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amelia28
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posted May 10, 2014 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious......
I dont know time of birth so I focused on aspects:

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posted May 10, 2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Image is better

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posted May 10, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Image is better

You mean you prefer the wheel part of the chart?

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posted May 10, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 10, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing that strikes me are all the trines to all the planets except the sun..

Talented person, maybe a little lazy, but talented and gifted...but also very frustrated as his Salarian aspect will take time to manifest..

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posted May 10, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
First thing that strikes me are all the trines to all the planets except the sun..

Talented person, maybe a little lazy, but talented and gifted...but also very frustrated as his Salarian aspect will take time to manifest..


Interesting....what is a salarian aspect?

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posted May 10, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant Solarian as in the nature of the person as corresponding to the Sun princinple...what the physical life force or vitality of the person is tied too..

For example: A Capricorn needs to be moving along with his plans...if he strays too long away from them he whither and feels lost and loss.

A Scorpio needs intensity and transformation...they can't just be too light all the time or else their vitality drains.

A Libra needs to be asserting themselves according to a paradigm of balance and symmetry.

The solarian aspect can't always be present...there needs to be night and day, but how the person shines in their own internal day is the light made upon the moon as the "internal" sun sets...and then the moon is how they sustain into the dream world.

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posted May 10, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the case above...it seems that what brings vitality to the person may not initially be his passions or talents...

I have a similar sun, although it has some sextiles, which is has tense aspects to my mars and venus and it has taken me 29 years to figure out what I like and I still don't entirely know...

In the meantime...planning for the future gives me vitality, hope, and faith that it will come together...

With this person I see they have even more trines but also even harder aspects to their sun...and even moon...so they are driven.

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posted May 10, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
In the case above...it seems that what brings vitality to the person may not initially be his passions or talents...

I have a similar sun, although it has some sextiles, which is has tense aspects to my mars and venus and it has taken me 29 years to figure out what I like and I still don't entirely know...

In the meantime...planning for the future gives me vitality, hope, and faith that it will come together...

With this person I see they have even more trines but also even harder aspects to their sun...and even moon...so they are driven.


Great insights on both responses...btw you come off as someone who could be a good teacher...IDK just putting it out there. Thank you.

Would you say that sextiles, trines, quintiles and Biquintiles are talents and gifts and squares equate with drive bc challenge drives people....??

How do you view oppositions?? I have read that usually a third party plays out the opposition for the native that has it...and that oppositions are about compromise and finding a balance....
How would you differentiate between squares and oppositions??


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posted May 10, 2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares vs. Opposition.

In terms of feeling...An opposition is a pulling feeling with the native I believe and a square is more like a feeling of being pushed aside.

Yes..another person may embody one side of the opposition if the person is highly polarized both an individual and collective level.

Squares are a matter of integration and time. An opposition is an either or proposition which doesn't have to be but is in the mind of the native.

For example...I have many ideas about what I want to do but never have the time...I have to learn to adapt and figure out how to make more time. That is why a square is associated with saturn...it is a matter of integration and refinement...and pushes the native to seek a sollution.

It's like having to study really hard for law school. You ahve to put everything aside for a few years. But if you can do it, and you don't fall into the pits, you might find later on you have more time to do what you wanted to do...you are benefiting from the square! A square is like transforming negative karma (oh why me!) into positive karma (the challenge is done with and now I am free!).

So a square is quite literally, to me like a dance. It's a matter of putting something aside, and then picking it up again. At first, you feel consumed by the challenge. But then you change your diet it, wake up two hours earlier, and stop going out on weekends....to integrate all your separate parts...

Not everyone is like this...some people don't have a lot of squares..their cool with working and partying...or just doing a few things...they're fine with watching t.v. and working.

A person with squares is not fine with that. They have to integrate the different aspects...in the long run they bloom!

An opposition is ever present. An opposition between Saturn in Chiron for example might make the native seem like he is of two worlds. If he's fully integrated he may be the guy in the suit who is an astrologer....A venus mars opposition is like the athlete who gets pedicures...or knits...or likes to make music.

My opposition is always present. If I don't take a step back and ask myself what I'm projecting and what Is actuallt coming from the other person I wille xternalize it.

Note: this is no easy task...there are many people who are brilliant geniuses but they project...this is the spiritual muscle that Carl Jung had but Albert Einstein lacked(or else he would have never helped develop weapons of mass destruction)....This is about introspection....and not acting out on anger...

Note: this is hard as hell to do because anger is biological. We literally have to learn to control our breathing in order to stop projecting...it is literally a wholistic way of living..

It's like the person who is a vegetarian trying to force the person who eats meat to stop eating meat. She's projecting. She can't force that on another...she or he has literally become a tyrant in her quest to stop people from hurting animals.

So the squares are kind of like obstalces around the corners of our existence and the oppositions are internal conflicts which force us to reconsider our positions....both of them lead to evolution.

The trines are like raw talents or gifts...like rich parents maybe who fully support you. Without any squares you will probably just become a bum....I know someone with many trines and oppositions but no squarees and they blame everyone else around them and are total bums...

but anyways...

I have thought about being a teacher...but I could never do it...I could never work in the school system as it is today. I do not believe in it with my heart and all my energy would dissipate. As for teaching esoteric things, I've thought about it and I could never do that either because I myself am not sure of what I'm saying. I go by the signs...

But thank you...others have told me that and I consider it a huge compliment.

Maybe one day, if the world turns, I can do it...

Remember prometheus and chiron were eternally tortured for what they taught...ID o not wish to go down that path...but maybe a sollution will present itself one day.


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posted May 10, 2014 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Great insights on both responses...btw you come off as someone who could be a good teacher...IDK just putting it out there. Thank you.

Would you say that sextiles, trines, quintiles and Biquintiles are talents and gifts and squares equate with drive bc challenge drives people....??

How do you view oppositions?? I have read that usually a third party plays out the opposition for the native that has it...and that oppositions are about compromise and finding a balance....
How would you differentiate between squares and oppositions??



Quintiles and biquintiles I'm still trying to figure out.

I think they give a person endless amounts of energy to do certain things...it's like an avalanche of perpetual motion for any given thing...

I have moon quintile chiron and I have Jupiter biquintile my ascendant...and that's what it feels like to me........

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posted May 10, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Squares vs. Opposition.

The trines are like raw talents or gifts...like rich parents maybe who fully support you. Without any squares you will probably just become a bum....I know someone with many trines and oppositions but no squarees and they blame everyone else around them and are total bums...



I know someone with many oppositions, followed by conjunctions and one sextile and two trines and no squares at all and she has very very severe schizophrenia. There is no hope for this lady; she is gone in another world; like a personal hell on earth.


I know someone that has a lot of squares all over and he feels overwhelmed but he doesn't give up and gets back up always and tries again and keeps trying (has a cardinal tsquare between 11,5,8 houses), he has a lot of mood swings but I feel he just has to build up coping skills, get his **** together and put in the work to do both and he will be fine....is like you said he will have time for fun later and feel free but first he has a lot of homework to do; he also has the drive to keep trying until he is were he wants to be..he is very motivated to find solutions and figure things out.

I am starting to see that ratio between trines, sextiles, squares and oppositions matters....too much of one thing leads to problems or the absence of one.


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posted May 10, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I know someone with many oppositions, followed by conjunctions and one sextile and two trines and no squares at all and she has very very severe schizophrenia. There is no hope for this lady; she is gone in another world; like a personal hell on earth.


I know someone that has a lot of squares all over and he feels overwhelmed but he doesn't give up and gets back up always and tries again and keeps trying (has a cardinal tsquare between 11,5,8 houses), he has a lot of mood swings but I feel he just has to build up coping skills, get his **** together and put in the work to do both and he will be fine....is like you said he will have time for fun later and feel free but first he has a lot of homework to do; he also has the drive to keep trying until he is were he wants to be..he is very motivated to find solutions and figure things out.

I am starting to see that ratio between trines, sextiles, squares and oppositions matters....too much of one thing leads to problems or the absence of one.


Excellent examples. I am also learning. The ratio certainly matters I guess. Oppositions are I believe can make a person feel schizophrenic. It's like a constant internal argument. When the middle path is founds its like a release so that you can do what you have to do...work or whatever...even play..

the tension is like a string pulled back...shooting a bow of forward motion.

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posted May 10, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Squares vs. Opposition.


It's like the person who is a vegetarian trying to force the person who eats meat to stop eating meat. She's projecting. She can't force that on another...she or he has literally become a tyrant in her quest to stop people from hurting animals.

So the squares are kind of like obstacles around the corners of our existence and the oppositions are internal conflicts which force us to reconsider our positions....both of them lead to evolution.

The trines are like raw talents or gifts...like rich parents maybe who fully support you. Without any squares you will probably just become a bum....I know someone with many trines and oppositions but no squarees and they blame everyone else around them and are total bums...

but anyways...

I have thought about being a teacher...but I could never do it...I could never work in the school system as it is today. I do not believe in it with my heart and all my energy would dissipate. As for teaching esoteric things, I've thought about it and I could never do that either because I myself am not sure of what I'm saying. I go by the signs...

But thank you...others have told me that and I consider it a huge compliment.

Maybe one day, if the world turns, I can do it...

Remember prometheus and chiron were eternally tortured for what they taught...ID o not wish to go down that path...but maybe a sollution will present itself one day.


Are you libertarian by any chance or anarcho capitalist?

I can relate to your lack of motivation in working with a system you don't belief in or want to feed and help make stronger......its a big part of the reason why what I do does not fulfil me fully and why I want to have my own business....

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posted May 10, 2014 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if this person is male or female. Or their age.

This person has a passion for beauty and the arts. (They may or may not be artistic themselves)

This person is likely to make good money as they get older.

This person probably has a pretty good social circle (though hard to know for sure without birth time)

If this person is male and heterosexual he may be considered quite the ladies man.

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posted May 10, 2014 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Don't know if this person is male or female. Or their age.

This person has a passion for beauty and the arts. (They may or may not be artistic themselves)

This person is likely to make good money as they get older.

This person probably has a pretty good social circle (though hard to know for sure without birth time)

If this person is male and heterosexual he may be considered quite the ladies man.


She is a 50 year old female who loves shopping smart, always on the look out for sales, and who prides herself on her good taste, charm and manners. She takes pride on her presentation and likes others to take pride on their presentation as well.

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She has a very fun charming social side but she is also very rigid and by the book.

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