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meissieri
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posted May 27, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some interpretations say the IC really is your deepest need. Your inner self and very private.

After a recent talk, I've realized that a lot of what I need has to do with my IC. It's very emphasized with 4 planets conjunct and 2 of them in my 4th house (Moon and Neptune). The 4th house is linked to Cancer, which rules the stomach and it is often said that you can feel and process emotions in there.


So long story short, what is your IC and does it describe what you need the most to feel okay?
Feel free to add planets conjunct or in the 4th if you wish.
And of course the moon influence as well.

Like... if you have an Aquarius IC, do you need to be independent and do your own thing, feel free?
Or as a Gemini IC - talking, constant new information and new opportunities?

I'm wondering if this theory works with you guys here.

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meissieri
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posted May 27, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for myself...

Like I said, I have 4 planets here. My IC, my private, emotional self is very emphasized. And it's true, I feel everything through my stomach. My intuition, if I bother listening to it, tells me a lot.
Some of that has to do with my tight Moon-Chiron opposition, I'm sure, but I guess this adds to it.

One of them is my Moon in H4, a very good place for that. I definitely need space to show and express my feelings. Especially the more sensitive kinds that may be seen as dependent, childish, etc. I have a Cap IC with ruler Saturn conjunct - I was forced to grow up fast. The way I was raised... I had to repress everything and just "grow up" "get over it", etc. It seemed like good grades or my paintings - material things - were more important to my family than how I felt.

Saturn: Stability, taking things seriously, making progress, some patience. Yeah, I appreciate all of these a lot. As my IC and moon ruler, my 3rd house is really important too.
Neptune: Imagination, mutual compassion, being able to help each other and share the pain. Also some time alone now and then, turning inward.
Uranus - freedom to be me. Which is mostly just being accepted for being sensitive - likely much more than others.

People here have said it. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of you guys here could've sworn I'm a Cancer, or at least having it in my big three.

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posted May 27, 2014 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hy! for me it fits! I have taurus IC, with a stellium in taurus- sun(even if it;s gem, 1st degree, venus and mercury) hmm..conjunctions...well the obvious sun conj merc, sun conj venus , venus conj mercury....
( all these planets oppose pluto)
I crave foood! :D hihi
Home is where I feel safe and also struggling with pains ( the pluto thing)
I am a total homebody..I like to have friends at my house and cook food for them, and stuff them, have pleasing conversations, listen good music...also is my place of thinking, learning...I learn best in my house..what can I say...I am fulfilled , except the pluto thing- storms I preffer not to talk about:)

moon is my fist house in cap, and it doesn't have conj with planets in 4th. but trines, she trines venus, and trines mercury :) ( I have moon, neptune, uranus and saturn in 1st, interesting positions of yours)

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posted May 27, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioninash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
meissieri, i believe we have planets in the same houses
i have moon in 4th as well as uranus, saturn and neptune in 3rd.
i have an aquarius ic, and yes i love my independence and freedom, to a fault.
im so used to doing things alone and for myself that when i actually want to be around people and do things with them, i look around and say to myself "where did all my friends go?".. yeah, too busy being independent by myself :P but then again my 11th house of friendships is empty soooo there's that.

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meissieri
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posted May 27, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do we all have the same stellium?

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Hy! for me it fits! I have taurus IC, with a stellium in taurus- sun(even if it;s gem, 1st degree, venus and mercury) hmm..conjunctions...well the obvious sun conj merc, sun conj venus , venus conj mercury....
( all these planets oppose pluto)
I crave foood! hihi
Home is where I feel safe and also struggling with pains ( the pluto thing)
I am a total homebody..I like to have friends at my house and cook food for them, and stuff them, have pleasing conversations, listen good music...also is my place of thinking, learning...I learn best in my house..what can I say...I am fulfilled , except the pluto thing- storms I preffer not to talk about

moon is my fist house in cap, and it doesn't have conj with planets in 4th. but trines, she trines venus, and trines mercury ( I have moon, neptune, uranus and saturn in 1st, interesting positions of yours)


Ahh I love it. Straightforward Taurus with the food, enjoying good life and comfort. Is your Venus in the 4th as well? That'd be even more emphasis on Taurus things.

With the moon in your 1st, are you also very focused on your body, how you present yourself, etc?

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posted May 27, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IC in Sagittarius
I need to be freeeee and independent!
Lilith (Sag)
I need to be free and independent?
Uranus (Cap)
Have I mentioned freedom and independence? Oh, and I need an unusual and exciting life too.
Mercury (Sag)
I need to find the truth and learn things! And create my own religion

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posted May 27, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lioninash:
meissieri, i believe we have planets in the same houses
i have moon in 4th as well as uranus, saturn and neptune in 3rd.
i have an aquarius ic, and yes i love my independence and freedom, to a fault.
im so used to doing things alone and for myself that when i actually want to be around people and do things with them, i look around and say to myself "where did all my friends go?".. yeah, too busy being independent by myself :P but then again my 11th house of friendships is empty soooo there's that.

We probably do, at least some of it. But I guess your moon is in Aquarius, correct? So it's a little different. With ruler Uranus in the 3rd, do you like communication a lot as well? Or just studying, keeping your mind busy.

Haha, so obvious. Need for doing things alone, especially with an empty 11th house. Where's that ruler actually? Maybe just find friends who are just as independent as you are?

I'm trying to look at the rulers of the IC and moon as well, maybe it shows another part of life that's important.

... and as a Cap moon, I guess the 10th house ruler is also important, which is my moon in H4 again. Things come full circle!

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meissieri
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posted May 27, 2014 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
IC in Sagittarius
I need to be freeeee and independent!
Lilith (Sag)
I need to be free and independent?
Uranus (Cap)
Have I mentioned freedom and independence? Oh, and I need an unusual and exciting life too.
Mercury (Sag)
I need to find the truth and learn things! And create my own religion


Haha you should. Cappiligion Not sure what Lilith would do, maybe a wild side.

Need for travelling as well??

And again... where's your Jupiter (IC ruler)? Maybe 9th house ruler as well. (Just going by Lotus White's theory with Sag naturally ruling H9)

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posted May 27, 2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cappiligion

Beautiful
Yes, I'd love to travel. Actually, I have both Lilith asteroid and BML there. I need to be free...from my family lol.
Jupiter in the 11th (faaail) and the 9th house ruler in the 5th.

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posted May 27, 2014 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meissieri:
:laughing: Do we all have the same stellium?

Ahh I love it. Straightforward Taurus with the food, enjoying good life and comfort. Is your Venus in the 4th as well? That'd be even more emphasis on Taurus things. :)

With the moon in your 1st, are you also very focused on your body, how you present yourself, etc?


:) yes. food is important. :))) and Venus is in 4th :) I enjoy my pretty house:x
I am self-conscious, even at this age...and I have more the moodiness of the moon, and the shape of the moon as my face:D
It;s a mess in how I want to present my self , moon is like : today I want to wear a purple dress!than it changes the mind, no , better blue - Saturn is-no, wear a classy , sober outfit. Neptune is ..maybe something vaporous...dreamyy...delves into dreams..and says oh there is so much unhappiness in the world, what I am dressed like is unimportant.
Uranus is scr*w all this, I want a tatto!

Just a normal day for me:)) sorry if I divagated..emphasize * the moon is moody on me :):D

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posted May 27, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioninash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah i do have my moon in aquarius. not sure how exactly it would go along with the ic. i also have saturn directly on my ic.

and yes i feel that communication is extremely important. i can't stand silence, it drives me crazy. my 11th house is in virgo, sooo my mercury is in the 9th in cancer.. 9th has to do with spirituality, correct?
honestly it makes sense because i wish i had more friends that were as spiritual as me.. even into wicca like i am so we could do rituals together. unfortunately people like that are so hard to find, especially growing up in the pluto in scorpio era.. everyone is too involved with sex and drugs and gossip and blah blah blah.
it seems like nobody has a soul anymore.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 27, 2014 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, the ruler of the 9th is the dispositor of my Moon. Cool, isn't it?

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IC in Taurus. Nothing there.
Venus on 8th cusp.Yep. That's what I need.
Venus Mercury mutual reception. That too.

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posted May 27, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 27, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShineYourLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aries IC and I definitely feel happiest when I'm confident, energetic, doing what I want and not caring what other people think, stand up for myself etc.

I was like that as a kid but I kinda lost my way for a bit and now I feel like I have to find those qualities in myself again.

I was thinking about that today actually.

My IC Ruler, Mars is in Libra (9th House) conjunct my Chart Ruler Jupiter & squares Moon, Neptune & Uranus
My Moon is in my 1st.

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posted May 27, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
IC in Taurus. Nothing there.
Venus on 8th cusp.Yep. That's what I need.
Venus Mercury mutual reception. That too.

Where's "I need cappy?"???

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posted May 28, 2014 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 28, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Came across this when searching about IC...
http://marianneohagan.com/astrology/asc-dec-axis-and-mc-ic-axis/the-mc-ic-axis/?PHPSESSID=3f8f3585a9a340285f521e320a07cf8a

MC-Scorpio IC-Taurus ... rings true to me.

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posted May 28, 2014 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn and Venus in 4th ruled by cap, Saturn conjunct Venus, I NEED love but can never feel it.

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posted May 28, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I NEED love but can never feel it.

Everyone needs love, sweetheart. But many can't feel it, nor give it.

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Cool thread, meis. Moon/IC - needs. Makes sense.

Cancer IC.

Hm. I really need a roof over my head, and food. (nooo way)
I guess I need to feel like I belong. Somewhere, someone, that can make me feel like "home" (you know, that warm feeling of being accepted for who you are, when you feel welcome and like you're okay being where you are). Oh, I know. Safety. That's my nį1 need. I can't believe I have a Cancer IC, lol. It's kind of pitiful. Ahh there goes my Moon. Shut up!

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posted May 28, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra IC
Venus in Aries in 9H
IC is conjunct my far Sun/Moon MP and forms a YOD with them
No planets in the 4th or 3rd, but it is sextile my Mars/Uranus conjunction in Sag by 1 degree
Moon in Taurus 11H

I NEED things to be fair and beautiful (or at least well put together) for me to feel truly happy inside. Unfair treatment or actions of any kind make me feel unsettled to the core of my being and I WILL stand up and say something if I feel it's taken too far, even if it doesn't involve me directly. I can't watch it happen.

I love decorating my home and making it visually appealing. Flowers and pictures and trinkets to add a special flavor to every room. It makes me uncomfortable to be in places that aren't kept the same way, and I don't mean to look down on people for it, but sometimes I can't help it because I don't understand the difficulty in doing it or the lack of desire. Who wouldn't want their home that they have to see every morning and night to be lush and beautiful? I don't comprehend the lack of drive some people have to make this happen. Oh sure, they'll talk about it and can appreciate when others do it for themselves, but can't actually do the deed. I'm not a neat freak, my home can be messy, but not dirty or ugly. There have been places that I absolutely refuse to go to because the feeling I get when I walk through the front door is just horrible. It offends my senses and it shows in my attitude so I just don't go there anymore once a place has given me that "vibe."

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posted May 28, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio IC,
I need transformation?? Sex?? loool. I dont know...I definitely need my time alone to re-energize myself !

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posted March 20, 2020 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1* Cancer IC
Gemini Moon conjunct from the 3rd house
Uranus conjunct MC/Opposite IC
Ceres square IC/conjunct DC

I never know what makes me feel comfortably at home unless I can be totally alone and have interaction when I choose it hahahah but life doesn't usually work out so easily.

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posted March 20, 2020 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My IC is Aquarius, and I do need to be able to do my own thing.

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posted March 20, 2020 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbeth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
My IC is Aquarius, and I do need to be able to do my own thing.

Mars conjunct IC conjunct ceres, all in Scorpio
....do I want to spell the primary deduction of that? 😂

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