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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 02, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it even possible lol? What house is it in? What's your definition of intense? Other water venuses or those who've witnessed are welcome to join in.

Mine is in the 1st followed by the lovely Cancer Mars(meh) and I honestly don't feel that I am that intense(or am I DeepFreeze lol). I'm emotional when in love but it's more like a guardian type of emotion. I feel like I need to have that persons back regardless of how little the situation may be, and even when it doesn't involve me. What I think is intense may not be for someone else so I'm curious.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there even any out there that haven't left lol..?

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posted June 02, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit unclear about what different people think is intense. You know?

It's like a blurred line of intense/passion/emotion. When do you call "it" which?

But as for me.... Nah. You're never too intense. Bring it.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think too much emotion scares me off. lol Or maybe I just mean sensitivity.

Like cancer suns...

I really like em but whoa... Too much for this hombre.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolingembers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im Scorpio Venus followed by Cancer mars tightly conjunct ascendant

My venus falls in my 5th house.

Im all of nothing. Not really obsessive or a emotional roller coaster, im emotionally stable and realistic... but still, all or nothing.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Is it even possible lol? What house is it in? What's your definition of intense? Other water venuses or those who've witnessed are welcome to join in.

Mine is in the 1st followed by the lovely Cancer Mars(meh) and I honestly don't feel that I am that intense(or am I DeepFreeze lol). I'm emotional when in love but it's more like a guardian type of emotion. I feel like I need to have that persons back regardless of how little the situation may be, and even when it doesn't involve me. What I think is intense may not be for someone else so I'm curious.


Hey- it could be worse: my dad has Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Pisces. I would pick Cancer if I had to choose between the two of them.

He's not an intense guy at all, just super strict (Virgo moon- meh).

Edit: no offense Virgo moons, I like you, but you infringe upon my Aqua sun too much at times

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posted June 02, 2014 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
Im Scorpio Venus followed by Cancer mars tightly conjunct ascendant

My venus falls in my 5th house.

Im all of nothing. Not really obsessive or a emotional roller coaster, im emotionally stable and realistic... but still, all or nothing.


I agree I'm the exact same, very stable. I'm just so damn protective. I'm like I Mama Rhino have you ever seen them charge at people, it's beyond scary LOL.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Hey- it could be worse: my dad has Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Pisces. I would pick Cancer if I had to choose between the two of them.

He's not an intense guy at all, just super strict (Virgo moon- meh).

Edit: no offense Virgo moons, I like you, but you infringe upon my Aqua sun too much at times


Hahaha very true. I'm shockingly not strict or set on rules, I kind if just go with the flow probably all of the libra. I do stick to my schedules though it annoys me when I know I have to do something to do and can't get it done.

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posted June 02, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's nice to see you back Barbie!!

You would probably be more intense than a Libra with a Libra Venus.. or Virgo Venus or Sagittarius Venus.

I'm very familiar with Libra/Scorpio energy - specially Scorpio Mercury and/or Venus because I attract many people in my life with this combination.

Personally I sense their intensity, by contrast with others. I'm very put off by superficial people who can't experience strong emotion... I have Venus opp Pluto in natal..
The "intensity" from my perspective is just an ability to *love* in a very real way, no holds barred. Scorpio Venus is not scared of falling in love, like many others.. and they're not scared of sex.
I basically see Scorpio as fearless energy.. wherever it is in the chart.. So, Scorpio Venus would be fearless in love.

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posted June 02, 2014 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
It's nice to see you back Barbie!!

You would probably be more intense than a Libra with a Libra Venus.. or Virgo Venus or Sagittarius Venus.

I'm very familiar with Libra/Scorpio energy - specially Scorpio Mercury and/or Venus because I attract many people in my life with this combination.

Personally I sense their intensity, by contrast with others. I'm very put off by superficial people who can't experience strong emotion... I have Venus opp Pluto in natal..
The "intensity" from my perspective is just an ability to *love* in a very real way, no holds barred. Scorpio Venus is not scared of falling in love, like many others.. and they're not scared of sex.
I basically see Scorpio as fearless energy.. wherever it is in the chart.. So, Scorpio Venus would be fearless in love.


Awee nice to see you too Odette. I am extremely put off by superficial people too. Makes my skin crawl. I don't feel very Libran at all when it comes to certain things, socially though heck ya LOL. I would say that I am also very fearless in love, I'd die for him if I had too. A lot of people like to bad mouth Venus in Scorpio and I don't really understand why. Those natives are used to the energy and know how to handle it, don't get why those who aren't used to it or haven't experienced it talk crap about it. I think it's awesome who wouldn't love a watery libra

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posted June 02, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one of the fall/detriments I never really saw as such. I love the intensity and passion of Venus in Scorpio.

Maybe it's because of my own Venus in Aries (similar situation), but I love how genuine the emotion/expression is. :]

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posted June 02, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a Scorpio Venus can be too intense, though perhaps too focused or obsessed is a better word. But as my current partner has one (AND a Scorpio Mars and a Cancer moon) I know they can rein in the part that I don't like, the smothering part.

My impression is that Scorpio Venus likes the "Edward/Bella" obsessive love of Twilight. And that appeals very much to some, but to me it's a nightmare (a literal one at that, I once had a horrid nightmare Edward was obsessed with me instead of Bella and I couldn't escape him, it was worse than my usual vampire nightmares as the usual vampires have vulnerabilities and weaknesses to exploit).

But my partner, while intense, has demanded certain things from me in some ways (and as long as I do then she gives me breathing space) but she has adapted to something that works for me. It was only very unusual circumstances--I'm talking butterfly effect worthy, countless circumstances mixing to create a completely unexpected outcome--that allowed it to happen at all. And if I didn't know astrology so that I was able to make a "treaty" so to speak that we could both live with I doubt we'd be together now because it got off to a VERY rocky start.

That intensity is still a cause of conflict on one subject (though one that has a few years before it really comes to a head, and then I don't know what will happen, I'm willing to play it by ear and cross that bridge when we come to it) but she would not tolerate me talking about that on the net, not even anonymously. She does like her secrets and my conscience won't let me say more. I feel certain that a Scorpio Venus wouldn't be able to understand why this one thing is so important to me anyway, or why it was even an issue.

And a minor problem was she dug for my secrets while keeping her own for the longest time. She felt my waters and knew exactly what to say to get them from me, though it wasn't easy or instant, but then my Scorpio Jupiter really wanted to understand her fully and she suddenly gets coy. It was kinda fun, though, I found all sorts of clues on my own and pieced it together and meanwhile she fed me her secrets by the teaspoon. (Secrets I will never reveal.) I'm just glad that as we got to know the secret parts of each other that neither of us then got bored.

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posted June 02, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of what you said about her Pixie sounds like me. When I was younger I was obsessed with finding a love like Bella and Edward's, hence why I've still to this day only seen 2 of the Twilight movies (couldn't handle the way they ruined them lol). I would fantasize about finding someone who could come close to matching how I am emotionally and mentally.

I honestly thought I'd be single for a loooong time and still can't believe that I'm married now. I am also extremely secretive and private when it comes to certain things being said online and even in real life. He and I wrote our own vows and I was so nervous about crying and being too personal in front of everyone and of course I boohooed like a baby, even made his sisters, mom and nieces cry. So I absolutely can relate to how she feels. I'm not one to make out or be too lovey with him in front of other people, I'd rather whisper things to him and secretly kiss him when they're gone.

I wouldn't take it to the heart honestly she can't help being so private especially when it comes to you. Her scorpio is testing you. Making sure you're worthy. That's what scorpio venus is all about. I'm obsessed with love and being in love and can't believe I finally found my match. I feel like I've finally found why I'm here through him. It's very hard for us(scorpio venus) to open up but when we do just know you're the one. We only open up to those we truly love so you're a lucky woman. We love like we've never loved anyone before. For me the only thing that I demanded from him was for him to love me just as much as I love him. My biggest fear is him leaving me, it scares me even thinking about it. I'm sure she feels the exact same with you. I love the way scorpio venus loves and I'm sure secretly your libra eats it up. Thank you for sharing that Pixie.

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posted June 02, 2014 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie, I'm curious, if you don't mind that is... What in your chart do you think is pushed away because of too much intensity?

For me... I kind of think my Leo sun loooooves it. The attention and devotion.
Virgo Venus and Mars. Idk... It's mutable so I suppose that helps.
Unfortunately though... Virgo remembers every last little thing from even 15 years ago but she has that magic button. She changes me so much for the better. The intensity and devotion, the cancer Mars protectiveness gets interpreted as security, which I love. I feel secure, safe... Open... Free (to fully express every dynamic of my personality)... Truly... Purely loved.

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posted June 03, 2014 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the primary aspect that demands freedom is my 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, eros, Neptune, Uranus). I've always needed the freedom to mentally and physically roam and I don't like constant shadows either (or worse, being one).

I also have a Libra stellium and Libra's scales can get out of whack pretty easy unless there's balance. And that includes being social at times and alone at others, among other things. Having someone demand too much of my time and energy throws my scales out of whack, and such a Libra is not pleasant to be around. Heck, I post here from my own private room, though I don't usually sleep in this room (I've always had a room for myself). I maintain a home for others but in this one room I set it up exactly as I like it and it's generally a sanctuary (simplistically speaking). And I don't have to worry about disturbing anyone else here, or them reading over my shoulder, or anything like that (though I do invite others in sometimes, but it's understood that if I have the door about closed that one doesn't just walk in).

And though I'm monogamous, I also understand there are many forms of love (something our society has forgotten but even the Ancient Greeks defined pretty well). And it's not just that, I need stimulation from still more people, and sometimes I need that stimulation on my own.

I believe I'd die for my partner (just not going to be absolutely sure until that moment of truth arrives as many glibly say they would but reconsider when it's time to actually do it), but also my BFF and a handful of others. Heck, I once ran out in front of a car to save my cat risking that they'd stop for me, which happened, but knowing if I didn't then my cat would be run over for sure.

Though I'm the most romantic with my current partner than I've ever been with anyone before because my partner's chart demands it. And I do not begrudge it, it's enjoyable and also sincere (though my love was just as sincere with previous partners that I was less romantic with). But there's no way I could or would "forget the rest of the world existed" for long (though such moments of "blissful forgetfulness" do happen and are enjoyable) or otherwise anchored myself to one person so that I couldn't maintain balance.

No matter how good a food is, if it's constant then it gets old. Again, it's nothing against monogamy, I'm not talking about "needing to see other people sexually/romantically" (as some people insist on seeing it because "only romantic love" exists to them where all others are more in the background, but that's not how it works for me), and it's not just love either, I need all sorts of interaction and ability to connect with the world and community. Perhaps it's better to explain it as I live HERE, but I'd hate to be here 24/7 (that would turn a beloved home into a prison) and love getting out to visit other homes and just to enjoy the fresh air, and sometimes I love hiking with others and other times I want to hike by myself and that doesn't mean I love others any less at those times and it certainly doesn't mean I'm mad or upset with them (though I would be if I wasn't allowed to go hike by myself when I wanted to). But my home is still HERE...even if I did go to Texas for a couple of months when Granny suffered a pulmonary embolism (and it would've been been futile to try stopping me).

Naturally, I give others space as well and encourage them to grow as individuals as well as with others and generally sympathize with their own loyalties to other people (I'm also not the jealous type). Partners are more interesting this way as well as they have more to share, in addition to giving me time for my scales to right themselves and my inner-Sag to run free awhile (and then I have more to share as well). To me a partner is PART of my life, but never could be my ENTIRE life.

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posted June 03, 2014 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love venus in scorpios that all or nothing approach is good to me lol my ex was a venus in scorpio i dont want to get serious again with another girl "unless" she has venus in scorpio i love how commited you become and how you always have your partners back and how willing you are to love somebody to the end and i actually respect how you can give your all but once someone messes up you just forgot all about them lmao it happened to me but i understand how scorps are it comes with the territory lmao

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posted June 03, 2014 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with a lot of what is being said here. I'm a Sag with Venus in Scorpio (h12). I want an all or nothing relationship None of this "maybe", "we'll grow into it" kind of thing.

But I want my freedom to be an individual and I want them to have it too. So definitely not the Edward/Bella thing. There is no "merging into one" going on. IYKWIM.

Like was said, I'm protective, stable, caring (to a select few), sensitive (to a select few), totally loyal, I want to know you love me. But don't smother me and I won't smother you.

I like superficial people... at a distance. They can be fun and entertaining. But I won't care if/when they come and go from my life.

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posted June 03, 2014 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I think too much emotion scares me off. lol Or maybe I just mean sensitivity.

Like cancer suns...

I really like em but whoa... Too much for this hombre.


Oh, yeah! Cancer suns. I can't deal...

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Originally posted by Odette:

The "intensity" from my perspective is just an ability to *love* in a very real way, no holds barred. Scorpio Venus is not scared of falling in love, like many others.. and they're not scared of sex.
I basically see Scorpio as fearless energy.. wherever it is in the chart.. So, Scorpio Venus would be fearless in love.


This is very true for me. I talk to my friends who are so "afraid" to let go and fall for a guy they are seeing. They are so scared they will get hurt.

I'm totally not. If it feels right, I'll do it and then worry about the consequences later. I'm not afraid to love someone even if they don't love me back. I'm not afraid of being hurt. Could be the h12 thing. I don't mind living a tragic love story. LOL.

Though it doesn't happen often and if it does it doesn't last long. My unrequited Taurus crush lasted 9 months. Now I'm totally over him. Next!

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I have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Saturn. I don't think that I'm that intense at all. But then again, my friends say otherwise.

I also used to dream of that "all consuming" love. But then, Saturn kicked in and I realized; how ideal would it be really to have a mate who is always simmering? Even when boiling an egg?

In life, you need a companion, not a complex mathematical equation to split your brain trying to assess and figure out.

I like Venus/Mars in Pisces/Cancer folks. They seem to relax me even more to a point where I am this very loving person who is without conscious defenses.

I also adore many Venus in Scorpio people, but I don't think I'd like them as romantic partners. Same with Mars in Scorpio. It gets too hot, too much, too soon.

Many just seem too "fatalistic" and love can break them so deeply when the other party strays.

Many have the approach of "all or nothing" and that's not wise IMO. This "Love" they search for is toxic and can even kill them.

To most, if they don't hurt, they don't feel alive.There must be explosions and high drama in order for it to be "cathartic"?WTF??

You can still be sexy, loving and appealing using rational reserves and moderating the intense approach.

Granted, many have the capabilities of "seeing" into another,but let the person discover what you "know" for themselves.

Maybe its Saturn here talking. But even when I'm in love, I am always rational. I never "lose it".(Saturn and Pluto in 7th)

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posted June 03, 2014 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Scorpio female with a Scorpio descendant, Mercury (retrograde natally as well), Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto. My mars is also conjunct my descendant which also means it's on my 7th house cusp. My mars is also conjunct pluto and my Sun conjuncts Pluto.


So not only do I have just the general Venus in Scorpio, but a lot of other intense aspects and placements.


As far as our intensity goes.. I get why people run from it, but then again, I don't because why would you want to?


On a serious note, I don't see marriage as an option for me because as I get older, I notice that most guys (people in general too) just can't match my level of intensity and devotion in relationships. Plus, taking into consideration today's generation..! I wouldn't be surprised if I remained single for the rest of my life.


Ever since I was little most guys would run from me and they still do. Even an intense double Taurus with moon opposition pluto ran from me recently. Once I started learning more about my chart and myself in general, I noticed that maybe my chart as a whole is the issue instead of one placement as far as my relationships go.


I am very, very, very intense.. sometimes it's too much for me to handle so I can imagine how hard it is for a uranian type or someone with a less intense chart.


I do not look at my intensity as a bad thing per se.. I'm just learning to accept it and deal with it.


I do find my intensity sexy and liberating. It's a blessing and a curse!

Learning how to channel that intense energy and/or controlling it will be one of my life lessons I believe..


I think intense/pasionate people only scare off others who weren't committed in the first place and/or they wouldn't have made you happy in the long run anyway because they're obviously running from something that scares them and is unfamiliar.

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posted June 03, 2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love these answers! I love how different things manifest some times. But also the similarities.

I hate drama in real life. But I don't mind a bit of romantic drama playing out in my head. LOL. If I were a better writer I would have loved to have been a romance novelist.

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Thank all of you guys so much for all that you've said. I really agreed with a lot of it. For me loving a person is the greatest gift we're given on earth. There is nothing like loving people. I feel like I'm my whole self when in love and even feel free(I know that probably sounds weird but it's like my mind is free when in a commited relationship). Because I am a libra I feel like I have what it wants, I've finally conquered and found my "perfect mate". My mind doesn't have to look or crave for something better when for me there isn't anything even close. I feel like I've found meaning in places that I had no idea of even being meaningful. Yes Scorpio/Pluto anything is going to create a lot of passion and intensity in areas that shouldn't be passionate or intense, but for me it works. If I've ever scared a person off because of it then there was a reason for it.

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posted June 03, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Love these answers! I love how different things manifest some times. But also the similarities.

I hate drama in real life. But I don't mind a bit of romantic drama playing out in my head. LOL. If I were a better writer I would have loved to have been a romance novelist.


Me too, really awesome answers. I know it may seem like I like I loove drama online but in reality I'm the sweetest person, I hate drama. I used to write love stories when I was in the 4th grade lol!!

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I'm not scorpio Venus, but libra Venus conjunct Pluto on my AC

My son is scorpio Venus conjunct Mars by 2 degrees trined his cancer Moon.....whoa, he's intense, needs reassurance that you love him constantly and is a huge cuddle bug that always wants to make you happy.

I do feel for the girl who gets with him because he's SUPER protective and I think a bit jealous to!
He gets mad at guys who look at me, and asks if I'll go yell at them, he's only 9 so he's not willing to it himself, yet! Lol
His saggy Pluto is conjunct his Mercury in his 8th house....they make no aspects to anything else, well except inconjunct his unaspected cancer Saturn.

He thinks it's his responsibility to protect me! I hear him talking like he's mad at them, but he does it under his breath....ya, he's intense!!! Thank God for his saggy!

I've gotten to know a scorpio Venus guy and I think I'm more intense than he is, but his aqua Mars squares his Venus, maybe they block each other out a lot?

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posted June 03, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally, looked at my dad's birth chart- Venus conjunct Saturn lol. This explains it. 0 degrees.

Yeah, so he is definitely more reserved and conservative when it comes to romantic things, and doesn't outwardly show his intensity that often. He's also a Sag sun, which makes him a little more on the jovial side. He shows his love more by doing practical service, but thats probably his Virgo moon.

It goes nice though with my mom's Cancer Mars, I really love that she has always emphasized the importance of family and acts very generous and selfless at times.

I'm probably biased as a Pisces moon though.


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