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zirr1
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posted May 06, 2014 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zirr1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I am curious about the relation to having a scorpio moon and having a difficult childhood. I came to this thought after reading many personal stories of people with scorpio moons and, over and over again, seeing stories of those people as children suffering abuse, being their families scapegoat, etc.

I have also read it is a sign of the oldest child, from a mother that wasn't particularly interested in having a child.

I am also curious to having signs passed on from your parents, as I have the ascendent of my mothers sun sign (virgo) and I found out we both have scorpio moons.
In my own personal experience my mother had me at 16 not ready for a child, and I had a lot of problems and abuse in my life growing up. My mother too, had this same issue growing up, and was also the eldest. (Possibly by my mother having me young and never learning anything, I was born under the same signs with the same challenges to face that I never genetically learned from her as she had never learned anything before she had me??)

I understand every sign can have difficulties growing up, but I am wondering about the experience with people having scorpio moons and their childhoods? Also their mother being ready at the time, and if they are the eldest?

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posted May 06, 2014 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats interesting, my mom claimed to never want children...then I came along when she was 20 lol. She is happy for it now.

I had a rough childhood from the ages of about 9-18, I do remember being quite sensitive before then and that cause me a lot of emotional turmoil but things didn't really become "difficult" until I was about 9 and I began to assume the role of a parent ( this happened slowly at first but at around 13 both of my parents worked from 4am and usually weren't home until after midnight) I was using baby sitting money I made on the weekends to help pay bills when I was 14, while all my friends were getting drunk for the first time I was helping my sisters with their homework and learning how to balance a check book. Rough times. I think it goes without saying that I went through extreme depression. I think depression/low self-esteem is more common than most with this placement. One of my little sisters also has moon and Scorp and she too suffers form severe depression.

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Sorry to budge without having this aspect, but I have a friend with this aspect and childhood was so difficult. But strange, not because of the mother, but because of the father , that will drink a lot and be abusive,

that person is still marked badly by the childhood and hates the father

also ran from home since young..
hope it helped

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posted May 06, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zirr1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by happyaskings:

I had a rough childhood from the ages of about 9-18, I do remember being quite sensitive before then and that cause me a lot of emotional turmoil but things didn't really become "difficult" until I was about 9

I think depression/low self-esteem is more common than most with this placement. One of my little sisters also has moon and Scorp and she too suffers form severe depression.


Interesting as I too didn't begin having traumatic experiences until around that age.

It is possibly from the intense feelings but them being cast inward because of it being the moon. Do you think it is possible your mother still wasn't ready/interested for children when she had your sister? I am just curious since reading about scorpio moons being from uninterested mothers.. If you look at this page here you will see what I'm talking about; http://scorpiomoon.tribe.net/thread/1ce730cb-23c6-486e-92ab-c33cf0cf1e9d


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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Sorry to budge without having this aspect, but I have a friend with this aspect and childhood was so difficult. But strange, not because of the mother, but because of the father , that will drink a lot and be abusive,

that person is still marked badly by the childhood and hates the father

also ran from home since young..
hope it helped


So odd as I have been away from home since a very young age too and this is a pattern I see repeatedly among scorpio moons...

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posted May 06, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 06, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has Moon in Scorpio. She had a tremendously difficult childhood. She was the third child of seven, born to an alcoholic father and a depressed mother. She was not abused (they were kind parents, I think) but she was neglected. She also has an Eighth House stellium. My mom knew financial struggles throughout the first half of her life. She got pregnant with my oldest sister when she was 16. She was married to my father for over 20 years and she had to pull a large share of the financial responsibility. After my father died (and when he died he had been sober 19 years), she remarried, and she & her new husband started a business which they have since sold. They are multimillionaires.

My daughter has Moon in Scorpio. She is my first and only child. She is 10 months old. She is happy now, hasn't had a difficult childhood at home with me, but she was born with gastroschisis which is a birth defect where the internal organs are outside baby's body. For the most part things went textbook perfect for her, and to say she is thriving today is an understatement.

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posted May 06, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to add that I was prepared for my daughter's birth; her father and I were trying to conceive a child and were happy when we succeeded.

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posted May 06, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
zirr and happy:

Your difficulties were strong between the ages of 9-18. What can I do to protect my daughter as best I can during her childhood? (0-18)

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posted May 06, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moonram:
zirr and happy:

Your difficulties were strong between the ages of 9-18. What can I do to protect my daughter as best I can during her childhood? (0-18)


Make sure to let her know that her feelings are being validated, I think one of the biggest problems between my mother and I was that a lot of times I didn't feel like I could express myself for fear of feeling stupid or unimportant, this wasn't intentionally done by her it was just that she is a bit "nose to the grind stone" by nature.

Get her involved in something that helps her build self-esteem and makes her feel confident and powerful. Believe it or not, for me it was kickboxing! It really did keep me from tipping over the edge in high school. Everyone gets a boost from exercise but I think Scorpio moons THRIVE off it, it really does seem to bring out the best in us. Coaching soccer has helped my sister tremendously in her battle with depression.

Keep older men AWAY from her!! I don't know if this is a Scorpio moon thing, but I do know other people with this placement that have this problem...there is something about as that attracts men in general but at a young age OLDER MEN in particular to us. I got way too much unwanted attention from teachers and dads that added to my self-esteem issues.

Just let her know that you support her and that she is strong, she is smart, she is important

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charlie
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posted May 06, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see about these mooners....

Ex bf-his dad just up and left family to never be seen or heard from. Pisces Sun. Lovely guy but a tad passive aggressive.

Ex date boy-his biological dad KIDNAPPED, I am not lying, his brother and took off. I don't know entire story but yeah, sad ordeal. Should add that he is an alcoholic with VERY dark sexual....umm....interests. He is Gem Sun.

Ex date boy-closet gay. Controling, rich parents. Very confused human albeit very kind. Pisces Sun.

Mother-abusive father. abusive brother. abusive herself. Scorpio Sun. Alcoholic and mean AS HELL.

Perhaps I should add that I have moon sq pluto and my childhood was hell.

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posted May 06, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has a scorpio moon, she seems to have had a really tough childhood!
Never felt wanted, married @13 just to get away from home....my grandma and her are rarely in speaking terms!
She was the oldest of 6 and by 8 years old was fully responsible for taking care of her younger brothers n sisters. She was molested by her uncle, she had 3 kids by the time she was19 and her teenage marriage was to an abusive jerk, my dad(he was 19, she was 13 when they married)...he left us when she was 19, she proceeded to married an even worse guy!

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posted May 06, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libra5643     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a scorpio moon and can't really relate with how the parents are. I was born into a wealthy family, but i did get bullied a lot as a kid. I'm also the oldest out of 3 other siblings..

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posted May 06, 2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutomercjup20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a Scorpio moon and my parents are both very loving people but my mom told she wasn't ready to have a child when she had me and I was bullied a lot in elementary and middle school but other than that my parens were never abusive or anything but outside of home it was hard.

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posted May 06, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kate August     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's interesting this topic comes up when Saturn is transiting Scorpio. Time to muck out the stables and revisit tough areas of our lives.

I have moon at 10 degrees Scorpio and had a wonderful childhood until I was eight years old. We moved and I had to start a new school and make new friends. I cried so hard the first day, I was almost inconsolable. I was bullied a bit too because I was the new kid and it was awful at times.

I am the oldest child too and my parents weren't ready for me either. I do have a younger daughter with this moon and she was planned and joyfully anticipated!

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posted May 06, 2014 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad someone posted this up. Yes, I've had many childhood difficulties. And I'm the oldest of 3 kids as well. Idk if my parents planned to have me or not, never talked about it. Gosh where do I even begin. I grew up with parents who were abusive towards each other. My earliest memory (probably about 2-3 yrs old) is watching my mom getting beat by my dad, and holding her face against the bars of my crib. I remember it so vividly, as if it was yesterday (I'm 17 now). She was crying and cursing hysterically and my dad was ruthlessly pushing her on the floor, kicking her while she was covering her head. And this was considered normal, growing up. He eventually stopped as I got older, but they still fight like dogs gone rabid. I would always get blamed by my mom, for the cause of her abusive relationship with my dad. "If I never had you, I would never have had to stay with that man. Why did I even have you?" was what she told me at the age of 4. My childhood is kind of a blur to me though. Yes, I experienced terrible things but when I think about it I usually never FEEL anything. Almost as if I'm numb to it. Weird. As for my relationship with my mom right now, it's never been good. Especially when I became a teen (around 13ish), her and I would constantly argue and she was very manipulative. Still is, always will be. If I start to write about her, I wouldn't be able to stop. Let's just say, yes, I do have love for her...but nothing in this world could ever make me like her, trust her, or even open up to her. The fact that she says the most vile things when she is angry (ex: "I hope you get gang-banged and raped brutally by a bunch of black guys") should be reason enough.
But yes, as a Scorpio moon conjunct pluto with moon in 1st house scorpio...my childhood is a pretty ****** up thing to talk about, as is my dysfunctional family.

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Oh please dont let this be true. My 5 year old is a scorpio moon and its in her 12th house ;(

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Originally posted by happyaskings:
Keep older men AWAY from her!! I don't know if this is a Scorpio moon thing, but I do know other people with this placement that have this problem...there is something about as that attracts men in general but at a young age OLDER MEN in particular to us.

OMG I noticed my daughter seems to attract these older men thinking she is so cute and i dont trust them. Store owners give her free candy and she smiles a little seductively. A little sexual type smile and shes only 5!!! I told her today dont smile like that. And she said how? I said just dont smile at these ugly disgusting men. She said okay. Since the day she was born i have had a major fear of older men being near her. When we go to the park i am practically breathing on her neck every second. I once had a horrible dream that she was raped and murdered when she was around 2 years old. I will never leave her with a man alone ever unless its her dad or our uncle. No man will harm my child while i am alive because i will slash their throats. My uncle once scolded me because my curtains were semi transparent. He said i dont want anyone seeing that there is a little girl in this room because he has heard something horrible in the news.

I think we are all protective of her.

She is a stunning little toddler.


Im getting paranoid now ;(

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posted May 07, 2014 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Am also a Scorpio moon 10 degrees. I had a very difficult childhood indeed, and I'm pretty sure my Mom wasn't ready to have me. I'm also the oldest out of my Mom's kids. My parents got divorced when I was 4 and lived in a state of perpetual hate of each other for a long time. My mom went to prison shortly after and my Dad tried convincing me that the many girlfriend's he brought home were my Mom, etc. On my Dad's side we moved around a lot. All in all I think I moved at least 10 times in that many years, so stability was not a thing in my life. I was bullied all throughout Jr High and High school and left with deep deep wounds. Throughout childhood my mother was basically a tyrant, controlling almost every aspect of my life and would constantly get very very angry at me and verbally abuse me. Dad was very emotionally distant and cold. To this day I still have a very hard time truly trusting either of them, and yet they don't get why..

So yeah, Scorpio moon definitely means a troubled childhood.

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posted May 07, 2014 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
OMG I noticed my daughter seems to attract these older men thinking she is so cute and i dont trust them. Store owners give her free candy and she smiles a little seductively. A little sexual type smile and shes only 5!!! I told her today dont smile like that. And she said how? I said just dont smile at these ugly disgusting men. She said okay. Since the day she was born i have had a major fear of older men being near her. When we go to the park i am practically breathing on her neck every second. I once had a horrible dream that she was raped and murdered when she was around 2 years old. I will never leave her with a man alone ever unless its her dad or our uncle. No man will harm my child while i am alive because i will slash their throats. My uncle once scolded me because my curtains were semi transparent. He said i dont want anyone seeing that there is a little girl in this room because he has heard something horrible in the news.

I think we are all protective of her.

She is a stunning little toddler.


Im getting paranoid now ;(


If it makes you feel better, one of my Scorpio moon friends (she's 26) has a loving boyfriend who is only 3 years older than her. If you focus on building her confidence and provide a loving environment, she'll make good choices overall as she grows up and will choose an age appropriate person to be with.

Scorpio, in general, seems to bring about a tough life. However, similar to other placements, it depends on so many different factors. The specific Scorp moon friend I just mentioned has had an amazing life. Her biggest struggle has been understanding math all the way through high school. She has everything in life that I've never had.

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posted May 07, 2014 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kate August     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a tough couple of years for us Scorpio moons - it's never easy to think about this stuff. It has to be done, though, because how much of it is still influencing our lives?

I'm trying to rewrite history with my daughter, moon in Scorpio, 8th house. We have a tight emotional bond and I encourage her to express her feelings, which is difficult for this moon sign.

Some of the stories here make me very sad but if we don't have children of our own we could always heal (becoming a mother helped me a lot) by being an advocate for children. I'm looking into it myself.

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posted May 07, 2014 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in guys. I am a Scorpio Moon at 0° and until I was 8 I had a spectacular childhood. After that family problems started, I found my self growing mature really fast, talking like an adult and raising my brother. I went through a lot and I know things that a kid shouldn't know. My teens were freaky, many problems, no friends at all and constantly bullied at school (and not only). I also had panic attacks and depression. Yes, I'm the oldest in my family, my parents really wanted me, but they were very young and my mam didn't know many things about being a woman. A woman I know also with Scorpio Moon had very serious problems, not sure about her childhood, but her life surely as an adult. They used to be 4 in the family, now they 're only 2.
I have most of my planets in the 8th house and a Moon/Pluto conjunction over there. This aspect and the 8th house made it really difficult to escape my hell, but I did!

My opinion is that the Progressed Moon might be triggering that "special periods". Check your progressed Moon & house at the time difficulties started.

We may have the hardest experiences/memories but this is our challenge, to rebuild all kind of relationships, to die and reborn. After all, is there sth that can really scare you after all these?

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posted May 07, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyStar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the scorpio moons afflicted?

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posted May 07, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio moon in the 8th house over here, and I can identify with abuse and power struggles in childhood, mostly from pretty much everyone; Mom, older brother, other family members, and peers in elementary and high school. Basically I put up with a lot of physical bullying, people wanting to dominate me any way they could, scapegoating, (I often-times had the words "It's all YOUR fault screamed at me)emotional black-mail, the list goes on. I always stood my ground, though, never putting up with anyone's foolishness. Mom claims she was bullied by siblings, peers, and co-workers too, but, it wasn't very often that she would stand up for herself.

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