next to my friends, both male and female, at sleepovers. It wasn't sexual, just cozy.

Most of us have Scorpio Uranus and NN, if that matters.

But it's something we all outgrew. Hugs are enough now, and sometimes even hugs are weird and more like a loose circle and pat on the back.

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posted May 03, 2014 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:

Does this have to do with Pluto?

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Nahh I just think it's because you're obviously a "touchy-feely" tactile kind of person (same as me, an "older" generation 49 year old).

It's down to the personality.

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posted May 03, 2014 02:24 PM            

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i agree, it's definitely personality, plus in my opinion if you've done psychedelics you tend to be more comfortable cuddling with anyone and our generation is riding that wave again the same way the 60s generation did.

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