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bansheequeen
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posted June 11, 2014 03:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 11, 2014 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm actually quite interested in this myself and was gonna ask this same question. Thanks for reading my mind. I also have an idea but am curious what others think. I'm thinking an unstable sun with a not so good moon, venus and/or mars. So I'd say any inharmonious aspects between those and Pluto.

I've seen it in Geminis and all earth signs.

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posted June 11, 2014 03:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hearsay says Taurus generally speaking.

Experience says sag.
My experience with sag was extreme...and more. And cap can be, from my experience but maybe not the crazy kind.
The sag was loaded with cap though. My sister is cap but she's very very mild from what I can tell. Scorpio Mars though.
Just talking signs in general.

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mareaire
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posted June 11, 2014 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurus is known for jealous tendencies.

i'd say mars or venus contacts with saturn or pluto

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posted June 11, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus and Scorpio!

Moon in hard aspect with pluto, especially if it's between taurus and scorpio…

Sun square pluto and pluto in 8th house (My ex boyfriend had this, we also had this aspect in synastry and it was HELL I tell you HELLLL) - he also had 2 planets in taurus and scorp in pluto

My experience says that it's not necessary taurus sun, but it's the moon, venus and mars in taurus that makes people more possessive and jealous, same with scorpio…

I have venus in scorpio conjunction pluto, but at the same time some heavy uranus influence. I'm jealous and possessive but in general I don't have trust issues, and I need a lot of freedom in relationships

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IV XXIV
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posted June 11, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can give a personal example... I'm quite possessive.

To begin with, I agree with a lot of what previous posters have said; I would say to look at Pluto. Harsh aspects to Pluto from Moon/Mars/Venus (in both synastry and natal).

I'm a double Taurus, and I have Mars in Cancer, Pluto in Scorpio (in the 7th - yay me -_-), Venus in Aries, Moon in Gemini.

I have no Venus/Pluto aspects but I have Mars trine Pluto, Mars inconjunction Saturn, Moon opposite Pluto, Moon square Saturn.

Here's the thing.. Lmao.. I think jealousy is wanting something you don't have. When it comes to relationships, I don't "have you" because you aren't my property, but for lack of a better term, I'll use "have you". Since I already "have you", I don't think it's jealousy but more being territorial and possessive. I'm not insane about it, where if you look at someone too long I'll flip out, but I'm very intuitive. I've been cheated on before and I felt it in the pit of my stomach. When I get that feeling, I will no longer trust you, and will always assume the worst.

As for Mars in Scorpio; I agree with DeepFreeze. My best friend (Aries sun, Cap AC, Aries Venus, Cancer Mars, Pisces moon) is married to a Sag sun, moon, mercury, Cap venus, Scorpio mars. He's very argumentative, vindictive, spiteful, jealous, and insane to be frank. He always accuses her of cheating on him and brings up a time a few years ago where she was in a pretty ugly situation with her ex (but didn't cheat). He holds it over her head like she actually DID cheat, and so anyone she speaks to is a potential affair.

As for signs: Taurus, Scorpio. Not just sun signs, but Venus/Moon/Mars/Pluto (and Pluto's house placement).

I've also known some Aries with jealousy issues, but I know one of them's got Venus in Taurus, so there's that lol.

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IV XXIV
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posted June 11, 2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed Venus/Pluto usually indicates intense relationships. But regardless of your natal charts..

I think people bring out different sides of others. You could have the most passive, nonchalant, free-spirited placements in your natal, but if you find someone and your synastry is a mess, you could turn into a psychotic, jealous freak. And vice versa. What's your synastry look like?

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posted June 11, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I brought this up because my Pisces bf is the most possessive person I've ever known. And he keeps saying he doesn't know why he gets this way and for some reason him being this jealous and possessive is making me the same way x.x strangely out of the people I've dated he has a very like un possessive chart if at makes sense.

He's a lot younger than me. He's at the end of the Pluto in Scorpio generation so I guess he's used to relationships with Pluto in sag people? They do seem more open and carefree with relationships. But even within my generation it seems like most other people have less possessive relationships.

I know I'm part of the problem lol I'm very possessive, but I also attract people that are more possessive than I am x.x and I don't think I have a lot of "possessive" aspects and placements. Well my mars in Taurus in the 8th. Maybe that's doing it lol. 4th house cap stellium maybe?

My boyfriends Venus and Mars in aqua squares his pluto. He needs his space but I'm on a tight leash...


Pisces are RIDICULOUS at this stuff and it only gets worse unless he manages NOW to deal with it effectively. Trust me, I divorced one. UGH!!!

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posted June 11, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I am possessive too. But my boyfriends kinda more insane about it. Like accusing me of cheating, getting jealous over ex boyfriends years ago, calling me all the time just to try to see if I'm hanging out with a guy etc. and I'm the kind of person that has zero friends. No Taurus, only Scorpio in this chart is Pluto but it squares his Venus and Mars. (Very loose square on the Mars)

I was with a Scorpio Mars, triple sag guy. Totally insane. My friends Aries sun boyfriend is an angry jealous guy, but I don't know anything else about him other than sun sign.

I'm trying to pinpoint the core of jealousy and possessiveness itself. I know what it feels like I know what it makes people do but I don't fully understand it. From my end I never have felt like I've had enough love so I think that's where my jealousy comes from. I always have a feeling in the back of my mind like I'm gonna lose the person I'm with.


Wow you should avoid this kind of behavior at all costs! It's a snowball that is gonna be bigger and bigger if you don't stop it now.

The problem with taurus/scorpio/pluto/8th house placement is that they wan't emotional control.. if it's also triggered in synastry like it seems it is for you too, it indicates that you have some sort of power-struggle going on… do you have any planets in each others 8th house? And how tight is the orb between mars-venus square pluto? And do you have some other aspects that is stronger between you?

I recommend that you trust each other 100% , cause another thing with this possessiveness is a kind of "fear" that you cannot trust the other. And that is kind of a basic rule for a loving and healthy relationship!

Also - it really IS a basic rule that you are able to have friends lol. ALSO from the opposite sex. No one has that kind of power over each other, even though with jealousy it feels like it's a big crime.

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posted June 11, 2014 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun sq pluto & Venus sq mars . I have both of those and I am crazy jealous and possessive. It's not fun being this way

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posted June 11, 2014 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a bunch of cap n my possessiveness is off the mark. It doesn't trigger emotional outbursts, it just makes me think that the relationship isn't worth keeping. The other person steps out of line once and it's like "Hmm incompatible personal values. Relationship isn't gonna survive for long. Bye bye n good luck". Other than that I'm not paranoid about people cheating behind my back.

Others think I'm super chill with my s.o but nah, it's only because we're compatible n have similar views about boundaries, what's appropriate n what is not.

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posted June 11, 2014 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus placements

Scorpio placements

Venus/pluto

Venus/mars

Pluto square Asc

Gotta look at 8th house crap too.

Synastry


Im guilty but not because of control. Im just very territorial at times lol

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posted June 11, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Scorpio.

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posted June 12, 2014 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me.

taurus gem cusp Sun opp pluto
mercury in taurus opp pluto
venus in taurus opp pluto
pluto in scorp conj mc
**oh and pluto square saturn- a subtle controller, bcz the square is not that tight

No fun, with jealousy & letting go :(
ouch the heart

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posted June 12, 2014 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting...I have a Taurus Sun opp Scorpio Mars along with a Taurus Venus (opp Saturn and qux Uranus), and I'm not like that...Guess I'm a failure, lol.

When it comes to being treated like that, it's another story...I abhor this behavior in others...0 tolerance for it.

Chart rulers are Mercury and Moon:
Mercury in Aries/11th opp, Pluto, trine Neptune, and ssqu. Uranus.
Moon in Virgo conj. IC, opp. Lilith-Pallas, squ. Uranus, trine Sun and Jupiter.

I imagine those Uranus aspects are influences, in addition to Jupiter being in my 7th (trine my Venus and Moon). I think Lilith and Pallas opp my Moon (and on an angle), along with Vesta on my AC, are also major influences here...

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"I'm not insane about it, where if you look at someone too long I'll flip out, but I'm very intuitive. I've been cheated on before and I felt it in the pit of my stomach. When I get that feeling, I will no longer trust you, and will always assume the worst."

^^ This. I have Aries everything and Moon in Taurus opposition Pluto.

This Aries guy I knew for 6 years who liked me but never did anything about it would call me immediately every time I changed my relationship status and ask who I was dating, even if we hadn't talked in months. He had Sag ASC and Venus in Taurus, Mars in Cap.

The other Aries guy I liked was always nosy about who was with me, or asked a bunch of questions about a date I went on…Sag ASC and Sag Moon. Flipped out kind of easy compared to me and my Taurus moon.

I DO get possessive and territorial, and even though I'm still working on letting that GO, I try my hardest not to let the other person know it and keep my cool. It's kind of a catch-22 because the energy is so strong in me that I probably can't help but attract my worst fear anyway.

I think LIBRA also gets jealous and possessive, but the way they go about it is so passive that you have to be intuitive to pick up on it.

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
That's interesting...I have a Taurus Sun opp Scorpio Mars along with a Taurus Venus (opp Saturn and qux Uranus), and I'm not like that...Guess I'm a failure, lol.

When it comes to being treated like that, it's another story...I abhor this behavior in others...0 tolerance for it.



I think it's because of your uranus:)
I have strong uranian influence as well- for example my venus trines uranus- but I channel this energy into going to unexpected places with a lover-or doing unexpected things& keep the spontaneity alive in the rel. that's an example

When it comes to tolerate, sometimes I can, sometimes I don't. That's again my moon conjunct uranus&aries mars. depends

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posted June 12, 2014 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LostTaurus:
Pisces are RIDICULOUS at this stuff and it only gets worse unless he manages HOW to deal with it effectively. Trust me, I divorced one. UGH!!!

I would have to strongly disagree here, Pisces is suppose to be one of the best matches for Scorpios, why is that...because they like to be possessed not possessive and generally not jealous either. Had to be other influences other than pisces in this person's (or others) chart, and given he was a male pisces that (female) energy can easily be eclipse by other planets in his chart.
Haven't seen much about Leo's on here, they can be that way as well, what king wouldn't be possessive over his kingdom.

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posted June 12, 2014 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starlitroad:

I think it's because of your uranus
I have strong uranian influence as well- for example my venus trines uranus- but I channel this energy into going to unexpected places with a lover-or doing unexpected things& keep the spontaneity alive in the rel. that's an example

Yeah, I just edited my post to mention more on that lol. I channel my Uranian energy in that way too.

My experiences with extreme jealousy/possessiveness/manipulation:

One of the most possessive, jealous people I know is my narcissistic a-hole of a brother...Aries Sun, Gemini Moon. He was abusive to me (in every way) all growing up, and the one time as adults that ended us for good...He's misogynistic and has abused pretty much everyone close to him.

My Dad also had serious issues with jealousy/possessiveness, when it came to my Mother; he was abusive and psychotic as well. He had a Leo Sun-Pluto conj. along with a Scorpio Moon.

To me, they were examples/lessons of how not to behave...

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I think LIBRA also gets jealous and possessive, but the way they go about it is so passive that you have to be intuitive to pick up on it.

I've never met a single jealous Libra unless they had heavy Water or Earth in their chart. Even the most insecure ones weren't. I've never been. To me jealousy is a sign of insecurity. I do agree in some ways a libra can be possessive but not jealous. They're too busy trying to keep balance than be jealous lol.

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posted June 12, 2014 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I've never met a single jealous Libra unless they had heavy Water or Earth in their chart. Even the most insecure ones weren't. I've never been. To me jealousy is a sign of insecurity. I do agree in some ways a libra can be possessive but not jealous. They're too busy trying to keep balance than be jealous lol.

Depends on their placement… my boyfriend is libra sun + venus and he is nothing near jealous, he is more like just trying to keep up with me lol… but my aqua ex boyfriend had a libra moon in 7th, and he was VERY jealous…and so he had sun in 12th house, so spice the jealousy with some illusive imagination! Maybe that's the coincidence here? A pisces with a possessive and jealous natal chart, could completely lose his imagination and see things that isn't there…

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Depends on their placement… my boyfriend is libra sun + venus and he is nothing near jealous, he is more like just trying to keep up with me lol… but my aqua ex boyfriend had a libra moon in 7th, and he was VERY jealous…and so he had sun in 12th house, so spice the jealousy with some illusive imagination! Maybe that's the coincidence here? A pisces with a possessive and jealous natal chart, could completely lose his imagination and see things that isn't there…

I agree that's why I said with heavy earth or water lol. I have all of my libra(sun, moon mercury; my ascendant is just my ascendant lol)in the 12th and I've never been jealous. I think it helps me though because they're all conjunct and there is a constant tug and pull with my Saturn, Mars, Uranus and Neptune.

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