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Topic: Insight Please! Strange overwhelming attraction
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aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 09:13 AM
Hi all. I need some insight on my situation with this guy i've been talking to. So i met this guy almost two years ago online. We talked everyday since then as a friends, then eventually it's continue to feel romantic. The odd part is we haven't met at all, we communicate online and by mail sometimes. Plus i'm still married to my soon-gonna be-my ex-husband now, i'm still going through a divorce. He knows it all, and i don't know why that it doesn't seem like bother him a lot,he is really persistent to pursue this thing further and make it into real. He gonna visit me this fall. I feel it really strange since i guess i have a feeling for him too, and it feels soo intense, it freaking me out and overwhelming. I have never felt this way to someone i haven't met before. So guys, I need some insight from you all. And it would be a huge help if you can give me some input about my situation now. This is our synastry chart : http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y440/purplegennie/synastry_zps696b56dc.jpg And this is our composite chart : http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y440/purplegennie/composite_zps3b4bf05c.jpg Thanks in advance IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 406 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 11:07 AM
Oh geesh, I'm not that great with these types of charts. Would it be possible to post individual placements of each of you? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 1874 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 21, 2014 11:10 AM
His Uranus on your ASC might explain a lot.IP: Logged |
AlexDern Knowflake Posts: 327 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted May 21, 2014 11:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: His Uranus on your ASC might explain a lot.
Yes...it would seem that his Uranus on your ascendant is solid indication of a stone like attraction. IP: Logged |
ail221 Moderator Posts: 4211 From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 21, 2014 11:26 AM
Much easier to read with the aspect grid present. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1190 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 21, 2014 11:37 AM
do you have his TOB correct?IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 3454 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted May 21, 2014 03:31 PM
That is the effect of Pluto square Venus/SaturnIP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1442 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 21, 2014 07:12 PM
Well, his stern and controlled mars/saturn squares your stellium and his Sun opposes it. You are in the middle of a crossfire. When you have so much concentrated energy in a stellium, and somebody comes along and double square and opposes it, its pretty irresistible. They rattle your cage. IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 12:54 PM
Hi guys, thanks for your replies. Here are our interaspect :Chiron Conjunction Sun Orb0°18' AS Conjunction UranusOrb3°37' Mars Conjunction Neptune Orb7°45' Jupiter Conjunction MCOrb7°51' Jupiter Conjunction SunOrb9°49' Neptune Opposite SunOrb1°47' Uranus Opposite Sun Orb3°48' Jupiter Opposite Neptune Orb6°22' Mercury Opposite Sun Orb7°06' Saturn Opposite SunOrb7°59' Mars Opposite SunOrb8°26' Neptune Square Mars Orb0°57' Chiron Square MarsOrb2°25' Neptune Square Saturn Orb2°28' Venus Square PlutoOrb2°32' Mercury Square Saturn Orb2°51' Saturn Square SaturnOrb3°43' ChironS quare SaturnOrb3°56' Mercury Square MarsOrb4°22' Saturn Square Pluto Orb4°41' Saturn Square MarsOrb5°14' Mercury Square PlutoOrb5°34' Venus Square Saturn Orb5°53' Sun Trine MarsOrb0°33' Node Trine Saturn Orb0°48' Jupiter Trine Jupiter Orb1°07' Sun Trine Saturn Orb2°04' Node Trine Mars Orb2°19' Venus Trine AS Orb3°08' Sun Trine Venus Orb3°53' Node Trine MercuryOrb4°26' MC Trine NeptuneOrb4°53' Saturn Trine AS Orb5°18' IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 12:59 PM
Hi guys, thanks for your replies. Here are our interaspects:Chiron Conjunction Sun Orb0°18' AS Conjunction UranusOrb3°37' Mars Conjunction Neptune Orb7°45' Jupiter Conjunction MCOrb7°51' Jupiter Conjunction SunOrb9°49' Neptune Opposite SunOrb1°47' Uranus Opposite Sun Orb3°48' Jupiter Opposite Neptune Orb6°22' Mercury Opposite Sun Orb7°06' Saturn Opposite SunOrb7°59' Mars Opposite SunOrb8°26' Neptune Square Mars Orb0°57' Chiron Square MarsOrb2°25' Neptune Square Saturn Orb2°28' Venus Square PlutoOrb2°32' Mercury Square Saturn Orb2°51' Saturn Square SaturnOrb3°43' ChironS quare SaturnOrb3°56' Mercury Square MarsOrb4°22' Saturn Square Pluto Orb4°41' Saturn Square MarsOrb5°14' Mercury Square PlutoOrb5°34' Venus Square Saturn Orb5°53' Sun Trine MarsOrb0°33' Node Trine Saturn Orb0°48' Jupiter Trine Jupiter Orb1°07' Sun Trine Saturn Orb2°04' Node Trine Mars Orb2°19' Venus Trine AS Orb3°08' Sun Trine Venus Orb3°53' Node Trine MercuryOrb4°26' MC Trine NeptuneOrb4°53' Saturn Trine AS Orb5°18' IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: do you have his TOB correct?
I don't know his exact time of birth IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlexDern: Yes...it would seem that his Uranus on your ascendant is solid indication of a stone like attraction.
Does it something bad? I feel a lil bit unsure about the feeling though
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aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: That is the effect of Pluto square Venus/Saturn
Can you tell me more about that effect? IP: Logged |
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: That is the effect of Pluto square Venus/Saturn
Oh my dear aquavelvelt! ^ I second this ^ I have a chart similar to your person of interest; he's probably born a month after me. You have a chart similar to a person I'm experiencing the same intense attraction you have described, but I don't speak to him. I'm also separated from my husband, but he's always know of my attraction to this other person. It's a crazy intense feeling, isn't it?! Not only does my saturn/ pluto square his venus/mercury/saturn, but these planets overlay my 8th house.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 22, 2014 03:57 PM
The possibility of the SUN conjunct MOON can be a draw. MOON conjunct MARS will also create drama, intensity and a primal response. The composite isn't very binding, however. MOON square MARS is a firecracker. It can be motivating with emotional maturity. Otherwise, arguments, heated emotions, drama, and so on. The synastric conjunction and composite square of these two points to some very difficult, potent emotions. As I said, a primal response. The MERCURY-VENUS conjunction shows the friendship and camaraderie on a mental / aesthetic level. It's if you guys start venturing into emotional and sexual territory that the ugly stuff will start presenting. And, take it from me; that's a level that can't be reached online. Not even remotely. The NNODE-SUN conjunction indicates the sense of fatedness. But, as they say, it looks 'fated not destined'. Synastrically, the NNODE conjunct CHIRON points to the purpose of connexion being healing. Good luck this fall. Quite a lot can happen between a proposed meeting and an actual one. Best to keep your wits about you. IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 07:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Well, his stern and controlled mars/saturn squares your stellium and his Sun opposes it. You are in the middle of a crossfire. When you have so much concentrated energy in a stellium, and somebody comes along and double square and opposes it, its pretty irresistible. They rattle your cage.
I feel it, he rattles my cage somehow. But i don't know why we're still sticking to each others though i knew and i'm pretty sure he knew as well that theres a lot of difficult things hitting us here and there IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 1442 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 22, 2014 07:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquavelvet: I feel it, he rattles my cage somehow. But i don't know why we're still sticking to each others though i knew and i'm pretty sure he knew as well that theres a lot of difficult things hitting us here and there
Well, you still havent met in real life, so there is a lot of fantasy and projection going on now. Wait until you see hair sticking out of his nose!
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aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars: Oh my dear aquavelvelt! ^ I second this ^ I have a chart similar to your person of interest; he's probably born a month after me. You have a chart similar to a person I'm experiencing the same intense attraction you have described, but I don't speak to him. I'm also separated from my husband, but he's always know of my attraction to this other person. It's a crazy intense feeling, isn't it?! Not only does my saturn/ pluto square his venus/mercury/saturn, but these planets overlay my 8th house. This is our synastry:
(His TOB is unknown) Let me know if you have questions I can help you with!
hey yeah it seems me and your guy have the simillar caps stellium there. And yes, it's freaking intense (at least to me) and he told me that he might be crazy though. How is it going with you guys now? IP: Logged |
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 07:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquavelvet: hey yeah it seems me and your guy have the simillar caps stellium there. And yes, it's freaking intense (at least to me) and he told me that he might be crazy though. How is it going with you guys now?
My husband and I don't live together, but we are still married, so I try to keep my distance from my cap stellium friend. The attraction is magnetic and intense though like nothing I've experienced thus far, so as Indigo cautioned, do keep your wits about you. I can sense the possibility of such an intense attraction turning very ugly. Be prepared because as the pluto/saturn person, it's very hard to be near him and exercise control over my urges. I am normally a pretty restrained person especially when it comes down to my behavior in a crowd, and things like PDA, but when he's near me ohhhhh the things I have to stop myself from doing!!!! I don't trust myself because it has come to a point where I don't want to control myself, so I have to completely remove myself from the situation. Had we ever been left alone together, ohhh boy!!! If you feel this intensity over the internet, imagine in person. IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 08:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: The possibility of the SUN conjunct MOON can be a draw. MOON conjunct MARS will also create drama, intensity and a primal response. The composite isn't very binding, however. MOON square MARS is a firecracker. It can be motivating with emotional maturity. Otherwise, arguments, heated emotions, drama, and so on. The synastric conjunction and composite square of these two points to some very difficult, potent emotions. As I said, a primal response. The MERCURY-VENUS conjunction shows the friendship and camaraderie on a mental / aesthetic level. It's if you guys start venturing into emotional and sexual territory that the ugly stuff will start presenting. And, take it from me; that's a level that can't be reached online. Not even remotely. The NNODE-SUN conjunction indicates the sense of fatedness. But, as they say, it looks 'fated not destined'. Synastrically, the NNODE conjunct CHIRON points to the purpose of connexion being healing. Good luck this fall. Quite a lot can happen between a proposed meeting and an actual one. Best to keep your wits about you.
Oh my goodness, now it scaring me off. Theres yes a lot of drama between us especially in the first year of us talking. And lies and manipulation too that came from my end, i feel like this feeling is freaking overwhelming and it projecting some fear that makes me tend to build up a wall and guarding myself more. There was times when i pushing him away and trying to back off, but soon after it felt a lot more hurtful to not in touch with him at all. When we were in argument, it's terrible. We would end up pretty hurt then giving each other silent treatment. It's passive aggresive, it's push and pull, it's love and hate. But in the end of those days we always got back to each other, circle of fire. Now actually the heat getting cool off, i'm trying to take it all easier and he seems like more understanding. But the feeling still there, so crazy intense. Though i, still, can't lie that i'm pretty unsure about this and him. Lately he telling me constantly hat he loves me and want us to live together in the real life soon after this fall. I'm so glad and over the cloud. But at the same time i think like "really?are you kidding? Thats crazy" Anyway, i'm intrigued of knowing more about that 'fated but not destined' thing you mentioned. What does it means to my interaction with him? IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 08:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Well, you still havent met in real life, so there is a lot of fantasy and projection going on now. Wait until you see hair sticking out of his nose!
Thats what i thought, it's all fantasy. But the feeling scared the crap out of me. I don't know if i even dare to see his nose even IP: Logged |
aquavelvet Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 09:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars: My husband and I don't live together, but we are still married, so I try to keep my distance from my cap stellium friend. The attraction is magnetic and intense though like nothing I've experienced thus far, so as Indigo cautioned, do keep your wits about you. I can sense the possibility of such an intense attraction turning very ugly. Be prepared because as the pluto/saturn person, it's very hard to be near him and exercise control over my urges. I am normally a pretty restrained person especially when it comes down to my behavior in a crowd, and things like PDA, but when he's near me ohhhhh the things I have to stop myself from doing!!!! I don't trust myself because it has come to a point where I don't want to control myself, so I have to completely remove myself from the situation. Had we ever been left alone together, ohhh boy!!! If you feel this intensity over the internet, imagine in person.
I can relate to how does it feel when we're still haven't completely divorced with the current spouse. Good for you that you guys could cut it off regarding of that fact. I have told him about my situation and the possibilities of the impossible chances because of my situation here, as well as his hard situation regarding his job there. And he just like "whatever, i don't care. Screw it" and we're still talking and talking. Even now he has been talking about future and stuff. What a dream, right? And it seems really good to be true that makes me sometimes want to make it real too. He gonna be here this fall (he said), now i don't know if i would have a gut to face him, even though i want to meet him so bad. But the fear brought me into this board, and reading these replies on this thread makes me scared more. I need to breathe, lol
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ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted May 22, 2014 09:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquavelvet: I can relate to how does it feel when we're still haven't completely divorced with the current spouse. Good for you that you guys could cut it off regarding of that fact. I have told him about my situation and the possibilities of the impossible chances because of my situation here, as well as his hard situation regarding his job there. And he just like "whatever, i don't care. Screw it" and we're still talking and talking. Even now he has been talking about future and stuff. What a dream, right? And it seems really good to be true that makes me sometimes want to make it real too. He gonna be here this fall (he said), now i don't know if i would have a gut to face him, even though i want to meet him so bad. But the fear brought me into this board, and reading these replies on this thread makes me scared more. I need to breathe, lol
I totally understand! It's crazy-making stuff! Lol. Deep breaths! His sun/NN opposite your neptune can explain the lies and feeling likes it's too good to be true. The pluto contacts can explain the manipulation. In my experience as the pluto person, this site ( http://astrologybits.com/venus-pluto-in-synastry/ ) gives a pretty accurate description for venus square pluto. It's really intense for me since his planets overlay my 8th house, squares not only pluto, but the ruler of my 8th too. It's just madness! Lol. You're wariness is completely justified. I think I've even read that venus square pluto is associated as a rape aspect. On top of that, the NN Chiron conjunction that indigo mentioned is another red flag. While a theme of healing is possible, the theme of pain is just as likely. Here's what Ami Anne has to say about it: "In synastry, if the planet of pain, Chiron, in one person, touches the NN of the other person, the relationship will have a pain theme. One may ask, “Should I leave the relationship based on this?” I could not answer that, obviously. In every synastry, there will be hard factors. I will try to explain how I see Chiron conjunct the NN playing out in a long term marriage. Chiron conjunct the NN does NOT mean that every minute of the marriage will be fraught with pain. Chiron is an attractor to people,also. In many synastries, Chrion conjuncts planets between people. This is not, necessarily bad. One shares one’s pain in one’s intimate relationships. However, with Chiron conjunct the NN in synastry, one of the main themes, perhaps THE main theme will BE pain, in my experience. The pain is not a 24/7 event. There are many periods of time which are not painful. There are many shared events which are not painful. However, if one looks at the relationship, as a whole , from a future vantage point,for example, one would describe it as having a theme of pain. That is my my point of view." On top of this, his Chiron conjuncts your descendant. I cannot tell you exactly what it means, but pain and healing should be factors to consider. On a positive note, if the relationship causes you to grow and transform for the better then it may be worth the risk. I'm sure with all that tough cap energy, you are a force to be reckoned with. All these heavy aspects are likely to present in a negative or difficult way, but it's your choice as to what you make out of it. There are no easy answers in this scenario. What you have going for you is that you are aware of what energies are at play and what to look out for. IP: Logged | |