posted May 16, 2014 01:32 PM            

"Do you ever see the blue/violet "swirling" "'flame" as it is called? Like in the corner of the eye or right before you?"
Yes, I do.
What is this flame?

"She's taking care of our old aunt (94) and the the aunt choke with food and my sister had to perform the Heimlich maneuver on her. It was long distance, I wasn't even in the same country."
Wow!
That is amazing. I hope your aunt was alright after that?

Well, what puzzles me endlessly in relation to Patrick is how it seems so ... so RANDOM.
It is strongest after I have seen him and been exposed to his physical energy. Strange state of consciousness. Not awake, not asleep, some other state.

Anyway, when I hear his voice, it is always, random. Actually like I am overhearing conversation he has in actuality, like I am hearing THROUGH his ears/ mind. So weird.
I remember the last the thing I heard (usually it is all fizzled and not always clearly decipherable) was: "It`s rather chilly. Does anyone mind if I close the window?" LOL

Not really that HUGE of a moment I suppos.
However, he sometimes seems to react to my mind-play. Sometimes these "visuals" come like a flash, even when seeing him. It is not a thought, it is really a flash of a scene, imagery, that is suddenly there i my mind, unbidden, unwelcome, unwanted most of the time, cause I have ZERO control about WHAT it is I am going to see, it is like a memory of something that never happened, but the imprint of the memory is there, like a flash. And well, at times it might be quite an erotic image, just quick like lightening (until I can suppress it again), just a visual, imprinted in MY mind.
This is what happened 3 weeks ago, when I saw him on stage (1st row seems to be TOO close physically btw), and he was performing something, focused on the play of course, and just the instant when the image rushed through my mind, he suddenly swung around and stared at me, just for a tiny little moment, and I think I might have stared back at him just as shocked, startled. It was like he SHARED that visual (oh God, I hope NOT :blush: ).
As I said just a short moment, and I have no idea what really made him suddenly swing around and look at me that way (and after that moment he made sure to avoid looking at me for much of the time. lol).

I am sorry, I really do not want these visuals tormenting me and I certainly do not want to transfer them to HIM either.
I mean not possible, right? Must be just a coincidence - again.

"Do you mean "lucid dreaming"? "
NOt sure. It is not *quite* like that, or maybe it is. It is, well often I linger around the step between falling asleep and being awake quite long. People tell me it is not usual (don`t know about that), but I am often quite consciously falling asleep. not like a switch, more like a dimmer.
a sliding scale. and somewhere on that sliding scale the limboland exists for me. maybe some sort of halfconsciousness taking over. so not quite daydreaming, but more conscious than real dreams. Hypagnogic state, someone told me. I don`t know.

posted May 16, 2014 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Check your Telephus (5264), both of you.

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Telephus always reminds me that he was this Trojan or Greek Warrior. LOL

Anyway in my natal it is on 1 Taurus on my 5th house cusp opposite Uranus exact.

posted May 16, 2014 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You also used Isis, Kaali. Do you think they play a role too?

EDIT: Doesn't this mean you have Mercury septile Moon in the natal?

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Kaali definitely a spiritual energy, Isis possibly, too. I put it in there, cause I have Isis conjunct Osiris natally and wanted to see if they played a role. Interesting how Isis must be in 7th harmonic aspect to Kaali. Both also relate to Kundalini rising btw.

Yes, Moon septile Mercury 0°37

Actualy according to solar fire I have these septiles:

Moon septile Mercury 0.37
Moon septile Sun 0.15
Moon triseptile Vertex 0°04
Sun triseptile Vertex 0°11
Mercury triseptile Vertex 0°43

corresponding midpoint-figures:
Vertex opposite Sun/Moon 0°03
Vertex opposite Moon/Mercury 0°24

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Venus biseptile Chiron 1.03
Venus septile true Lilith 1.04
Chiron septile true Lilith 0.00
true Lilith biseptile SN 1.18
Venus triseptile SN 0°13
Chiron septile SN 1°13

posted May 16, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Telephus always reminds me that he was this Trojan or Greek Warrior. LOL

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Shhhh I know, but it doesn't hurt to check it, right?

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Not awake, not asleep, some other state.

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NOt sure. It is not *quite* like that, or maybe it is. It is, well often I linger around the step between falling asleep and being awake quite long. People tell me it is not usual (don`t know about that), but I am often quite consciously falling asleep. not like a switch, more like a dimmer.
a sliding scale. and somewhere on that sliding scale the limboland exists for me. maybe some sort of halfconsciousness taking over. so not quite daydreaming, but more conscious than real dreams. Hypagnogic state, someone told me. I don`t know.

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posted May 16, 2014 01:59 PM            

"If I were you I'd check Hypnos and Samadhi."
I once did and found Hypnos to be very strong.

HYPNOS on 6 Leo in 8th house trine IC/GAEA/ALMA/AURA on 4-6 Aries trine Mars, ASC, Lust, Angel etc on 5-7 Sag.

love my Hypnos Sabian:
The Constellations Of Stars Shine Brilliantly In The Night Sky

Samhadi:
6 Virgo conjunczt Lilith exact and Hekate, Rudra, part of a Kite based on a GT to Venus-Isis-Osiris 6-8 Cap, and Lucifer-Actor, part of marriage, Eros/Psyche midpoint on 7-8 Taurus, with the opposition pointing at Pholus, Ceres, Ishtar on 6-9 Pisces.

Also squares my ASC on 7 SAg of course.

posted May 16, 2014 02:05 PM            

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For some years (especially in puberty) it was more difficult to PREVENT it from happen to be honest.

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My Hypnos and Samadhi are conjunct exact in the 4th house and...square ASC

posted May 16, 2014 02:30 PM            

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1876160/pg1

http://www.dnaalchemy.com/Opening_The_Third_Eye.html

http://www.angelicinspirations.com/thirdeye.html

Yes, it does happen in the hypnagogic and hypnopompic stages, just like you describe.

I'm curious if your connection with Patrick started after you met him in person? How is his 7th harmonics and your comparison with natals and 7th to 7th?

posted May 16, 2014 02:34 PM            

The Septile carries both spiritual overtones and shadow undertones.
A few septiles imply spiritual bonding. There is rapport at a mental level; one intuits the thoughts of the other. There is a psychic link, a reading of minds and uniting of thoughts that is almost telepathic.

7th harmonic in synastry could be an enlightening mystical connection. The two can be inspired with one another. They could bring out the poet in each other They could feel a strong connection with each other that is hard to define with words. They could share religious values.

posted May 16, 2014 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You only use an exact orb, right? Do you look for a psychic connection indicators only in harmonic synastry or do you do harmonic to natal too? Or did you mean septiles in natal to natal?

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Just like with the other harmonics, you compare harmonics (person 1) to natal (person 2) and then harmonics synastry, maybe composite. If you were asking me?

posted May 16, 2014 03:05 PM            

A question to you all: do you communicate with yourself in your dreams? Like there are two version of you who experience the dream and you can send thoughts to each other? Not sure if I explain it well .

posted May 16, 2014 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ok, thanks. What orb do you use for conjunctions and oppositions? And is there any other use of 7th harmonic?

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For the comparisons, the usual close orbs Ceri "infected" me with Normal orbs.

posted May 16, 2014 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:

A question to you all: do you communicate with yourself in your dreams? Like there are two version of you who experience the dream and you can send thoughts to each other? Not sure if I explain it well .

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I'm worried about you, Tulipe!

posted May 16, 2014 03:11 PM            

Well, another symptom I was having was the development of eyemigrane, I remember having had it once before, but I had several bouts just the months after my first meeting with Patrick and my desperate tries to shut down again.
The first time I actually had it the day before my birthday, 17th december (and 2 days before his ) a few months prior to meeting I believe. Back then I called the emergency and was being checked up for symptoms of a stroke, of course, but luckily that was not it. It was just eye-migraine, and by now I have come to know the signals beforehand, though luckily haven`t had it for many many months.
Even knowing it is harmless it is no fun when your field of vision suddenly dissolves into a caleidoscope of swirling coulours and lights. It always lasts 25 minutes. Exactly. Always. And before it announces itself with me feeling withdrawn from the world, somehow separated, detached from everything around me, as if this is not even real. But anyway, I read it is a symptom of the third eye opening up, too.

Interestingly, after I saw Patrick again, 2 years after his first appearance in my life, and a few months prior to actually meeting him and talking to him, the morning after that concert, I suddenly had a blind spot in one eye. Turned out it was blood on my retina, I had it checked of course and there was no reason to be concerned, medically, it would heal itself (it had healed completely just a day or two prior to our first meeting actually). I remember I was joking to friends of mine wondering what or whom I was turning a "blind eye" to.

But seriously I relaly can do without such symptoms.

"I'm curious if your connection with Patrick started after you met him in person?"
That very strong mind-connection started after our first meeting, especially the mutual meeting; that night after that, I will never forget. Jeez, I thought I was going crazy1 (probably just kundalini rising though), was having a stroke and dying and was totally on a different dimension as it seemed.
So yes that constant stream happened after that, however a few weeks before i layed eyes on him first, I dreamed of him. Or someone who was VERY VERY close in energetic make up.
Druidan times. England or Ireland. Oak tree. Sacred marriage ritual.
I was shockfrozen when I saw the guy from this dream in real life! lol
Well I had been communicating with him before, or actually i do not know if it was him, but a few weeks prior, too, whenever i came out of meditation I sensed someonen`s energy around, I called him Mystery guy; I knew he was tall, big and blonde, with a smile that can compete with the sun, but he wouldn`t even tell me his name or if we were ever going to meet. Insisted thta I would understand if we both were ready to do so.
Anyway, just some weird daydreams in the meditation. However eventually I saw Patrick, and after that the energy of that mystery guy faded away, or rather I did not try to figure out who he was so desparately. I very quickly forgot about Patrick after that first seeing, too. I suppose I had to. He startled me, pushed me out of my comfort zone, was totally not my type (of course he is EXACTLY my type ) and so on.

I was actually falling into a deep depression that half year (Tr Saturn opposite Moon is no fun). I had hit a dead end.
I originally had only gone to that concert because prior to this I felt thsi unbearable untameable longing and just felt this: "I want to go home" feeling. I could not even say what it was, it just felt, like I was missing the musical theatre so much (had distanced myself some years prior to that in a dark night of the soul, which also made me lose ALL my faith).

And it also marked the time that I wanted to regain my spirituality, my faith, even if it seemed so utterly impossible. You can`t jsut decide to believe again, you know?
But it was time to face some demons of the past and make them friends or allies. lol
That summer I also stumbled over Lindaland, and it felt so right, as the books by Linda were what originally started me on my journey so many years ago. And well that is where i have been ever since. Here.

I am definitely not the same person I was when I came on her. I am more myself now.

Well that summer Pluto was transiting my Sun-Mercury-conjunction. Not a surprise, right?

Anyway it was 2 years later that I ran into Patrick again on a concert - and coincidentally, unintended again.

That occasion was followed by a sequence of dreams of him. Almost every other night. I am not kidding you. He was STALKING my dreams, to the point that to get rid of him I figured I would go and see him on stage in a musical, which happened to be Jesus Christ Superstar, and now it feels it was not quite a coincidence that it had to be THIS musical.
Anyway, I just went there to get rid of these dreams and him, to nip any budding obsession in the bud by putting him off his pedestal and making him real. this usually helpse pretty well to keep the Neptune at bay, no greater turn off than REAL people.
Which is why I went and saw him and talked with him, i never expected his realness, off stage, to be so much more shockingly attractive than any of the characters he played could ever be. This sent me in total shock (and denial).
The pull I felt, it shouldnt´have been there. Not to the real physical version of him. I am crushing on dreams, not real men. I don´t even feel attraction like most people do, or so I thought, everything has to go through the mind. I was UTTERLY completely unequipped to deal with this visceral instinctual pull. Completely overwhelmed. And crept out.
He didn`t quite help matters when he started sniffing me (well the air around me) about 10 minutes into meeting. LOL
Just wanted to figure out why I said I wasn`t wearing a certain fragrance, and he didn`t believe me. it was... weird. lol

But yes that is what it started .... and I put an end to it right away. lol
Disapeared for 2 years, and only saw him 2 years later on a concert again. And from then on it has been just weird. I suppose.

" How is his 7th harmonics and your comparison with natals and 7th to 7th?"
I will have a look later on. But Iknow that his Venus is septile my Mars. And I am just checking for exact aspects or maybe a few minutes over one degree.

posted May 16, 2014 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm worried about you, Tulipe!

Just kiddin' I'll make myself a coffee and answer your questions. I can't wait to exchange "psychic' experiences with you.

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I can't wait neither. I'm sorry about your aunt Leeloo, it must be very tough for your family.

Ceri, thanks for sharing your stories, they're all beautiful. Your journey has many awakening moments, I like that .

Cappy, come give your husband, ehh, wife or whatever, a kiss!

posted May 16, 2014 03:32 PM            

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What do you mean, other use?

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posted May 16, 2014 03:34 PM            

his Chiron conjunct my Mars (1)

his Mercury conjunct my Neptune (4)

his Lilith opposite my Lilith and Chiron (3)

his Neptune conjunct my Saturn (5)

his Jupiter conjunct my Uranus (2)

his Mars oposite my Jupiter (1)

his Ceres opposite my Jupiter (1)

his Sun conjunct my Vertex (7)
his Sun conjunct my Sun (7)
his Sun opposite my Pluto (5)

his Pallas conjunct my DESC (1)

his natal - my 7th
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his Sun conjunct my Juno (2)
his MC conjunct my Juno exact
his Moon conjunct my Juno exact

his Chiron conjunct my Uranus exact
his Uranus opposite my Mercury (2)

his Mercury ocnjunct my Pluto (5)

my natal - his 7th
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my Moon conjunct his Lilith exact
my Lilith conjunct his ASC exact
my Lilith conjunct his Pluto (1)
my Ceres conjunct his NN exact
my Ceres opposite his Saturn (3)
my Jupiter conjunct his NN (2)

my Juno conjunct his Avx (3)
my Chiron conjunct his Neptune (3)
my SN conjunct his Sun (2)

my Saturn conjunct his Juno (3)
my Vx conjunct his Pallas (1)

my Pluto conjunct his Uranus (4)

my Mars opposite his Sun (3)
my DESC conjucnt his Sun (1)
my NEptune opposite his Sun (1)
my Sun opposite his Moon (5)

my Vesta conjunct his Venus exact
my Venus conjunct his Venus (5)
my Venus conjunct his Chiron (1)

posted May 16, 2014 03:38 PM            

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Come here, woman.

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Gross. Yuck!

Does it show something other than psychic potential?

It's hard to tell yet, not many things are known about these aspects.

posted May 16, 2014 03:40 PM            

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Gross. Yuck!

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