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Topic: Declinations....How can I get the calculations for this?
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2708 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 07:14 PM
How Can I find out if my venus is out of bound??I have searched and astroweekly can do it free but the box to input information is not there.... Anyone has any good links or knows how I can get these calculations. Thanks. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5468 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 13, 2014 07:58 PM
Astro.com, your usual chart drawing (extended chart selection) , click on additional tables (pdf). IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3430 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 08:06 PM
When you put your chart in on Astro.com, it will say "Additional Tables (PDF)" on the top right.After that, check the the declinations; they will be on the right, next to the degrees. To tell if a planet is out of bound, check if the declination is passed 23 degrees (any direction), and if it's passed 23 degrees, it's out of bounds IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2708 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 08:24 PM
OMG thank you both!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3430 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 08:31 PM
No problem Did you have any out of bound planets? I don't have any, lol. My closet two are Jupiter and Uranus at 21 degrees. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2708 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: No problem Did you have any out of bound planets? I don't have any, lol. My closet two are Jupiter and Uranus at 21 degrees.
I don't have any, the closest is Neptune at 22 followed by Uranus at 21 and my north node is at 23 but that is not a planet. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3430 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 09:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: I don't have any, the closest is Neptune at 22 followed by Uranus at 21 and my north node is at 23 but that is not a planet.
Oh, okay. Maybe it's rare? IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 10:03 PM
I have NO idea how to read out of bound planets. My Venus is SERIOUSLY out of bounds. 27°43'59"NI wonder what would happen if someone's planet paralleled or contra-paralleled it. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3430 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 10:17 PM
^Yeah, that's really out of bounds, lol.That would be quite rare indeed. I don't know what out of bound planets mean either. Maybe it means the planet is not in touch with it's true self? Maybe an out of bound Venus could mean that it's more of a detached kind of love, or eccentric tastes, like a Venus/Uranus aspect? Or maybe it could mean that it's more cold and unemotional/unromantic like a Venus/Saturn aspect? IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 10:43 PM
It seems that astrologers associate out of bounds planets with lawlessness for good or ill. Being outside the boundary of the norm regarding that planet's usual influence. quote: Having a planet out of bounds can be either good or bad depending on the person's level of consciousness. On the good side it can indicate the ability to have genius, groundbreaking ideas or talents that are truly unique and further advance humanity's collective level of consciousness. On the bad side it can indicate the craziness, bizarre thinking and insanity that drives a person towards mental illness, sociopathic/ psychopathic behaviour and criminal acts. For example, if a person has Venus out of bounds, on the positive side it can indicate an original immense talent for singing, playing an instrument, fashion design, art, aesthetic sense, and entertaining. On the negative side it can indicate the ability to use charm and persuasion for antisocial reasons, using very unethical or illegal means to acquire money and material possessions or sexually motivated crimes for example. The greater number of out of bounds planets a person has (out of 10) and the extent to which each planet is out of bounds (distance beyond 23°27), the more out of the box their thinking and the further they are ahead of their time.
http://www.astronumerologywisdom.com/astrological-language.html quote: Steven Forrest defines in his article nine of typical manifestations, and gives many examples. I wholeheartedly recommend you to read the whole article. Here, for brevity, I will only list a few, the most typical categories, and mention some examples:Choosing to Leave, Breaking Out, Outlaws. These people have a tendency "to walk away from situations which more conventional individuals might consider prestigious or desirable, or they might decide to escape from the rules and norms of the society they were born into. They can also ignore the society's expectations in relation to their gender, or age, or something else. Some examples are "1960s music star Cat Stevens, who left his stardom behind to follow his muslim faith" and Amelia Earhart, an American aviation pioneer who was the first female aviator to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean. Geniuses. Those who "think outside the box". A great example is Albert Einstein. Zany Characters - the former Russian president Boris Yeltsin is a good example. Sociopaths and Criminals. One example here is Carlos the Jackal, the international assassin.
http://www.lunarium.co.uk/articles/out-of-bounds.jsp IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3430 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 10:55 PM
Thank you very much for the links, MsPrism IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 13, 2014 11:12 PM
You're welcome, Mercurian Intellect. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2708 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 13, 2014 11:19 PM
Yes great info thanks.....I like how the info points out that it can manifest differently depending on level of consciousness and perhaps other factors in the chart.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 12480 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 14, 2014 03:26 AM
Interesting, both my Mercury and Venus are out of bond (though not extremely though - both betwen 24-25 S. ) IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 14, 2014 03:42 AM
Oh cool and your Mercury is conjunct your Sun too, huh Ceri? You're DEFINITELY Mercurian so maybe your out of bounds Mercury has even more oomph! My Moon is also out of bounds at 24°57'. I actually found something interesting. One of my partners had no Venus/Pluto action going on, which I need for a partnership, but their Moon was at 27°42'S which is almost exactly contra-parallel my Venus. Their Moon ruled their 7th/8th House so that Moon brought some sort of Venus/Pluto energy opposite my DSC ruler Venus. Pretty cool! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 10878 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 03:57 AM
my only oob is north node which is 23 lol pretty pathetic but my s.o's mars is 27 lmfao.apparently I read that planets are most likely oob in late Gemini/early Cancer. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 1418 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 14, 2014 09:18 AM
Another take on OOBs from Alice PortmanIn my opinion planets that are out of bounds describe the ability to function outside of the box. These positions often describe those with an intense need for personal freedom; lateral thinkers; original artists; people who are not bound by normal conventions and the rules of society; and sometimes people who are just lawless. Therefore many original and unusual people have out of bounds planets. For example Mozart had an out of bounds Mars at 27N11 and also at 0 Cancer. This may have described his genius, particularly as Mars was also involved in a quintile pattern (creativity). Many modern day astrologers have ‘out of bounds’ planets as astrology is presently not part of mainstream thought. This is particularly the case for astrologers who can be termed ‘original thinkers’ and offer new ideas or new information in our area. This is about you, Ceri IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2708 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 14, 2014 12:44 PM
Info on Venus OOBs:Planets are "out of bounds" when they achieve a declination greater than the maximum declination of the ecliptic (23N28 or 23S28). Out of bounds planets are said to be beyond the limit, "beyond the norm", beyond expectations,... Out of bounds planets represent something EXCEPTIONAL and the greater the declination, the greater the extraordinary influences. When Venus, planet of love, beauty and harmony is out of bounds, there is a huge need to live in a harmonious and beautiful environment without arguments and disputes. In male charts we have observed that they almost exclusively have been married to extremely gorgeous and highly attractive women. These men prefer exquisite and EXCEPTIONAL beauties. In female charts the love life is often very overwhelming and obsessive (at times self-destructive too). In almost all instances the woman is an extraordinary beauty. _________________________
My sister has mercury out of bounds at 23 45 and she avoids talking about anything controversial like the plague, its very superficial I feel. Everything she talks about is small talk and light things OR her paranoid ideations about who she is dating in the past and of her husband in the present; everyone she gets involved with is either on drugs, gay or cheating on her; EVERYONE. She has mercury OOB conjunct Sun by 9 orbs so not combust and her mercury is in cancer squaring pluto, sextiling mars and trining uranus. I would say she is hard working, ambitious, responsible and capable but her intelligence is average. She keeps all conversations light and superficial, she thinks people "turn" gay and is super paranoid about things like that. She did not vote for Obama bc of his position on gay marriage...she has paranoid thoughts about the gays although claims she wants them to be happy when I confront her. SO mercury OBB does not mean genius sorry....I think more research needs to go into OBB planets.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 1418 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 14, 2014 12:57 PM
I think all articles stated that these people can be either "geniuses" or freaks. There's usually a thin line between these two Have you ever watched "Amadeus"?IP: Logged |