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charlie
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posted May 14, 2014 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have searched long and hard for this "lie" I have felt surrounding my birthtime/date/year. The Pluto in me have just KNOWN. Plutonians will know what I mean...

1. There is NOTHING Cancer or Capricorn about me and I can't stand those signs for the most part. Saturn energy makes me depressed for real and the only water sign I understand and get along with is Pisces and I have dated quite a few.

2. I feel like "home" looking at my Sidereal and Draconic charts where I am a Gemini Sun, Mercury, Venus and Sag Moon, Leo Asc conj Mars. The Draconic is flipflopped.

3. I have more Gem and Sags friends than I can count on 2 hands.

4. I am all about Jupiter. I can't live without my spirituality, open spaces and grassy fields...traveling...positive attitudes and the notion that giving up is NOT an option! And I adore learning new things.

5. I am like a Gemini in terms of communicating and I come across as having severe ADD in life. I can't keep my interest for a man beyond 4 months because they bore me to tears and if they can't talk to me so that I listen, or do it in a progresssive manner, those 4 months are down to 2..

6. I have referenced dolphins and ocean since I first saw The Big Blue in the 90's. I "feel" things others don't because I can "swim" with humans and their emotions. PLEASE tell me someone understands what I am trying to convey!! The last time I did it was in a post made by Pocoloca (sp?) regarding Uranus and telepathy the other day.


There is more but I will let it rest for now.


This morning, while sober mind you, my mom said that I was actually "kinda" born 6/11 as opposed to 7/11. I was head out but something happened so doctors stalled birth. Most of you will say that "well, you were still technically born 7/11" and you will be correct, but I believe my entire being was born earlier and I think I know why now.

It ALL makes sense.

This would give me Pluto in 3H and it would explain my immense need to probe for information and get to the bottom of things. I. will. not. stop until I have gathered all info.

I would have Scorpio Uranus rx conj IC in 4H. My childhood was a complete and utter failure. Volatile and chaotic and it has near enough ruined me. My Mom is a Scorpio..

I would have Sag Moon conj Neptune. I guess my dream of dolphins remains alive... my adoration for my beloved horses and open fields. Freedom! I want to hug the grass and die in the ocean.

A Gemini Sun and Venus in 11H....I probably don't have to comment on this much as all its meaning reside in my bonemarrow.

I guess my Draconic really turned out to be my "Soul "in more ways than one.

If you think I am insane, that's ok
If you want to toss me some ideas or thoughts, I would love to hear them!

Thank you for reading.

p.s. Sorry if this is somewhat incoherent. I just needed to get it all down.


Oh. It's not the 1st time my mom hides truths. She's hidden my 5yr older Gemini brother from me for years.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 14, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations on solving this mystery.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted May 14, 2014 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:

4. I am all about Jupiter. I can't live wittout my spirituality, open spaces and grassy fields...traveling...positive attitudes and the notion that giving up is NOT an option! And I adore learning new things.


Me too and I have it conjunct my ascendant. I also have an exalted moon (Jupiter is exalted in the sign the moon rules.)

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charlie
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posted May 14, 2014 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Congratulations on solving this mystery.


You don't think I am a looney-toon??

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 14, 2014 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No? Or we're both loonies

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 14, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that definitely seems to make much more sense, charlie.

I'd be so thrilled to discover something like that.


"Holy skies! I am not a Scorpio with a 6H stellium but actually a Sagittarius with a sh*tload of happy-go-lucky placements! Phew, I can relax and be happy now."

(I was actually supposed to be a Sag with a Pisces Moon. I guess the Universe had a different plan.)

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted May 14, 2014 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is really interesting.

So your head was out on 6/11, and then your head was put back into the womb until 7/11?

Astrologically speaking, I think you would be born on 6/11 then.

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charlie
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posted May 14, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
This is really interesting.

So your head was out on 6/11, and then your head was put back into the womb until 7/11?

Astrologically speaking, I think you would be born on 6/11 then.


It sounds absolutely absurd but yes, that is how my mom told the story. I knew there were complications with my birth but I never knew what kind.

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charlie
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posted May 14, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Well, that definitely seems to make much more sense, charlie.

I'd be so thrilled to discover something like that.


"Holy skies! I am not a Scorpio with a 6H stellium but actually a Sagittarius with a sh*tload of happy-go-lucky placements! Phew, I can relax and be happy now."

(I was actually supposed to be a Sag with a Pisces Moon. I guess the Universe had a different plan.)


I have just always kown something to be off. I am NOT a Cancer!! That thougth alone is laughable if you were to meet me in person!

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 14, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust your intuition, I guess.

Whatever seems to work best!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 14, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hold up, hold the coffee.

What you are saying is, you head popped out on the 11th of June that year but "went back in again" to re-emerge the same year on the 11th of July?

Just for interest sake, could you post both charts; the "actual" birth as well as the "initial" birth?

This is news to me as I have never heard anything quite like this. I thought once the baby is out, the baby is out!

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charlie
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posted May 14, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hold up, hold the coffee.

What you are saying is, you head popped out on the 11th of June that year but "went back in again" to re-emerge the same year on the 11th of July?

Just for interest sake, could you post both charts; the "actual" birth as well as the "initial" birth?

This is news to me as I have never heard anything quite like this. I thought once the baby is out, the baby is out!



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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 14, 2014 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm..I've checked out both your charts.

U said that you didn't like being around other Cancers and got on only with one water sign-Pisces.

I wonder, though, how your relations with Capricorns and Scorpios are? Could the experience with Caps/Cancers be because of a small pool of people?

But then again,instincts are seldom wrong. When you see the truth, you feel it and just "know".

I, for one, have always connected very well with masculine signs;especially Sag, Gemini and Aquas.

So Gemini Sun sign it is.

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fairaqua
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posted May 14, 2014 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was having a hard time with astrology till I learned about vedic (Hindu side reel). Then every thing clicked for me

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 15, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you post a picture we could all really really help you to decipher whether you are a cancer or a gem once and for all

And tell us the sun-moon-asc and first house placements of both potential charts when u post the pic

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LionFish
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posted May 15, 2014 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
If you post a picture we could all really really help you to decipher whether you are a cancer or a gem once and for all

And tell us the sun-moon-asc and first house placements of both potential charts when u post the pic


what RAS said!!
cancers and geminis look pretty much nothing alike.

im glad you are getting this figured out for yourself , everyone deserves to know who they are.

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LionFish
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posted May 15, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Orange
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posted May 15, 2014 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing in this story makes sense

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posted May 15, 2014 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... It's not like they can put a baby back in...

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Sibyl
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posted May 15, 2014 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That story seems like a gross exaggeration.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 15, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it depens on how far the head is out. I dunno, is there any doctor here?

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Sibyl
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posted May 15, 2014 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see how. The water breaks before labour is initiated. If the sack is broken (and it has to be in order for the baby to pass through the birth canal), the fetus can't be sustained in the uterus.

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posted May 15, 2014 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then either her mother didn't use the right words or there was no such incident. But why would she lie?

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Sibyl
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posted May 15, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe she went into labour and the doctors stopped it using drugs. It could have been an exaggeration on her part? It doesn't always work, but it happens. However that would have to before the water breaks, except in extreme cases, and definitely before the baby starts pushing out.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081220070814AAHXC8p

One poster here says birth can only be postponed by a week or maximum two if the water breaks in extreme cases. The others say doctors won't do that for more than a maximum of 24 hours due to the high risk of infection. So the 1 month narrative doesn't make sense on that account either...

Would love to have a Doctor's opinion on this though. It sounds very strange to me.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 15, 2014 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh yeah... I misread the whole thing.

It does sound dubious although the second chart would make a lot of sense, I think.

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