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Topic: I guess I wasn't a Cancer after all..long post
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 1785 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 10:19 AM
I have searched long and hard for this "lie" I have felt surrounding my birthtime/date/year. The Pluto in me have just KNOWN. Plutonians will know what I mean...1. There is NOTHING Cancer or Capricorn about me and I can't stand those signs for the most part. Saturn energy makes me depressed for real and the only water sign I understand and get along with is Pisces and I have dated quite a few. 2. I feel like "home" looking at my Sidereal and Draconic charts where I am a Gemini Sun, Mercury, Venus and Sag Moon, Leo Asc conj Mars. The Draconic is flipflopped. 3. I have more Gem and Sags friends than I can count on 2 hands. 4. I am all about Jupiter. I can't live without my spirituality, open spaces and grassy fields...traveling...positive attitudes and the notion that giving up is NOT an option! And I adore learning new things. 5. I am like a Gemini in terms of communicating and I come across as having severe ADD in life. I can't keep my interest for a man beyond 4 months because they bore me to tears and if they can't talk to me so that I listen, or do it in a progresssive manner, those 4 months are down to 2.. 6. I have referenced dolphins and ocean since I first saw The Big Blue in the 90's. I "feel" things others don't because I can "swim" with humans and their emotions. PLEASE tell me someone understands what I am trying to convey!! The last time I did it was in a post made by Pocoloca (sp?) regarding Uranus and telepathy the other day. There is more but I will let it rest for now.
This morning, while sober mind you, my mom said that I was actually "kinda" born 6/11 as opposed to 7/11. I was head out but something happened so doctors stalled birth. Most of you will say that "well, you were still technically born 7/11" and you will be correct, but I believe my entire being was born earlier and I think I know why now.
It ALL makes sense. This would give me Pluto in 3H and it would explain my immense need to probe for information and get to the bottom of things. I. will. not. stop until I have gathered all info. I would have Scorpio Uranus rx conj IC in 4H. My childhood was a complete and utter failure. Volatile and chaotic and it has near enough ruined me. My Mom is a Scorpio.. I would have Sag Moon conj Neptune. I guess my dream of dolphins remains alive... my adoration for my beloved horses and open fields. Freedom! I want to hug the grass and die in the ocean. A Gemini Sun and Venus in 11H....I probably don't have to comment on this much as all its meaning reside in my bonemarrow. I guess my Draconic really turned out to be my "Soul "in more ways than one. If you think I am insane, that's ok If you want to toss me some ideas or thoughts, I would love to hear them! Thank you for reading. p.s. Sorry if this is somewhat incoherent. I just needed to get it all down. Oh. It's not the 1st time my mom hides truths. She's hidden my 5yr older Gemini brother from me for years.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 6564 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 10:27 AM
Congratulations on solving this mystery.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8360 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by charlie:
4. I am all about Jupiter. I can't live wittout my spirituality, open spaces and grassy fields...traveling...positive attitudes and the notion that giving up is NOT an option! And I adore learning new things.
Me too and I have it conjunct my ascendant. I also have an exalted moon (Jupiter is exalted in the sign the moon rules.)
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 1785 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Congratulations on solving this mystery.
You don't think I am a looney-toon?? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 6564 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 11:21 AM
No? Or we're both loonies ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 7850 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 11:53 AM
Well, that definitely seems to make much more sense, charlie.I'd be so thrilled to discover something like that. "Holy skies! I am not a Scorpio with a 6H stellium but actually a Sagittarius with a sh*tload of happy-go-lucky placements! Phew, I can relax and be happy now."
(I was actually supposed to be a Sag with a Pisces Moon. I guess the Universe had a different plan.) IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3443 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 14, 2014 12:17 PM
This is really interesting.So your head was out on 6/11, and then your head was put back into the womb until 7/11? Astrologically speaking, I think you would be born on 6/11 then. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1785 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 12:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: This is really interesting.So your head was out on 6/11, and then your head was put back into the womb until 7/11? Astrologically speaking, I think you would be born on 6/11 then.
It sounds absolutely absurd but yes, that is how my mom told the story. I knew there were complications with my birth but I never knew what kind. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1785 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Well, that definitely seems to make much more sense, charlie.I'd be so thrilled to discover something like that. "Holy skies! I am not a Scorpio with a 6H stellium but actually a Sagittarius with a sh*tload of happy-go-lucky placements! Phew, I can relax and be happy now."
(I was actually supposed to be a Sag with a Pisces Moon. I guess the Universe had a different plan.)
I have just always kown something to be off. I am NOT a Cancer!! That thougth alone is laughable if you were to meet me in person!
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 7850 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 01:02 PM
Trust your intuition, I guess.Whatever seems to work best! IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 364 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 01:21 PM
Hold up, hold the coffee.What you are saying is, you head popped out on the 11th of June that year but "went back in again" to re-emerge the same year on the 11th of July? Just for interest sake, could you post both charts; the "actual" birth as well as the "initial" birth? This is news to me as I have never heard anything quite like this. I thought once the baby is out, the baby is out! IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1785 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Hold up, hold the coffee.What you are saying is, you head popped out on the 11th of June that year but "went back in again" to re-emerge the same year on the 11th of July? Just for interest sake, could you post both charts; the "actual" birth as well as the "initial" birth? This is news to me as I have never heard anything quite like this. I thought once the baby is out, the baby is out!
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 364 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 02:50 PM
Hmm..I've checked out both your charts.U said that you didn't like being around other Cancers and got on only with one water sign-Pisces. I wonder, though, how your relations with Capricorns and Scorpios are? Could the experience with Caps/Cancers be because of a small pool of people? But then again,instincts are seldom wrong. When you see the truth, you feel it and just "know". I, for one, have always connected very well with masculine signs;especially Sag, Gemini and Aquas. So Gemini Sun sign it is. IP: Logged |
fairaqua Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 14, 2014 03:08 PM
I was having a hard time with astrology till I learned about vedic (Hindu side reel). Then every thing clicked for meIP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8109 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 07:30 AM
If you post a picture we could all really really help you to decipher whether you are a cancer or a gem once and for allAnd tell us the sun-moon-asc and first house placements of both potential charts when u post the pic IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2014 07:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: If you post a picture we could all really really help you to decipher whether you are a cancer or a gem once and for allAnd tell us the sun-moon-asc and first house placements of both potential charts when u post the pic
what RAS said!! cancers and geminis look pretty much nothing alike. im glad you are getting this figured out for yourself , everyone deserves to know who they are. IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2014 07:43 AM
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 1413 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 15, 2014 08:20 AM
Nothing in this story makes senseIP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 772 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 09:33 AM
Yeah... It's not like they can put a baby back in... IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 772 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 09:34 AM
That story seems like a gross exaggeration. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 6564 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 15, 2014 09:37 AM
Maybe it depens on how far the head is out. I dunno, is there any doctor here?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 772 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 09:49 AM
I don't see how. The water breaks before labour is initiated. If the sack is broken (and it has to be in order for the baby to pass through the birth canal), the fetus can't be sustained in the uterus. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 6564 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 15, 2014 09:52 AM
Then either her mother didn't use the right words or there was no such incident. But why would she lie?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 772 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 09:54 AM
Maybe she went into labour and the doctors stopped it using drugs. It could have been an exaggeration on her part? It doesn't always work, but it happens. However that would have to before the water breaks, except in extreme cases, and definitely before the baby starts pushing out. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081220070814AAHXC8p One poster here says birth can only be postponed by a week or maximum two if the water breaks in extreme cases. The others say doctors won't do that for more than a maximum of 24 hours due to the high risk of infection. So the 1 month narrative doesn't make sense on that account either... Would love to have a Doctor's opinion on this though. It sounds very strange to me. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 7850 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 15, 2014 10:08 AM
Uh yeah... I misread the whole thing. It does sound dubious although the second chart would make a lot of sense, I think. IP: Logged |