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posted May 17, 2014 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspect makes someone so intuitive, spiritual and I can guess you would say philosophical/religous? Also so much that other people would recognize this in them and maybe even seek their advice/feel inspired by their aura?

Would it be something to do with 12th house? Does a jupiter 12th house do this maybe?

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starlitroad
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posted May 17, 2014 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I came here because I wanted to tell you that basically it depends:)

I have sagg in 12th house cusp, but I am not a spiritual person,
-I feel that with my mind I could be spiritual...what I mean by that/ well..I understand love,universal love, kindness..but mentally...from the feelings pov..I am confused.-

because I am mostly earth dominant

people come to me for advice, but only for relationship advice or to tell me their problems, to share their burden

What can I tell you...it must involve jupiter, but also ( can be weird, ...and I can be utterly wrong- uranus. In my opinion uranus is mass consciousness, it's reform, not spirituality, but jupiter deals with that...and smth like a fire jupiter sign, can be ardent and generous, not only sag

and air jupiter too..because of their broad consciousness

just my simple opinion :)

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posted May 17, 2014 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starlitroad:
Oh, I came here because I wanted to tell you that basically it depends

I have sagg in 12th house cusp, but I am not a spiritual person,
-I feel that with my mind I could be spiritual...what I mean by that/ well..I understand love,universal love, kindness..but mentally...from the feelings pov..I am confused.-

because I am mostly earth dominant

people come to me for advice, but only for relationship advice or to tell me their problems, to share their burden

What can I tell you...it must involve jupiter, but also ( can be weird, ...and I can be utterly wrong- uranus. In my opinion uranus is mass consciousness, it's reform, not spirituality, but jupiter deals with that...and smth like a fire jupiter sign, can be ardent and generous, not only sag

and air jupiter too..because of their broad consciousness

just my simple opinion


thanks for answering Do you think a cancer jupiter in 12th house square mercury, conjunction ascendant, trine venus, opposite saturn, neptune and uranus and trine pluto can be spiritual?:P

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Heartsong11
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posted May 17, 2014 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm a Sag with Jupiter in Sag too. I also have my chart ruler in the 9th house which all to do with higher concepts and spiritual beliefs.
Any time I have had natal charts done there will be a mention about how I'm destined to become a spiritual teacher of some sort. Because I also have a Sag stellium in the 10th I've been told that my teachings will affect a big mass of people.

I can tell you I'm deeply spiritual and have had strong beliefs since I'm very young (too young to really understand). But I cannot see myself ever preaching anything to other people about what I believe. It's not in my nature to try and make anyone believe in what I think.

I think 9th house placements would be what to look out for.

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starlitroad
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posted May 17, 2014 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by next to neptune:
thanks for answering :) Do you think a cancer jupiter in 12th house square mercury, conjunction ascendant, trine venus, opposite saturn, neptune and uranus and trine pluto can be spiritual?:P

Omg next to neptune, I am a newbie,haha, but I can always share my opinion..hmm..let's see..I see jupiter in cancer as a possible leader but mainly a caring one, a nurturer who'd like people to find comfort , and a higher understanding in the world..how to put this, the world as a nest!? A sense of belonging to somethin, mutual love and acceptance of being human. Jup conj asc is expansion. By itself it means optimism, but since jup is in 12th house it gives expansion to 12th house and things in it...therefore a huge hint of a spiritual person! Trine venus gives a sense of beauty seen in religion, philosophy...and heck the trine to pluto is great!! Not bad..it's a trine the energy flows, hence a powerful person who can work with the public..the mesmerize effect and ambition of pluto. I like the opp to uranus..it can give the taste of someone who finds creative ways of getting people into senses , of reforming the concept,of walking on a different street( awsome combo cancer jul opp uranus.-it summarisez my belief we are created of the same energy,share the core;but we are entitled to be an individual and develop thr personal energy)....what I do not like us the opp to saturn bcz it can give self-doubts..like can I really do it? Are my beliefs in the right? And also the opp to neptune..needs careful of profitors and also of self-dellyusion,
Since these are opositions, solutions can be found:)
I do believe these aspects can be of a spiritual person. I repeat it is just my opinion..and I can be wrong. I do not mean to mislead anybody. Hope it helped:)

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posted May 17, 2014 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about I just post my chart?

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Enneline
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posted May 17, 2014 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ghandi's and the Dalai Lama's charts are available all over the web

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 17, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the 1st house in the 9th

Ruler of the 12th house in the 9th

Ruler of the 9th house in the 10th

Ruler of the 12th house in the 10th

Pisces MC, Sagittarius MC

Jupiter on the MC, Neptune on the MC

Neptune aspecting the 1st house/1st house ruler/10th house/10th house ruler

Jupiter aspecting the 1st house/1st house ruler/10th house/10th house ruler

The Dalai Lama has Pisces on the MC.The ruler of the 10th(Neptune) is conjunct the ruler of the 1st house(Moon).

He also has,

Mercury in 12th- I think about spiritual things a lot
Saturn in 9th-I study and analyze religious doctrine
Pluto in 1st- I do a lot of internal introspection and analysis.

Mahatma Gandhi has ruler of 9th and 12th house in the 1st house.

He also has Neptune square MC and Asc
Moon in 10th trines Neptune and squares Jupiter.
Venus(ruler of 1st) opposite Jupiter

In whatever way you look at it, Jupiter, Neptune, 12th house and 9th house, their respective rulers, connections to the 1st house etc. are always involved

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 17, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just occurred to me that I have a lot of 9th house placements(Sun, Jupiter,Neptune, Mercury)

The ruler of my 12th house(Neptune) is in the 9th.
The ruler of the 9th house(Jupiter) is in the 9th house.
The ruler of the 6th house(Mercury) is in the 9th house.
Jupiter aspects the 1st house ruler(Mars)

Am I a guru? Yeah baby!!

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mztiny
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posted May 17, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Aries 29degrees

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