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From: The Moon
Registered: Aug 2013

posted June 02, 2014 02:29 AM            

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Someone who could have the potential of being a really dangerous person, according to violence or abuse of animals?

Is the heavy aspected pluto always a factor? And what is the difference between the conjunction and opposition to pluto, instead of the usual messed up square?

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From: 8th house
Registered: Mar 2014

posted June 02, 2014 09:27 AM            

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Why would anyone want to hurt poor little animals? insects on the other hand in summer...ugh. crush! Crush! I feel better already.

People who hurt animals are probably extremely low in empathy and simultaneously high in sadism. You need both to screw with a creature that depends on you for sustenance.

Conj vs opp: I have mars conjunct Pluto. I like plutonic things. It shows in how I pursue things. I also have Pluto opp sado + sedna. I think it's only extreme life-destroying pain that triggers my urge to destroy. I haven't experienced that in a very long time. And even then, when I was low in empathy, I couldn't have hurt animals. It takes a special kind of cruel to do that. Cruelty should be targeted towards those who deserve it.

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From: Neptune
Registered: May 2011

posted June 02, 2014 09:50 AM            

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I know someone like this. Her mother abused meth heavily while she was pregnant, attempting to miscarry. She also lacked a consistent upbringing. She was abandoned, passed around, moved from place to place. She is 12 years old. She seems to have now turned the violence inward and has been self harming. She is a Leo with Moon in Aquarius.

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From: Neptune
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posted June 02, 2014 09:57 AM            

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I don't have her birth time, but I just took a look at her chart.

Mars and Pluto are conjunct, opposite Saturn. The Saturn/Pluto opposition is exact, but that's sort of a generational thing.

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From: Neptune
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posted June 02, 2014 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by sag_stellium:
I think it's only extreme life-destroying pain that triggers my urge to destroy.

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I think this is well said.

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posted June 02, 2014 12:51 PM            

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Someone with Mars in 12th house square Pluto,absence of Pisces,presence of Aquarius planets.

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posted June 02, 2014 05:37 PM            

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What makes you abusive against animals, or have violent tendencies?

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Being disgusting.. The aspect of just being completely disgusting.

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From: Portland, MA,U.S
Registered: Jun 2013

posted June 02, 2014 05:46 PM            

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Maybe Pluto and Mars in the 6th?

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posted June 02, 2014 05:57 PM            

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Generally speaking:

Mars/Saturn
Mars/Uranus
Mars/Pluto

+ add the Moon (or Sun?) to the mix via hard aspect.

Maybe an afflicted Jupiter, as well? (skewed morals, not much benevolence)

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