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posted May 07, 2014 11:31 PM            

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planets in first house vs planets in 12th conjunct asc..Which one is stronger in appearance/ personality? why and what are your experiences?

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posted May 07, 2014 11:40 PM            

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When a planet is conjunct the ascendant from the dark side (twelfth house) it is said to be in a void of sorts, invisible, and it's power is warped even though it is stronger since it is conjunct the point of Aries.
If it is conjunct the ascendant from the light side, the first house, the planet is strong, angular, and functions for better or worse depending on aspects. It is strengthened.

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posted May 08, 2014 09:44 PM            

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Thanks!

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posted May 08, 2014 09:52 PM            

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posted May 09, 2014 01:43 AM            

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mine is an interesting case, with my sun in the 12th and my mars in the 1st…all tight together. fitting with the dual nature of gemini, i truly feel like i have exist in the 12th and have in the 1st….and they are sooo different from each other!

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posted May 09, 2014 02:10 AM            

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posted May 09, 2014 02:15 AM            

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I have to disagree. My Mars is on the dark side-28 Virgo-and is SUPER strong in me! I am a Martian Bulldozer in all I do! Men, sex, sports, work, friends, food. I plough life as if tomorrow will never come.

Now, I also have Mars semi sq. Sun AND Moon so this would also add to it I assume?

p.s. the ONLY thing that is not as forward is my direct anger because I know that when I release it things will get really bad and I will not stop until my point is understood. I prefer to be "zen" and manage 9/10 times but that 1 time? Watch out.

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posted May 09, 2014 02:51 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
When a planet is conjunct the ascendant from the dark side (twelfth house) it is said to be in a void of sorts, invisible, and it's power is warped even though it is stronger since it is conjunct the point of Aries.
If it is conjunct the ascendant from the light side, the first house, the planet is strong, angular, and functions for better or worse depending on aspects. It is strengthened.

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thats a good explanation, but i asking first house and not conjunct to the asc. Or is it considered conjunct when it's in the first house? sorry if this is a stupid question

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posted May 09, 2014 06:55 AM            

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I have jupiter in 12th conjunct AC and Saturn in 1st conjunct AC too , same orb at 3° to AC.

I could tell you that I am miserable by saturn that almost no shining light of the jupiter

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posted May 09, 2014 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Libra5643:
thats a good explanation, but i asking first house and not conjunct to the asc. Or is it considered conjunct when it's in the first house? sorry if this is a stupid question

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The ascendant is the strongest part of the first house since it is a cusp so if planets, luminaries, nn, sn, are conjunct, they are stronger and emphasized. If they are just in the first house, they are still strong because they are in an angular house. The ascending degree is strongest.

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posted May 09, 2014 07:07 PM            

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The ascendant is the strongest part of the first house since it is a cusp so if planets, luminaries, nn, sn, are conjunct, they are stronger and emphasized. If they are just in the first house, they are still strong because they are in an angular house. The ascending degree is strongest.[/B] [/QUOTE]

I see. What if someone is born with a planet in the first house not conjunct asc and then the ascendant progresses to the same degree and conjuncts planet? what effects would this give?

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posted May 10, 2014 04:16 AM            

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I have jupiter in 12th house conjunct my ascendant, I don't feel it's dark over me…I feel very lucky with many things, great opportunities comes into my life pretty often, especially in love.
Right now I have just had a close transit too with jupiter conjunction ascendant, it's a very wonderful aspect to have both nataly, in synastry and in transit!

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posted May 10, 2014 02:35 PM            

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I have this too

Jupiter is happy in the 12th
Saturn is not happy in the 1st.

Is Saturn in Capricorn?
Is Jupiter?

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