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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there any couples out there who experienced Sun/Moon AND Venus/Mars double whammy in their synastry?

For example:

Sun conjunct Moon/Sun trine Moon AND Venus opp. Mars/Venus quincunx Mars

A DW should include a major aspect (conjunction, opposition, square, trine, sextile, quincunx), the other could be: 4th harmonics (semisquare, sesquisquare), 5th harmonics (quintile, biquintile), 7th harmonics (septile), 9th harmonics (novile), 11th harmonics (undecile - as it possibly relates to Twinflames), 12th harmonics (semisextile).

A combination within the same harmonics is valid too: for example Sun semisquare Moon, Sun sesquisquare Moon or Sun quintile Moon/Sun biquintile Moon, or Sun septile Moon/ Sun biseptile Moon, as it often creates a specific pattern related to that harmonics.

A combination between two esoteric aspects might also work, such as : Sun septile Moon, Sun novile Moon.

Please share, signs/houses/orbs included.

Thanks!

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tgem
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posted May 21, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and Cusp

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 21, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cusp...That's an interesting nickname.

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tgem
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posted May 21, 2014 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Cusp...That's an interesting nickname.


Born on the Cap/Aquarius Cusp

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Enneline
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posted May 21, 2014 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just with a crash or something like that. We were not able to develop a relationship. In our case: BS

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posted May 21, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His sun oppose my moon. His moon trine my sun.

We have venus-venus, mars-mars, venus-mars dw, all trines though. Does those count ? I think by "major aspects" you mean the squares, oppositions and conjunctions?

I think they smooth out the tension from other challenging aspects.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
Just with a crash or something like that. We were not able to develop a relationship. In our case: BS

BS...what do you mean?

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 21, 2014 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BS = bullshi...

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posted May 21, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
His sun oppose my moon. His moon trine my sun.

We have venus-venus, mars-mars, venus-mars dw, all trines though. Does those count ? I think by "major aspects" you mean the squares, oppositions and conjunctions?

I think they smooth out the tension from other challenging aspects.


Major aspects: conjunction, opposition, square, trine, sextile, quincunx.

Great aspects, muddy, are you together? For how long? How does it play out?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
BS = bullshi...


I know I know but what does she mean?

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 21, 2014 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think she was trying to say that the supposed power of these aspects is BS. In her case.

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Lotis White
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posted May 21, 2014 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

It might be a good idea to mention what kind of orb you're interested in as well. There are some people out there who still consider Moon at 3 Aries trine Sun at 15 Sagittarius a significant aspect despite the 12 degree separation. Whereas others won't even consider an aspect significant unless it's within 3 degrees. Personally, I lean more towards the later camp.

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posted May 21, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I think she was trying to say that the supposed power of these aspects is BS. In her case.


You read my mind!

We had sun conjunct moon, moon opposite sun and double whammy mars/venus. We didn't even have sex.

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posted May 21, 2014 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for explaining that for me.

Yeah we've been together for a few years. We fight sometimes but we make up quickly. There is a "sweet" undertone in the relationship - like we do all of these cheesy, fluffly, playful romantic things . I guess those aspects sorta "bring" out that side in us. Coz on our own, neither of us is particularly sweet.

I'm more even-tempered and agreeable when he's around. Didn't notice it at first but yeah other people commented on it.

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posted May 21, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Leeloo,

It might be a good idea to mention what kind of orb you're interested in as well. There are some people out there who still consider Moon at 3 Aries trine Sun at 15 Sagittarius a significant aspect despite the 12 degree separation. Whereas others won't even consider an aspect significant unless it's within 3 degrees. Personally, I lean more towards the later camp.



You're right, Lotis, thanks for that.
First of all, all minor aspects must be 2 deg. max.
For me, if there is a possibility for a DW, for example if you have one close major aspect (under 2 for quincunx, max. 5 for the rest) or one tight minor aspect, the other MAJOR aspect can have a wider orb, a maximum orb of 10 for conjunction, opposition and trine, 6 for sextile, 3 for quincunx.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Thank you for explaining that for me.

Yeah we've been together for a few years. We fight sometimes but we make up quickly. There is a "sweet" undertone in the relationship - like we do all of these cheesy, fluffly, playful romantic things . I guess those aspects sorta "bring" out that side in us. Coz on our own, neither of us is particularly sweet.

I'm more even-tempered and agreeable when he's around. Didn't notice it at first but yeah other people commented on it.


Thanks! Can you share the signs/house of your aspects?

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posted May 21, 2014 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His 9th house libra sun oppose my 3rd house aries moon - 2'47

His 8th house virgo moon trine my 12th house cap sun - 3'16

His 8th house virgo mars trine my 12th house cap venus - 2'28

His 8th house virgo venus trine my 4th house taurus mars - 4'37

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
His 9th house libra sun oppose my 3rd house aries moon - 2'47

His 8th house virgo moon trine my 12th house cap sun - 3'16

His 8th house virgo mars trine my 12th house cap venus - 2'28

His 8th house virgo venus trine my 4th house taurus mars - 4'37


Awesome soulmatey 8th/12th/4th and spiritual aspects (9th/3rd), tight orbs too. Thanks, Muddy

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 21, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
Me and Cusp

What are the sign/house/orb of your aspects, tgem?

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posted May 21, 2014 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are the sign/house/orb of your aspects, tgem?

My Taurus sun in 11th bQ his Sag moon in 3rd at 1 deg.
His Cap sun in 4th trines my Gem moon in 12th at 6 deg.

His Cap mars in 3rd quincunx and contraparallel my Gem venus in 12th at 1. My Leo mars quincunx his Pis venus in 5th at 2.

How does that look?

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posted May 21, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
My Taurus sun in 11th bQ his Sag moon in 3rd at 1 deg.
His Cap sun in 4th trines my Gem moon in 12th at 6 deg.

His Cap mars in 3rd quincunx my Gem venus in 12th at 1. My Leo mars quincunx his Pis venus in 5th at 2.

How does that look?


There's a chance though that his moon is actually in his 2nd, sun in 3rd, venus in 4th, depending on the ASC time..it's close.

And my Leo mars is in my 2nd for equal, 3rd using Placidus.

What's really interesting is we both have sun parallel moon in our natals (me north, him south.) and we both have venus sextile mars in our natals.

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posted May 21, 2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, Enneline, I know and like you since the thread 'who named the asteroids'. It's my question too, although I forgot to ask . But it reminds me of another question 'who is IQ'. How can he come up with those discoveries and claim to be part of normal earth people.

Cappy, maybe you should start a thread on good strong aspects that didn't work, and we'll see how often is the case for others too.

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posted May 21, 2014 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
There's a chance though that his moon is actually in his 2nd, sun in 3rd, venus in 4th, depending on the ASC time..it's close.

And my Leo mars is in my 2nd for equal, 3rd using Placidus.

What's really interesting is we both have sun parallel moon in our natals (me north, him south.) and we both have venus sextile mars in our natals.


Oh, I remember now, we don't know his ASC. In this case, however, the biquintile might not be there. The last ones are siamese pairs, or mirrors as Ceri calls them.

Great idea of a thread for aspects that didn't work.

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posted May 21, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Lol, Enneline, I know and like you since the thread 'who named the asteroids'. It's my question too, although I forgot to ask . But it reminds me of another question 'who is IQ'. How can he come up with those discoveries and claim to be part of normal earth people.

Cappy, maybe you should start a thread on good strong aspects that didn't work, and we'll see how often is the case for others too.


Yeah I really don't mean to offend anyone and I do believe in astrology BUT time changes...maybe there are far more zodiac signs than we know...maybe the stars change quickly and we don't even notice...I've heard that from a very reliable psychics...and there's a free will.

Regarding asteroids: I mean, if an asteroid has been researched for a long long time I would start to believe in the interpretations but otherwise...I mean, I could go and buy an asteroid tomorrow, call it "Hitler" and claim that everyone who has a "Hitler" conjunction to one of his personal planets has the potential to become an antisemitic mass murderer.

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posted May 21, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Yeah I really don't mean to offend anyone and I do believe in astrology BUT time changes...maybe there are far more zodiac signs than we know...maybe the stars change quickly and we don't even notice...I've heard that from a very reliable psychics...and there's a free will.

Regarding asteroids: I mean, if an asteroid has been researched for a long long time I would start to believe in the interpretations but otherwise...I mean, I could go and buy an asteroid tomorrow, call it "Hitler" and claim that everyone who has a "Hitler" conjunction to one of his personal planets has the potential to become an antisemitic mass murderer.


In my opinion, the asteroids, and the planets, have the meaning we project on them. They don't have those qualities per se. Who would believe that Venus, which is an an actual hell, in physical terms, would be the planet of love?

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