posted May 29, 2014 07:57 PM            

I have no answers, sorry.
That's like asking me... "How was the Earth created?" Uh, yep, no clue. Only speculations.

I don't really have an opinion on this issue, either way.

Astrologically speaking... Pretty sure an afflicted Mars, and sometimes Mercury or Moon, can do the trick.

By transit, natal Mars (or maybe even progressed Mars) being afflicted by the outer planets - Neptune, Uranus or Pluto.
Or vice-versa: transiting Mars making a hard aspect to the outers. (It represents the act of inflicting harm toward oneself.)

Mercury & Moon are both representative of the mind and suicide happens because of issues with the mind, IMO (and the emotional stuff that ensues).

posted May 29, 2014 08:55 PM            

Mercury squares Saturn and Neptune. And it's his chart ruler (Gemini ASC). In Pisces, it's very impressionable and sensitive to all kinds of energies. The Gemini ASC is also prone to mental disorders.

tMars square natal Pluto
tPluto square natal Venus, co-ruler of the 12H (subconscious, endings)
tNeptune in applying square to ASC (dissolution of boundaries, loss of ego)
tPluto & tMars in 8H (dark emotions, subconscious drives, self-destructive impulses)

posted May 29, 2014 09:08 PM            

@sis sorry about your friend..

@NeptunianSag How do you manage to get passed those aspects?

posted May 29, 2014 09:19 PM            

Mars transits are pretty short-lived. Depending on the orb, they last something like 7-8 days (1°).

posted May 30, 2014 12:32 AM            

If a person already has a depression-prone chart (heavy neptune, saturn) then he/she won't be able to deal with a harsh transit.

posted May 30, 2014 02:44 AM            

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@NeptunianSag How do you manage to get passed those aspects?

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Mostly creative expression helps me.

posted May 30, 2014 02:54 AM            

There are certain sign positions that seem predisposed to it; Sun/Moon in Cap, Sun/Moon in Scorpio,Sun/Moon in Pisces, People with Neptune on the Sun(like me) or on the Moon, People with Pluto and Neptune aspecting the luminaries as well as Mercury etc.

But it doesn't automatically mean that those people,who have the above positions, will carry it out.It depends on their state of mind when a difficult transit hits and they face a challenging situation with emotional resources that affirm the feeling of "relief" through self oblivion.

Most people that I've noted to commit suicide are the Neptune types; Moon-Neptune, Sun-Neptune, Mercury-Neptune, Neptune-Asc etc.

I think they get emotionally tired of building a life only to have Neptune's waters cover their hard work and make everything "pointless".

I used to have thoughts of suicide; romanticizing the act a lot. I even wrote poems about how good it would be to "escape life's difficult and demoralizing web" etc. lol

Neptune and Uranus were very active when I was about 8 to 11 years old. Neptune was transiting my Mercury,Venus,Asc,Moon,MC and Mars. I thought of "escape" a lot.

posted May 30, 2014 03:23 AM            

Wow.

Neptune sits on his Moon by square(very wide orb) and sits on Mercury by square.

Saturn sits on Mercury by square.

Pluto opposes the Sun- life swings up and down and one can take that very personally: My sister has this aspect in the fixed signs of Taurus and Scorpio and she takes things to heart.

On the day of the suicide, Neptune and Pluto were busy!

trans Neptune squared trans Sun and conjunct trans Moon.

trans Neptune squared trans Mercury.

Trans Pluto was squaring natal Sun.

Trans Neptune conjunct natal Moon.

Trans Moon conjunct natal Moon(feeling extra vulnerable emotionally).

Trans Mars square natal Sun(action, action, action).

trans Uranus conjunct natal Sun suggests that there were some current changes in his life that he was adjusting to. This could be indicative of the recent marriage?

Gosh, there is a whole lot more. But I think I'll stop here.

posted May 30, 2014 04:03 AM            

I have heard that rahu conjunct moon causes depression severe enough to lead to suicide. The author Eckhart tolle has this and he almost commited suicide, but that day his mind "broke" so severely from his mental suffering that he ended up experiencing a spiritual awakening instead.

posted May 30, 2014 11:23 AM            

I've had Neptune transits for years and I used to be suicidal for a very long time.

I also have escapist tendencies; they're not usually harmful per se, but quite debilitating (and unhealthy on the long run).

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Rahu is North Node, right?
Moon conjunct North Node would do that? Sounds weird. I'd say Moon conjunct South Node, perhaps... I have a friend who has it and he has depression, a PD and issues with his mother. So that fits.

D'oh, I have Moon square the Nodal axis. And I guess that description above fits me, as well.

posted May 30, 2014 02:18 PM            

His NN squares his sun. The evolution of the soul is fighting with ego... That should not be easy...

I believe suicide was not his faith, he chose it, free will.

posted May 30, 2014 02:32 PM            

Transit Mars to all outer planets
natal moon in scorpio square mars
natal mercury in scorpio square mars
Saturn trine Moon and mercury (idk if thats bad)
sun square neptune
Neptune 1st house conjunct progressed ascendant
Natal Rahu/North Node Conjunct moon, mercury, venus, jupiter
My chart ruler is Saturn and Neptune comes second.

posted May 30, 2014 02:32 PM            

I have many of the things mentioned. No surprise I've been suicidal.
The culpits:
- Moon conj Saturn and Neptune and in Capricorn
- Sun square Pluto (Pluto is all about death)
- Chart ruler in the 12th house - I'm prone to doing things that hurt me in some way.
- Sun on the SN -- Saturnine vibe to my sun, feeling limited in how far I can express myself, including pain and fears.
- Mars (violent) conj Mercury (thoughts) in the 12th (to hurt myself).
- Chart ruler square Uranus -- doing things suddenly and unexpectedly.
- Ruler of the 8th in the 12th. Death (H8) seemed like an escape to me (H12).
- Air void -- it's hard being objective about the problems I go through.
- Sun sesquisquare Saturn

posted May 30, 2014 02:39 PM            

The chart could look great...with positive aspects or even rough charts with harsh aspects,it's not something you can figure out from astrology it's all in the person.

Two people born on the same day at the same time chart looks the same one commits suicide,the other has the happiest life and lives to be 99.

posted April 24, 2022 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by AqMoon:

Some subjects/ideas/thing's just can't be made sense of through astrology.The same goes for death so many and too many coincidences, situations, choices that we can make can kill us each day.

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posted April 24, 2022 10:07 PM            

I however worry about his Uranus squared his Sun. And Moon Opposition Uranus.

Uranus square Sun show someone who different from the crowd, very individual, doesn't go with the norms.
Moon Opposition Uranus, now this can be temper and impulse.

But I don't think those are suicidal aspects.