posted May 13, 2014 10:55 AM            

They belief in one love it seems and they seem to open up truly just once and sabotage all other relationships that come their way after . They never trust in that deep level again.

Its sad but that is a tendency I have observed so far. To be fair they seem content single.

In your case your guy has venus in scorpio and on on top of it in the 8th retrograde aspecting saturn so I imagine he is super guarded and will never let a relationship get to close specially if he did already do that once......

Venus retrograde feels awkward in the courting stages but just venus in scorpio is a challenge specially retrograde in the 8th aspecting saturn! Ouch.

posted May 13, 2014 10:59 AM            

Venus Retrograde in Scorpio

With Venus in Scorpio and retrograde, there can be an intense need for privacy in the love life. Deep fears of rejection can be present, and relationships are taken very seriously. People with this position often reject traditional gender roles and relationships. There can be some resistance and hesitancy about entering a new relationship, but once established, retrograde Venus in Scorpio natives can stick around for a long time, even if the relationship is challenged or toxic.

posted May 13, 2014 11:00 AM            

He has been cheated on 2x by his past 2 girlfriends and even though he didn't want to let me go, he wasn't giving me what I needed either

He was so detached and noncommital. Honestly it felt like he couldn't see past his own hurts to realize I really did care.

posted May 13, 2014 11:01 AM            

There is a tendency to internalize hurts, working things out, within, unlike the direct Venus will work things out, externally. Often the retrograde Venus will over react, and exaggerate the effect. There is a strong reaction to the imperfections of the love, or loves, of their life, and the path of love doesn't run smoothly.

Sometimes, they are overly self conscious and wonder if they are getting enough attention. They also aren't positive about their likes and dislikes. They may be deeply in love, and not realize it until the relationship has been over for ten years! They go through similar patterns, all designed to deny themselves what they believe they really need. This pre-programs relationships to often result in the same disappointments, turning into a vicious cycle.

As some accept retrogrades, mostly as doing things over, dealing with some Karmic experience. The retrograde Venus is often the result of a painful love or great misunderstanding, or intense hurt, that these people are actually protecting themselves from reliving.

It seems they cannot experience the richness of love, completely, in this lifetime because of the deep fear or feeling the pain all over again. They may even try to fit into a relationship of the distant past and fit it to today, which is an attempt to regain the love lost, usually ending with more disappointment and loneliness.

posted May 13, 2014 11:18 AM            

Retrograde planets are seemingly moving backward due to the earth's greater speed. Retrograde planets are RE-treating, RE-considering, RE-evaluating,...

When Venus in the horoscope is retrograde, it does NOT deny love, it does NEVER prevent you from (falling in) love; it only delays it. However, the native will also have to live with denial, frustration and maladjustment re matters of love.

Also, bonding with someone who has natal Venus retrograde takes TIME!

A direct moving Venus loves socializing, but when it's retrograde, it becomes more introvert and shy and retreats in a harmonious environment.

When Venus is just in front of a house cusp and about to enter it but due to its retrograde motion will not enter the house, it will hold back and will not take part in the matters of that house.

This can be very frustrating a position because it might bring defeat and the not realization of desires (often love because Venus is the planet of love). Very often, there is some secret involved too, be it a secret love or something that has to do with the lover.

Retrograde Venus in the horoscope may represent a lover who has been rejected, sent away or who is quite lazy (not taking part in anything). Indeed, the archetypal Venus in itself is a passive planet and when Venus turns back (and inward), it may become self-sufficient, passive and "lazy."

when Venus changes its course and turns backward; it becomes more focused on itself, becomes more "materialistic" and physical. Retrograde Venus in such a position shies away from people and socializing and tries to find harmony, beauty and love in itself through material goods and tangible things, the more so if Venus is an evening star.

In all instances though, retrograde Venus makes more shy, more reactive in relationships and lives love on an inner level; without showing it outwardly. Love can be manifested in a material way (giving presents or gifts) though, instead of saying it with words.

Also, Venus retrograde becomes more suspicious when other people openly manifest their love. Retrograde Venus is in doubt if this is "real love."

Retrograde Venus in Leo, the sign of love, is in quite good a position because Leo is a charming and creative sign that loves beautiful things which Venus loves too. Venus in Leo brings artistic flair and productive needs.

Planets in retrogression are almost always in a learning phase and here too, with Venus retrograde, there is something BIG to learn about love and relationships in general.

When Venus in the horoscope turns backward and becomes more materialistic, it might affect your income and/or budget. Love becomes expensive...

In horary astrology planets turning retrograde have a specific meaning because the planets almost always represent a specific person or object.

It's amazing how often this principle works in natal astrology too but you MUST take into account that the general signification of a planet comes after the rulerships. The rulerships are primordial in that any ruler of the house stands for the person signified by that house.

For example: the ruler of the 7th house is the significator of your partner. Venus only comes second.

When the planet changes direction by going retrograde, the person that is signified by the re-trograde planet, re-considers, re-thinks, re-conciles, re-peats, re-builds, re-coups, re-adjusts, re-collects, re-pulses, re-fuses, re-sists, re-paints, re-decorates, re-adjusts...

In other words, the situation almost always gets RE-VERSED.

If Venus represents your lover, (s)he might turn his/her back on you. Retrograde Venus may reject you (as will any retrograde ruler of the 7th house).

We very much like the way Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson, one of the most brilliant astrologers that ever existed, explains the signification of a planet turning retrograde: a planet retrograde will not reveal his nature entirely, keep much to themselves (on the inner plane). "There is always more there than meets the eye", is her motto.

Moreover, any retrograde planet signifies somebody who is possibly ill or in a "poor condition." A retrograde planet holds back and is averse to entering "your house", she also adds in different of her books.

Her keyword for retrograde planets is SHYNESS, especially with Venus, planet of relationships and social interactions retrograde.

So, what can we learn from this?

If natal Venus is retrograde, expect a lover to not reveal him- or herself to the full. Possibly you will meet someone who is ill or in a rather unfortunate situation. The same holds true if the ruler of the 7th house is retrograde in your natal chart!

Another misconception about retrograde Venus in the horoscope is that some authors claim it brings homosexuality in male horoscopes. We have not found this to be true at all!

In the natal chart of a male person, Venus retrograde almost always points to a very deep friendship or love union with a female born under the Sun signs of Taurus or Libra or with predominant Taurus or Libra traits.

One of the basic principles in astrology is that transiting planets in your natal chart are "players" coming from "outward" into your life. Mercury, the messenger, is the postman or a document or a letter that you get. Venus represents a woman or a beloved one or a gift/parcel...

As such, transiting Venus turning backward denotes a beloved one or a woman who is ill, or unfortunate or who is rejected or sent away or for whom the situation is reversed.

posted May 13, 2014 11:36 AM            

This is why I am always going back and forth internally questioning if I want to be with someone or not......I have high ideals and a history of breaking up and then changing my mind and this goes on and on; back and forth.

I no longer break up but that is bc I am involved with someone who sees me, recognizes that I want to break up when conflict arise or I feel disillusioned and that I am being impulsive and is how I feel at that moment but not later.

I reconsider, doubt a lot and wonder if I should break up or not and this applies to my ex who I was madly in love with and stupidly broke up out of impulse......I had no idea that it was my Natal mercury why I am crazy in relationships and change my mind so much but now that I am 30 I just keep my reconsidering and doubts to myself and have accepted that is just how I am wired.

Ex: He was a scorpio and I had saturn, northnode and jupiter transiting my 7th when I met him...I also had T Chiron conjuncting Neptune. It was quite the encounter: vertex and northnode conjunctions in synastry involved as well, moon conjunct moon, psyche conjunct sun, composite stellium in libra, venus/mars trines and sextiles and it goes on