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posted May 30, 2014 10:42 PM            

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posted May 31, 2014 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Hello! I don't find much abb chiron sextile sun ,trine mars ,semi-sextile jupiter and quintile venus
could you pls help me?

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Well, the easy aspects i.e trines, sextiles are an easy flow of energy but the Chiron is still used here and the Chiron is pain but it is used through the planet. I have Chiron trine Venus. I use love and pain combined to help others. These both trine the ASC.

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posted May 31, 2014 08:16 AM            

Chiron in Cancer 12th house
Venus Trine Chiron
Uranus Opposite Chiron
Moon Opposite Chiron
Pluto Sesquisquare Chiron
Chiron Trine North Node

posted May 31, 2014 08:23 AM            

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posted May 31, 2014 10:23 AM            

It is complex and the healing part is often overlooked although it shouldn't be.

posted June 01, 2014 03:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, the easy aspects i.e trines, sextiles are an easy flow of energy but the Chiron is still used here and the Chiron is pain but it is used through the planet. I have Chiron trine Venus. I use love and pain combined to help others. These both trine the ASC.

Thank you! Ami Anne!! :)

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posted June 01, 2014 03:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am having wrist issues, right now, or I would help more. I am having a hard time typing anything right now, so I am not able to really answer the Chiron questions, right now. I am very sorry. :(

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posted June 01, 2014 01:40 PM            

If chiron aspects Saturn in opposition for example...the person may malinger. The trick is discipline. The pain is that discipline hurts at first...but it can be overcome...

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posted June 01, 2014 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think your Chiron pain can be transmuted by helping to heal others through it. I think that is the original myth. The Chiron never does heal, totally, according to the myth, too.

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Chiron pain is not necessarily helping others directly. Sometimes the native wants to do this but Chiron pain means he must only work on himself and by his work help others.

It depends on what flows for the native. Speaking from experience here. This would be chiron in the 12th house.

Chiron in the 12th house would feel compelled to work in a hospital or help people behind the scenes but cannot. The wound is there...It's like someone who is like a priest but cannot be a priest.

posted June 01, 2014 03:45 PM            

This is why they cannot help others in this sense. They open themselves up to swindlers and get taken advantage of. For this reason it is best they do not become nurses/counselors/ etc...because they will become drained.

It is hard for them to do thins like finance, and manage money, but in truth, it is the best thing for them and the world because the world needs more compassionate people in these fields...and more hardwired people in the nursing/helping fields.

The soft and painful nature of Chiron in the 12th gives the gift of solitude to train and accomplish goals to serve the institutions and society rather than the individuals...

It is the opposite of Chiron in the sixth...which is the placement of the psychologist/counselor.

Pisces is boundries...so Chiron in Pisces/12th has to learn about boundries. The best ways of life for them are not to be subemerged in other people's problems or they will be swept away taking care of others before themselves.

They need to balance themselves...much depends on the rest of the chart...some chiron in the 12th may be good at psychology and helping others...but for the most part...Chiron in the 12th by sign will be about being strong alone and helping people by leading by example...or teaching by doing...

Chiron in the 12th in gemini for example will have to learn to know when to speak, when not to speak by observing others communications. He could chose to help them and teach them too but he doesn't have too.

The myth has many variations....sometimes Chiron does heal himself and he ascends sometimes he doesn't...there is never just one myth.

posted June 01, 2014 04:02 PM            

The pain - which is never healed - is transmutated into a source of energy.

But from the perspective of the transcendent post-transmuated state of conciousness the pain is healed...it is simply a source of energy, will, motivation.

posted June 01, 2014 04:04 PM            

Or they could just spend hours alone drinking and doing drugs...

Or they could spend hours alone watching television and playing pony...

The choice is there to be made but solitude is a gift if used as one...

For them the issue is alone vs. not alone.

How can they spend time alone yet still learn to set up boundries and thrive in groups? It's about coming alive within onself. Have faith that spirit is ever present. In their own minds they will feel alone even if they are always out with people until they learn to come and define who they are.

They needs to see and rediscover their principle nature. They needs to feel that their moral choices matter and define them rather than who they hang out with.

They need to not feel alone with themseles...they need to come alive...

this is why it is described as a crisis of faith. As soon as they are alone they start feeling sour. But when they start feeling good about accomplish tasks and stuff they will grow and then attract the people who truly make them feel comradery. There faith is restored in the universe when they seize the needs for others to witness them in order to feel good...they needs to witness themselves.

posted June 02, 2014 11:48 PM            

Let's say you go to the gym and lift weights. When you wake up the next day, you're sore. It hurts a little. You're not injured, but it aches. What do you do? Do you not do anything with those muscles again until you feel completely better, or do you throw yourself back into a routine and work them again as soon as you can to push through the soreness?

I think that where my Chiron lies in my chart, I tend to one of these extremes. I have difficulty dealing with the Chirotic things in a "normal," even way. I am either trying to pretend the Chirotic ache doesn't exist by ignoring whatever could activate it, or I'm actively trying to take that thing head on in order to master it, up to and including overdoing that thing.

When it comes to the 12th house, what is it? It's loss, solitude, the unconscious mind, travel and foreign things, and confinement. If your Chiron is in the 12th, if my experience is any indication, you'll at various times alternate between times where you're acting like, "There is no 12th house," and throwing yourself completely into solitude and immersing yourself in your own thoughts and meditations, travelling to foreign lands, and things of that nature.

posted June 02, 2014 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by KAMcA10:
I've been thinking about Chiron today. Here is my thought about how Chiron works.

Let's say you go to the gym and lift weights. When you wake up the next day, you're sore. It hurts a little. You're not injured, but it aches. What do you do? Do you not do anything with those muscles again until you feel completely better, or do you throw yourself back into a routine and work them again as soon as you can to push through the soreness?

I think that where my Chiron lies in my chart, I tend to one of these extremes. I have difficulty dealing with the Chirotic things in a "normal," even way. I am either trying to pretend the Chirotic ache doesn't exist by ignoring whatever could activate it, or I'm actively trying to take that thing head on in order to master it, up to and including overdoing that thing.

When it comes to the 12th house, what is it? It's loss, solitude, the unconscious mind, travel and foreign things, and confinement. If your Chiron is in the 12th, if my experience is any indication, you'll at various times alternate between times where you're acting like, "There is no 12th house," and throwing yourself completely into solitude and immersing yourself in your own thoughts and meditations, travelling to foreign lands, and things of that nature.

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posted June 05, 2014 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by SunMoonStars:
IMHO, an excellent article on Chiron:

http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm

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I don't know...an astrologer of forty years once told me that when we make astrology too complicated it fails.

I asked him what chiron in gemini is and then asked if it had to do with a wounding of communication, siblings, learning, speaking, throat and arms...

He told me I mastered astrology and he could teach me no more.

But he also said the house plays a part too.

I have chiron in gemini. My jaw and throat are permanently numb..it's in the 12th house conjunct my ascendant.