posted May 11, 2014 02:53 PM            

Anybody has valuable information you can share on combusts in general or pluto combust???

posted May 11, 2014 05:54 PM            

For instance, I'm very lucky in life. Fortune is given to me often and I don't really have to worry about much. I've had bad things happen but they don't keep me down and I always look on the bright side.

My 9th House has Saturn in it and I think that adds to my reluctance in joining a religious group and my desire in being an authority on it for myself.

I'm very open minded about other people believing whatever works for them. Although, I do want people to believe in something that makes them a better person, better as in being more compassionate and understanding of differences, though not without a backbone by any means.

posted May 11, 2014 08:24 PM            

lets take a look at jesse ventura for example. his sun is somewhat modest, timid position, mars in cancer isn't exactly a masculine placement either by no means. But Jesse Ventura is the pinnacle of masculinity. The Martian qualities in him are beyond obvious. The guy is a former navy seal, governor, pro wrestler-and is looked at as somewhat of a superhero.
This BUCK or scrappy nature to him is due to his mars and sun conjunction. The Sun is the soul and Mars is the fighter. When conjunct, the energy of mars is forged into the Sun(the soul) and produces a true warrior. My gf has this placement at the same 23 degrees cancer. Same warrior mentality. No fear, none.

I notice this with other planets as well, such as Saturn. I notice a lot of athiests are saturn-sun conjunct.

So I'd take that combust theory right out the window...

posted May 11, 2014 10:11 PM            

but sun is enemies with venus-saturn- and rahu/ketu

I'd assume Uranus and probably neptune.

posted May 11, 2014 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by SerpeantKing:
Yeah any Astrological claim that planets become "combust" or hidden-or weak is absolutely ludacris- and anyone who believes this really needs to look at a lot of sun-mars conjunct people and they will quickly change their mind.

lets take a look at jesse ventura for example. his sun is somewhat modest, timid position, mars in cancer isn't exactly a masculine placement either by no means. But Jesse Ventura is the pinnacle of masculinity. The Martian qualities in him are beyond obvious. The guy is a former navy seal, governor, pro wrestler-and is looked at as somewhat of a superhero.
This BUCK or scrappy nature to him is due to his mars and sun conjunction. The Sun is the soul and Mars is the fighter. When conjunct, the energy of mars is forged into the Sun(the soul) and produces a true warrior. My gf has this placement at the same 23 degrees cancer. Same warrior mentality. No fear, none.

I notice this with other planets as well, such as Saturn. I notice a lot of athiests are saturn-sun conjunct.

So I'd take that combust theory right out the window...

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combusts to mars are beneficial I read in another link!!! but combusts to mercury, venus or saturn which is what the person I am looking at are not and her case makes it very obvious why and no I cant go over the details of her life or her behavior, its confidential and I respect this person and would be friends with her but I see how the combusts affect her clearly.

posted May 11, 2014 10:22 PM            

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Originally posted by SerpeantKing:
Yeah any Astrological claim that planets become "combust" or hidden-or weak is absolutely ludacris- and anyone who believes this really needs to look at a lot of sun-mars conjunct people and they will quickly change their mind.

lets take a look at jesse ventura for example. his sun is somewhat modest, timid position, mars in cancer isn't exactly a masculine placement either by no means. But Jesse Ventura is the pinnacle of masculinity. The Martian qualities in him are beyond obvious. The guy is a former navy seal, governor, pro wrestler-and is looked at as somewhat of a superhero.
This BUCK or scrappy nature to him is due to his mars and sun conjunction. The Sun is the soul and Mars is the fighter. When conjunct, the energy of mars is forged into the Sun(the soul) and produces a true warrior. My gf has this placement at the same 23 degrees cancer. Same warrior mentality. No fear, none.

I notice this with other planets as well, such as Saturn. I notice a lot of athiests are saturn-sun conjunct.

So I'd take that combust theory right out the window...

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posted May 11, 2014 10:29 PM            

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ventura,_Jesse

posted May 11, 2014 11:27 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I don’t get it. The distance between Sun and these planets is so great, how can it combust them ? I think some of these “concepts” are invented by astrologers themselves for $$$$ , “How can I get rid of the negative effects of this combustion?”...“Buy the stone named as asdasdasd...ermm..it’s available in my shop.”

My Mercury and Saturn are combust, both by less than a degree. Would that make it a “Cazimi” instead ? I’m not an atheist. I’m not logical and I don’t follow any principles either. Then again, all of those planets are in Pisces. Oh but I may be mentally ill, they square Pluto. But aren’t most of us mentally ill? half of these so called “sane” people have buried their insanity deep down, and if you dig deep, *poof* their “sanity” will be gone. Anyway, I’m highly curious and it lands me in trouble most of the time. Pholus opposing that conjunction/“combustion” doesn’t help much.

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That would be a cazime which is suppose to be a strength actually!

I would love to have a cazime as I wonder how that is like.....

I am not pointing fingers, I am very curious and love the mentally ill....

I am moody myself and have an afflicted moon but my moon is part of a tsquare and it Biquintiles pluto and quintiles chiron. In addition I have strong pluto and strong jupiter so I have what it takes to deal with my "afflicted moon."

Its obviously complicated and the whole chart has to be looked at closely so my intention is not to get people to feel like I am picking on them bc I am not! I have my own challenges. I am not better than anyone and I am just seeking understanding and honesty.

posted May 11, 2014 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I don’t get it. The distance between Sun and these planets is so great, how can it combust them ? I think some of these “concepts” are invented by astrologers themselves for $$$$ , “How can I get rid of the negative effects of this combustion?”...“Buy the stone named as asdasdasd...ermm..it’s available in my shop.”

My Mercury and Saturn are combust, both by less than a degree. Would that make it a “Cazimi” instead ? I’m not an atheist. I’m not logical and I don’t follow any principles either. Then again, all of those planets are in Pisces. Oh but I may be mentally ill, they square Pluto. But aren’t most of us mentally ill? half of these so called “sane” people have buried their insanity deep down, and if you dig deep, *poof* their “sanity” will be gone. Anyway, I’m highly curious and it lands me in trouble most of the time. Pholus opposing that conjunction/“combustion” doesn’t help much.

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posted May 11, 2014 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Wait wait.......combusts are conjunctions less than 5 degree orbs involving the sun......you mention squares....that is not a combust.

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posted May 12, 2014 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

sun square pluto at 3 or 4 degrees orb or less are mentally ill. I am looking into this and will continue observing....

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posted May 12, 2014 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Plz forgive my mercury retro. and Neptune in 3rd

Oh I was responding to this. It is a combustion (Sun conjunct Mercury and Saturn by less than a degree), Pluto squares those planets, that’s what I was trying to say. I think experiencing it yourself would be better, when T. Sun conjuncts your personal planets by less than 5 degrees.

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Cazimi. A planet within 0°17' of the Sun's longitude is said to be "in the heart of the Sun" - or Cazimi. Ancient authorities deemed that it fortified the planet as much as a Combust position debilitated it; but modern authorities generally ignore the distinction and classify it as combust, imparting to the nature a one-track viewpoint on all matters appertaining to the planet so placed.

I am rooting for cazimi been a strength, I have never met someone with a cazimi I don think! I am thinking is a strength most likely.

posted May 12, 2014 03:01 AM            

I noticed the same thing.

posted May 12, 2014 05:13 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

That could be a Cazimi:

Cazimi. A planet within 0°17' of the Sun's longitude is said to be "in the heart of the Sun" - or Cazimi. Ancient authorities deemed that it fortified the planet as much as a Combust position debilitated it; but modern authorities generally ignore the distinction and classify it as combust, imparting to the nature a one-track viewpoint on all matters appertaining to the planet so placed.

I am rooting for cazimi been a strength, I have never met someone with a cazimi I don think! I am thinking is a strength most likely.

Your sun conjunct mercury and sun conjunct Saturn are at what degrees exactly? almost exact? or exact?

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Sun conjuncts them by more than 17 minutes, both of them are combust, but different astrologers use different orbs.

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The planets are considered combust when they have following longitudinal difference with the Sun on either side:
Moon 12 degrees
Mars 17 degrees
Mercury 14 deg
Venus 10 deg
Jupiter 11 deg
Saturn 15 deg

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posted May 12, 2014 05:22 AM            

I relate to traditional descriptions, not the one given on this site though. It's been a few months that I'm trying to learn traditional astrology and it's started making more sense. The site is a vedic astrology site and should be used with a vedic chart, not with a tropical one.

Any planet within 8 1/2 degrees of the Sun on either side is combust. Any planet beyond 8 1/2 but within 15 degrees is under the Sun's beams. Any planet within 17 minutes of Sun's longitude is cazimi. Cazimi is said to strengthen a planet and is an accidental dignity while the other two weaken. There's much debate on whether mars can be combust or not since it's hot and fiery in nature. Moon combust is said to be one of the most unfortunate events. A separating conjunction is better than an applying one. However, attention should also be paid to whether the combust planet is making a phases within 7 days after the person's birth. Any planet that makes phases (becomes visible after combustion) is strengthened. eg: Einstein's mercury though combust by traditional descriptions makes phases and he was known for his intellect.

Combustion is a traditional concept and Uranus, Neptune and Pluto don't count.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun and the former acts in the Sun's service. It usually comes with good and bad to it. For example: Venus combust can be a beautiful woman trapped in a bad marriage. Mercury combust could be a good writer (eg: Morin) who is too caught up in his own opinion and isn't open to new ideas and doesn't process criticism well.

Venus under the Sun's beams and I've an unstable love life. It rules my 9H and I deviated from religion which was a bad thing according to classical astrologers. I'm not very feminine. I also have Venus sextile Ascendant which gives me dimples and technically, dimples are a defect.

Mars combust and I'm argumentative and defensive which is a bad thing marriage wise (Sun rules my 7H). But I'm good at martial arts. Mars rules my 3H of school life which was messed up. It also traditionally rules my 10H/MC and I've no idea about what I want to do in life.

posted May 12, 2014 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by depth:
I've Mars combust and Venus/Mercury under the Sun's beams moving towards combustion.

I relate to traditional descriptions, not the one given on this site though. It's been a few months that I'm trying to learn traditional astrology and it's started making more sense. The site is a vedic astrology site and should be used with a vedic chart, not with a tropical one.

Any planet within 8 1/2 degrees of the Sun on either side is combust. Any planet beyond 8 1/2 but within 15 degrees is under the Sun's beams. Any planet within 17 minutes of Sun's longitude is cazimi. Cazimi is said to strengthen a planet and is an accidental dignity while the other two weaken. There's much debate on whether mars can be combust or not since it's hot and fiery in nature. Moon combust is said to be one of the most unfortunate events. A separating conjunction is better than an applying one. However, attention should also be paid to whether the combust planet is making a phases within 7 days after the person's birth. Any planet that makes phases (becomes visible after combustion) is strengthened. eg: Einstein's mercury though combust by traditional descriptions makes phases and he was known for his intellect.

Combustion is a traditional concept and Uranus, Neptune and Pluto don't count.

In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun and the former acts in the Sun's service. It usually comes with good and bad to it. For example: Venus combust can be a beautiful woman trapped in a bad marriage. Mercury combust could be a good writer (eg: Morin) who is too caught up in his own opinion and isn't open to new ideas and doesn't process criticism well.

Venus under the Sun's beams and I've an unstable love life. It rules my 9H and I deviated from religion which was a bad thing according to classical astrologers. I'm not very feminine. I also have Venus sextile Ascendant which gives me dimples and technically, dimples are a defect.

Mars combust and I'm argumentative and defensive which is a bad thing marriage wise (Sun rules my 7H). But I'm good at martial arts. Mars rules my 3H of school life which was messed up. It also traditionally rules my 10H/MC and I've no idea about what I want to do in life.

Mercury under the Sun's beams and I'm opinionated bordering on self-righteous. At the same time, I'm a good researcher and quick learner. It rules my 5H and I don't like children. It also rules my 8H and I think too much about sex which makes me kind off unchaste according to traditional astrologers.

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Thank You!!!

This is super helpful on so on point, you hit it right in the nail and have definitely help me understand much better combusts.

The person that inspired me to start this thread has mercury, venus and saturn combust in virgo and I suspect based on her history that all fall on her 8th house...and I agree it comes with its good things but its problems too...

e.g. she is a very beautiful woman for example but none of her relationships have lasted, she has gotten married several times but her relationships have not lasted more than a few months. I dont think it helps that all her combusts planets are in virgo bc it makes her really picky on top of it all. She is smart but she is not smart at the same time. She has difficulty communicating; often contradicting herself but she is simultaneously educated and intellectual although has poor judgment...so yeah combusts are complicated but they definitely give you good clues as to the challenges an individual deals with.