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vintagesoul
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posted May 19, 2014 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I have a question, if a person has been married more than one time and the first marriage is identified on the AC (it can be either the natal chart or progressed, correct?), where would the 2nd marriage be identified at (and what might the indicators be aspects with -- juno, asteroids, venus)??

thanks for any sharing of knowledge :-)

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 19, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically, the first marriage is shown by the DSC, and the second marriage is shown by the 9th house.

Can't remember why exactly, but that's how it goes.

Mutable signs on the DSC, and the DSC ruler in a mutable sign can indicate more than one marriage.

Mercury or Jupiter conjunct the DSC or in the 7H can also point to that.

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IntuitiveJ
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posted May 19, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering the same thing!
What exactly would you look for in regards to the 9th house? Transits or progressions?
My DSC is leo (fixed) but it's conjunct my mercury. I'm divorced but would like to think a second marriage is in my future
Any insight on this topic is appreciated!

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vintagesoul
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posted May 20, 2014 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I don't have any of those identifiers on my DSC either. I've got chiron on my DSC. In my 7H, there's mars. In my 9H cancer, there's saturn/s. Node quincunx my venus/juno in 4h of libra. I wonder if marriage without intentions of divorce would not show any of the obvious signs. I don't know.

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posted May 20, 2014 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Technically, the first marriage is shown by the DSC, and the second marriage is shown by the 9th house.

Can't remember why exactly, but that's how it goes.

Mutable signs on the DSC, and the DSC ruler in a mutable sign can indicate more than one marriage.

Mercury or Jupiter conjunct the DSC or in the 7H can also point to that.


What similar things apply to the 9th and second marriages?

BTW. It applies to me... Aries Dsc and Mars in Virgo. Just stating that I'm an example of that rule.

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jjj
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posted May 20, 2014 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im divorced... ruler of DC, Saturn, is in Taurus, but Mercury is conjunct DC by 3 degrees... Im wondering, would my second boyfriend (or husband haha) be mercurial, gemini-like?

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posted May 20, 2014 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a capricorn Desc. Saturn is in Libra.
My husband's desc is Libra. Venus is in Taurus.
Is this correct?
We are happily married. Together since march 2008.

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Liliya
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posted May 20, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh nooo, please say this rule doesn't apply to everyone.

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Liliya
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posted May 20, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does having a 7 year relationship count as a marriage... Ohh my Retro Virgo Venus (square Uranus) in 12th house is freaking out o.O

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 20, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Does having a 7 year relationship count as a marriage... Ohh my Retro Virgo Venus (square Uranus) in 12th house is freaking out o.O

An astrologer once told me that "marriage-like" relationships count.
But idk

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 20, 2014 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
An astrologer once told me that "marriage-like" relationships count.
But idk

This makes sense as not all of us marry(or are allowed to ehem....)

I find the whole 7th house to 9th house business tricky to accept.

Doesn't one still attract their 7th house partner? Only in the next instance, the good qualities are further emphasized? In the pyschological sense?

Say, for instance, someone who has Pisces on the 7th house and has Saturn there.

During a strong Neptune transit, their marriage dissolves; either the spouse gets involved with the wrong crowd, becomes unreliable or the affection for them is no more etc.

Whatever the reason may be, the individual will still be drawn to the 7th house partner characteristics but, this time, with the good qualities of their ex further emphasized by the new spouse.

So, when Mars transits the 5th house, she starts an affair with a dashing personal trainer who provides both physical and security needs and she decides to marry him.

Wouldn't this spouse resemble the 1st? Only in this instance, the personal trainer, is organized, well-put together and a lot more dependable.

I find it hard to believe that you'll marry someone(as the 1st marriage is definitive-no matter the nature) only to then do a total 360 with the second spouse bearing no resemblance whatsoever to the 1st.

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LucieLemonade
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posted May 21, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going with A23D on this one. I have Taurus dsc/Saturn and I love men who are Taurus like.

I can't see myself going for a Cancer guy by any strech of the imagination. Maybe a Taurus type who's a bit more expressive romantically. But no way fully on Cancerian.

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vintagesoul
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posted May 22, 2014 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good day!

So I'm going to post my chart to use as an example for learning purposes on this topic.

I am the sun in aquarius. The man that I am in relationship now is cusp of Taurus and Gemini. My ex husband is a Sagittarius.

Thoughts on what the indicators of marriage, divorce, remarriage (and with actual correlation to people involved?) are using this chart as an example.... ?

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As always, any sharing of thoughts, knowledge and insight is greatly valued.

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