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sag_stellium
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posted May 03, 2014 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you control the negative manifestation of an eclipse when YOU become the villain? How did any eclipse in your history opposite mars or opposite pluto affect you? How do you control yourself when you become the bad guy? Has an eclipse or transit ever made you the bad guy?

The recent eclipse was in my first conjunct sedna+sado opposite natal mars pluto. And I've turned into a monster overnight. It's... awful.

I just intentionally sabotaged the possibility of my recent Taurus ex and some new girl he went out with. When he's still getting over me! It has only been 6 weeks since I broke his heart! And now poor guy feels like his fresh start is ruined and the waters have been muddied. The worst part is I did it by nice to both of them and to another close friend. I used everyone for a cheap high.

But he's still nice and thankful for my supposed favor of telling him silly info. I knew what I was doing. I knew it would hurt him twofold: the harmless thing the girl did and my contact.

This is so middle school! This is not me! And I'm enjoying it. I chose this behavior. I told off one of my close friends ("I can't do this anymore. I need a break.") It was pleasurable. And now this!

And yea, feel free to tell me to get my sh*t together. I can use a little butt kicking.

**edit**
I doubt they're going to be "done" just yet.

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MsPrism
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posted May 03, 2014 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be prepared for your moment of sorrow to come because of some inconsiderate, jealous, insecure, emotionally inept individual trying their best (for no apparent reason) to hurt you.

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sag_stellium
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posted May 03, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Be prepared for your moment of sorrow to come because of some inconsiderate, jealous, insecure, emotionally inept individual trying their best (for no apparent reason) to hurt you.

That is one of my themes this solar return year. Learning why some people get pure pleasure from making me miserable. And apparently now it's time to learn the opposite end of the spectrum.

I'll keep your words in mind when I feel the urge to hurt someone's heart in the near future. This is not what I do normally. They usually have to do something awful for that urge to get triggered.

Can I go off topic and say your warning was beautifully written? Thank you for responding.

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FireMoon
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posted May 03, 2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah the eclipse in Taurus was square my Venus in 8th and my love life is about as classy as an episode of Jersey Shore right now. I found out some interesting info about an ex who is still relentlessly trying to get back together.. I knew he'd cheated but apparently he'd been involved with this girl almost the entire time we were together and had made up some ridiculous story as to why he could rarely see her despite leading her to believe they were also "in a relationship". She didn't know about me and I'm assuming he's still trying to keep his options open and would never be honest so I messaged her on fb and explained everything very bluntly. Not necessarily my place to do that but I did anyway. I wasn't mean in my message in any way but I knew it would sabotage any future chances he had with her. And part of me is seriously tempted to just play mind games with him/lead him on out of revenge, although I know that's not the mature way of handling things. Not to mention there's always karma...

T Saturn is also conjunct my Pluto in 5th widely opposite my Mars. And yeah basically relationships disgust me right now. My social life is also non-existent at the moment partially because I'd rather not explain how much of a mess things have become lately. But I know I'm not the only one with problems and I'm being selfish.. Anyway I've been considering moving abroad to work/volunteer for a while now and have been holding back, but saying f*ck everything to do exactly that is looking like an increasingly real option... Sorry for rambling but just wanted to say I know how you feel lol I'm not necessarily the bad guy in this situation but I can feel the bitterness setting in and need to find some constructive ways of dealing with this anger before it's bottled up and ultimately directed in the wrong ways, which I suppose is the lesson of tSaturn hitting my Mars-Pluto aspect which I love so much lol

You have the conjunction? I'm realizing how destructive mars-pluto can really be if not dealt with in healthy ways, even if it just manifests as self-destruction...

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orocairion
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posted May 03, 2014 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That explains why I sabotaged myself heavily with someone recently...

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LuckyStar
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posted May 03, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyStar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to find out what old astrologers say about a blood red eclipse.

This one was definitely powerful. I had drama on 4/14 that came out of left field and on 4/15 a little bit of explanation which really ticked me off.

Since it was a Libra moon it makes sense that relationships would be affected. I have read it has to do with endings.

Even though you have sabotaged another's relationship just walk away with grace and hope that what's best will come out. It really is their decision if they stop seeing each other.

Don't allow an aspect to make you behave inappropriately, it's your choice and it's your choice to take the high road even though the low road is easier and initially more satisfying. In the end you will hate yourself for what you have become.

Use this as a learning experience.

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MsPrism
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posted May 04, 2014 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sag_stellium:
That is one of my themes this solar return year. Learning why some people get pure pleasure from making me miserable. And apparently now it's time to learn the opposite end of the spectrum.

I'll keep your words in mind when I feel the urge to hurt someone's heart in the near future. This is not what I do normally. They usually have to do something awful for that urge to get triggered.

Can I go off topic and say your warning was beautifully written? Thank you for responding.


You're welcome and thank you.

If it has happened to you in the past then maybe it is really about you understanding your enemies. It's that irony of life when you call someone out on something and then find yourself doing that exact thing, only no one notices. But you notice and you frown thinking "Well, I'm just like them. I'm just as bad."

Please don't do this to yourself again. Just take the message and steel your mind against the pull to sabotage someone's happiness.

Maybe it's a sign that you will not be sabotaged by others as much in the future, if you understand your lesson this time.

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sag_stellium
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posted May 04, 2014 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
...so I messaged her on fb and explained everything very bluntly. Not necessarily my place to do that but I did anyway. I wasn't mean in my message in any way but I knew it would sabotage any future chances he had with her. And part of me is seriously tempted to just play mind games with him/lead him on out of revenge, although I know that's not the mature way of handling things. Not to mention there's always karma...

I hope she uses the truth as opposed to seeing you as the villain. Sometimes, gullibility is a choice. I'm sorry this happened to you! And yea, revenge is a toy we Mars-Plutos like to contemplate using, but we usually (luckily!) have other aspects to knock some sense into us! Karma, like you said. Revenge is appropriate sometimes. But we have to factor our hearts in first. Can we live with ourselves in the long-run knowing who we have become?

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Originally posted by LuckyStar:
Even though you have sabotaged another's relationship just walk away with grace and hope that what's best will come out. It really is their decision if they stop seeing each other.

Don't allow an aspect to make you behave inappropriately, it's your choice and it's your choice to take the high road even though the low road is easier and initially more satisfying. In the end you will hate yourself for what you have become.

Use this as a learning experience.


Choices over eclipses. I will take the high road. Thank you

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FireMoon
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posted May 04, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sag_stellium:
I hope she uses the truth as opposed to seeing you as the villain. Sometimes, gullibility is a choice. I'm sorry this happened to you! And yea, revenge is a toy we Mars-Plutos like to contemplate using, but we usually (luckily!) have other aspects to knock some sense into us! Karma, like you said. Revenge is appropriate sometimes. But we have to factor our hearts in first. Can we live with ourselves in the long-run knowing who we have become?

Yeah I went into it saying I don't have negative intentions towards her and am not blaming her in any way, just trying to let her know what kind of a person he is. So it was actually all very cordial between us... I told him I messaged her and it's hard to explain but I think he was actually relieved because even though he takes no responsibility whatsoever for the situation, he was basically leading her on and didn't want things to become that serious. Usually I'm the one pining after someone who isn't as interested in me, but with him it's the other way around and he won't seem to give up, despite lying and looking for entertainment elsewhere...

All 3 of us are Sag moons being hit by tNeptune except it's exact for me right now. And his Gemini sun is opposite all of our moons lol. Very strange situation to say the least. He should be a part of my past but apparently the lessons haven't been fully learned yet by either of us

Sorry for rambling again it's just nice to vent sometimes...

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