posted May 27, 2014 12:37 AM            

"My ex had a Moon/Pluto opposition and during the years we were together, I saw many of his friends and coworkers get very jealous towards him. He's a very happy go lucky type of guy, so I always thought it was weird that so many guys were jealous of him. Guys tend to be more openly competitive, but he seemed to bring out catty rather than competitive behavior in a lot of guys. It was like they wanted to see him fail, and I've seen friends of his get mad when he accomplished something, rather than being happy for him as a friend should be. I think Moon/Pluto tends to bring the hater out in others."

Does anybody have this same problem
especially with men or even women on this site? I'm a guy and sometimes I have this problem or with people at work in general. But i know that some ppl are just negative rather we like it or not,but I just want some opinions. You guys/girls on here are very insightful.

I also have some other oppositions and squares to my moon sign (It's 24 degrees in leo in the 11th house.) and my Pluto in in Scorpio in the 2nd house

Here are some aspects in my chart.

posted May 27, 2014 12:59 AM            

I have Moon trine Pluto. Pluto in the 1st House also. I do sometimes attract jealously - sometimes people feel "inferior" to me and I find this confusing. I personally never put people down and I loathe arrogance. I'm a unifier, not a divider! But no matter how kind I am to them...some people will still envy me and will be secretly bitter inside.

My reaction?? Tough cookies. Cry me a river. Go find YOUR purpose & get a life! I don't let ignorant people bring me down - I may become annoyed, but never depressed by them. I remain confident & positive and that makes them even more upset.

posted May 27, 2014 02:32 AM            

I have Moon opposition Pluto… sometimes I think my friends subconsciously want to bring me down or they're scared of me changing for the better because I already get enough attention as it is. Yes, I sound arrogant but I'm only stating what I think from observation. All my friends know I want to lose weight and only one of them actually goes out of her way to SUPPORT that - as an example - meaning she'll spend time walking with me instead of going out to eat, or if we do go out to eat we go somewhere healthy like Cool Greens instead of McDonald's, even if it's pricier. More than anything I attract people who like provoking me and getting under my skin. I think my otherwise calm nature annoys them because it's even more subdued by a trine to Saturn. I think they do this to see how much or if I care at all because I may not seem like I do otherwise from being so stoic.

So to answer your question, yes I attract people that want negative attention, people who try to suppress me, and people who want to "possess" me in a way (I have a large personality - again, I get that to average people it's "threatening.") I attract people who feel a need to one up me over little, detailed things I'd give no thought to otherwise. It's nature of the beast. I think these people are so wrapped up in their Plutonian themes they don't realize I do, in fact, see what they're doing and choose to keep being myself and ignoring their negativity. Or try anyway.

posted May 27, 2014 04:12 AM            

I have Moon trine Pluto. I've encountered quite a few instances in which people tried to plot or do things against me so that I could "fail" or stumble. It never worked/works out though and I always end up on top.

I've had a "friend" in elementary who lied to my other friends that I talked badly about them behind their backs. This "friend" was always bragging about the car her step-dad drove and how she got the coolest clothes all the time (which admittedly so, I too was naive and materialistic at that stage in my life) but she lived in a simple condo and her parents really didn't have "all that". After discovering that I lived in a neighborhood that was considered "upper class" in that city and she saw my home and met my family, she started telling lies to other friends of mine that I was talking behind their backs which basically alienated me for most of the year. Long story short the poor girl had a history of lying alot and before the school year ended her trail of lies caught up with her and nobody really talked to her after that (and some apologized to me for believing her).

I've also had "friends" bash a crush or guy I was going out with only to literally date them after me and then boast in my face about their new "boo".

A "friend" who literally told me she was jealous of me (which again, being naive ol' me I didn't take seriously at first) and she would always try and 1 up me and boast if she did something "better" than me. Also coincidentally met another girl my freshman year of college with the same birthdate who had the same behavior towards me (actually worse imo) and would try to belittle me if I didn't know about a certain subject that she was well versed in.It got to a point where I didn't even feel like sharing my interests because she always had some snide remark to say about it. I ceased contact with both girls and haven't looked back.

And this year I had a ex-roommate that switched roles and tried to bs me into paying her $20/month for posters and two shelves that I never used nor told her to buy, tissue (which by the way the dorm provided in tons for free), and her wifi (which we all had a mutual agreement to share since I brought my microwave, tv, dvd player, etc. for the room to use.) and can you guess when she started acting like this? Literally after a night that our other roommate threw a mini party and one of the only non-sleazy guys invited approached and talked to me the whole night over everyone else in the room (even gave me his number). I didn't think much of it at the time, but looking back it is weirdly ironic that her behavior did a 180 so fast. I also found out that she was saying racial slurs as well in her little clique of "friends" (and considering the guy from that night was white and I'm not, that may have sparked that reaction from her as well). She too ended up having her tail handed to her at the beginning of the semester and pretty much avoided me the rest of the year (would even sleep in the living room rather than her bed that was on the same side as mine lol).

posted May 27, 2014 05:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
^ I wouldn't consider them to be friends or associates then if that were the case.

I have Moon trine Pluto. I've encountered quite a few instances in which people tried to plot or do things against me so that I could "fail" or stumble. It never worked/works out though and I always end up on top.

I've had a "friend" in elementary who lied to my other friends that I talked badly about them behind their backs. This "friend" was always bragging about the car her step-dad drove and how she got the coolest clothes all the time (which admittedly so, I too was naive and materialistic at that stage in my life) but she lived in a simple condo and her parents really didn't have "all that". After discovering that I lived in a neighborhood that was considered "upper class" in that city and she saw my home and met my family, she started telling lies to other friends of mine that I was talking behind their backs which basically alienated me for most of the year. Long story short the poor girl had a history of lying alot and before the school year ended her trail of lies caught up with her and nobody really talked to her after that (and some apologized to me for believing her).

I've also had "friends" bash a crush or guy I was going out with only to literally date them after me and then boast in my face about their new "boo".

A "friend" who literally told me she was jealous of me (which again, being naive ol' me I didn't take seriously at first) and she would always try and 1 up me and boast if she did something "better" than me. Also coincidentally met another girl my freshman year of college with the same birthdate who had the same behavior towards me (actually worse imo) and would try to belittle me or if I didn't know about a certain subject that she was well versed in.It got to a point where I didn't even feel like sharing my interests because she always had some snide remark to say about it. I ceased contact with both girls and haven't looked back.

And this year I had a ex-roommate that switched roles and tried to bs me into paying her $20/month for posters and two shelves that I never used nor told her to buy, tissue (which by the way the dorm provided in tons for free), and her wifi (which we all had a mutual agreement to share since I brought my microwave, tv, dvd player, etc. for the room to use.) and can you guess when she started acting like this? Literally after a night that our other roommate threw a mini party and one of the only non-sleazy guys invited approached and talked to me the whole night over everyone else in the room (even gave me his number). I didn't think much of it at the time, but looking back it is weirdly ironic that her behavior did a 180 so fast. I also found out that she was saying racial slurs as well in her little clique of "friends" (and considering the guy from that night was white and I'm not, that may have sparked that reaction from her as well). She too ended up having her tail handed to her at the beginning of the semester and pretty much avoided me the rest of the year (would even sleep in the living room rather than her bed that was on the same side as mine lol).

But I will say that these instances don't happen alot though thankfully. If anything I think that over the years with having a Moon/Pluto aspect I've gotten better at detecting whats under the surface of people in a sense that I can just instinctively tell if they have my best interest or not despite how "friendly" they seem (and to date I have not been wrong on any of my hunches). I think that when I was younger, I would ignore those gut feelings and try so hard to be someone's friend that I would end up hurt when I found out that said "friends" didn't really like me after all.

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Wow, I loved how you guys/girls gave perfect experiences and great opinions. Does a trine make it better to deal with? I have a Mooon square pluto and it does make things intense between people sometimes. I feel like sometimes I can feel how ppl feel about me instantly when meeting them. Like when i'm at work for instance,I just knew that it was rumors going around about me. But I only work like literally two days a week,so tell me how i'm always getting blamed for something? It can be the most pettiest things.
I know i'm a very hard worker (Sun Square Saturn) that takes my job (even though it's retail) serious. I always get that one person that tries to bring me down so bad,I mean to the point were the hate is so thick that you can cut it with a knife,lmao! I have no reason why this always happens,but i'm always respectful ( 01 Libra rising) to people. So it does get to me because I hate disharmony!

posted May 27, 2014 08:21 AM            

Plus, people usually fear change, if they see someone sticking out in a crowd because their personality shines brighter than theirs, there is going to be envy. People do not like change usually, hence insecurities getting directed towards Pluto people.

posted May 27, 2014 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Plus, people usually fear change, if they see someone sticking out in a crowd because their personality shines brighter than theirs, there is going to be envy. People do not like change usually, hence insecurities getting directed towards Pluto people.

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posted May 27, 2014 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Wow, I loved how you guys/girls gave perfect experiences and great opinions. Does a trine make it better to deal with? I have a Mooon square pluto and it does make things intense between people sometimes. I feel like sometimes I can feel how ppl feel about me instantly when meeting them. Like when i'm at work for instance,I just knew that it was rumors going around about me. But I only work like literally two days a week,so tell me how i'm always getting blamed for something? It can be the most pettiest things.
I know i'm a very hard worker (Sun Square Saturn) that takes my job (even though it's retail) serious. I always get that one person that tries to bring me down so bad,I mean to the point were the hate is so thick that you can cut it with a knife,lmao! I have no reason why this always happens,but i'm always respectful ( 01 Libra rising) to people. So it does get to me because I hate disharmony!

But your comments and others were awesome.

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I think the trine just allows me to use the energies of both the Moon and Pluto smoother than the harder aspects.

I have Sun opposite Saturn too and I'm the same way with work lol. I think this aspect partly explains why I used to be so surprised when people did things against me because I didn't see anything about me to be jealous of (tad on the self critical side personally). But now I just know to not question it whenever I get a certain feeling from someone.

posted May 27, 2014 01:09 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
"^ I wouldn't consider them to be friends or associates then if that were the case."

Anybody can say that but when you've been friends for years, are you really going to cast them out because of their flaws? It's rather intolerant considering we all have our shadow sides.

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posted May 27, 2014 01:44 PM            

I've noticed jealousy from females close to me. My sister used to torture me anyway she could for many years. I broke down one day and asked her why she hated me so much and she said it was because I was so perfect.

posted May 27, 2014 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
If they had jealous tendencies towards me since the beginning of our friendship then yes I would cut ties as soon as possible. I personally try to befriend and associate with people in my life who aren't hurtful/jealous/trying to hinder me and instead I embrace people who are positive and encourage growth. Yes we all have shadow sides, but I see no reason as to why a person shouldn't surround themselves with people who genuinely love and care for them.

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posted May 27, 2014 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I totally agree, I'm just trying to clarify that maybe with Moon / Pluto people and their friends these shadow sides come out after awhile and aren't instant. I mean someone trying to bring me down immediately is an enemy, not a friend, lol!

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posted May 27, 2014 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
oh, that's awesome and I get that inferior thing too, maybe its my mars in leo? What's your moon sign or scoprio sign,if you dont mind me asking?

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I don't know about Mars/Leo bringing on jealousy. Maybe?

My Moon is in Cancer, Pluto is in Scorpio. Jupiter in Pisces completes my Grand Trine.

posted May 27, 2014 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:

I have Moon trine Pluto. I've encountered quite a few instances in which people tried to plot or do things against me so that I could "fail" or stumble. It never worked/works out though and I always end up on top.

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I don't know if us having the Trine has anything to do with it. But I feel this exact same way. I generally come out on top while they look like an absolute fool! Hilarious! Lol.

posted May 27, 2014 09:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I don't know if us having the Trine has anything to do with it. But I feel this exact same way. I generally come out on top while they look like an absolute fool! Hilarious! Lol.

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Ikr, when someone starts acting funny I'm just like:

posted May 27, 2014 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
I have Moon opposite Pluto.

I've noticed jealousy from females close to me. My sister used to torture me anyway she could for many years. I broke down one day and asked her why she hated me so much and she said it was because I was so perfect.

I end up being lonely a lot because I feel no one understands me, especially from my own gender.

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posted May 27, 2014 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by TuxLuigi:
I know someone who has Moon trine Pluto. But that's the only person I've ever been jealous of

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Interesting to know.

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
If they had jealous tendencies towards me since the beginning of our friendship then yes I would cut ties as soon as possible. I personally try to befriend and associate with people in my life who aren't hurtful/jealous/trying to hinder me and instead I embrace people who are positive and encourage growth.

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Absolutely agree! I will cut you off so freaking fast if I sense that you are BSing me. I waste NO TIME on insecure backstabbers.