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Topic: Mars conj. ASC
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 23, 2014 07:36 PM
I have Mars in the 12th house, in Gemini (super mutable, right?) but it's conjunct my Gemini ASC too. How does being conj. my ASC help? I was thinking about the guys I've met lately and how they're losers in different ways and they totally fit Mars in 12th house (wishy washy, secretive, alcoholics, delusional, hurting, etc.) and wondering how my ASC factored into all of this.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 8606 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2014 07:39 PM
You're more like "the man" in your dealings with guys? You have to be the one who initiates, or who dominates, perhaps?IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 23, 2014 07:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: You're more like "the man" in your dealings with guys? You have to be the one who initiates, or who dominates, perhaps?
Yes, I hate it. I'm comfortable dominating but I'm also traditional and want them to man-up. I guess I wondered how this would affect the kind of guys I meet since Mars in the 12th is already proving true to it's description. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 8606 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 23, 2014 07:51 PM
Hmm, passive-aggressive, perhaps? Or quiet for some time and then explosive the next? Since the actual position is in the 12H, but it's also not completely hidden, so to speak, and has some of that Firey energy of the ASC.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1988 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 08:34 PM
Mine is the same, but in Virgo. I've read that others can see it, but it is hidden from you. They feel that raw energy inside, they sense it, but you remain unaware. Also holding in until you blow your top and things being made into a huge deal because previous stresses come out with the "trigger" stress.. The one that tips you over. That's some of what I've read, and know of myself. With Pluto on the other side though... Whoa. IP: Logged |
lvASTRO Knowflake Posts: 156 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 23, 2014 08:48 PM
Didn't you say your Venus was in Aries as well? That also has something to do with it. --I'm guessing your MC is Aries as well. I can't imagine it's easy for you to get the guy to initiate a chase, so you do it yourself.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 23, 2014 08:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by lvASTRO: Didn't you say your Venus was in Aries as well? That also has something to do with it. --I'm guessing your MC is Aries as well. I can't imagine it's easy for you to get the guy to initiate a chase, so you do it yourself.
LOL. WELLLST… Sun, Mercury, and Venus are all in Aries. MC is in Pisces. What does MC have to do with guys? @Doux - Yes, I get PA types ALL the time! Maybe it's stronger because not only is Mars in a mutable house, but it's in a mutable sign and ASC too? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 06:46 AM
Bump. Just wondering about other ideas for the type of guy Mars in the 12th conj. ASC would be.IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1975 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 24, 2014 08:30 AM
I am Mars in Virgo conj Asc 12H. Venus, Mars, Merc, Sun and Asc in 12H Virgo progressed chart. Others are slightly cautious of me because I radiate TNT although I personally think I am the nicest thing since Bambi.. When I get angry I scare myself so don't make me angry, I am serious about this. Just let me walk away, don't keep pressing my buttons..When I do get angry I will rely on my Pluto to make sure you know how I feel about you. I like to hunt men and they just need to give me enough to keep me interested. If they become clingy or emotional I will shut off and go cold/aloof/distant/detached. I will let things cool off for a while and then test waters to see if he got the hint. If not, I will put him in a friend zone that he will never be able to reverse. I really have such a problem with my Virgo energy! It analyzes everything and the smallest thing NO ONE ELSE WILL CARE ABOUT, will turn me off. It's quite sad really. Cheers! IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1988 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted June 24, 2014 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: I am Mars in Virgo conj Asc 12H. Venus, Mars, Merc, Sun and Asc in 12H Virgo progressed chart. Others are slightly cautious of me because I radiate TNT although I personally think I am the nicest thing since Bambi.. When I get angry I scare myself so don't make me angry, I am serious about this. Just let me walk away, don't keep pressing my buttons..When I do get angry I will rely on my Pluto to make sure you know how I feel about you. I like to hunt men and they just need to give me enough to keep me interested. If they become clingy or emotional I will shut off and go cold/aloof/distant/detached. I will let things cool off for a while and then test waters to see if he got the hint. If not, I will put him in a friend zone that he will never be able to reverse. I really have such a problem with my Virgo energy! It analyzes everything and the smallest thing NO ONE ELSE WILL CARE ABOUT, will turn me off. It's quite sad really. Cheers!
Well put! IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 12:30 PM
Sigh. Do I need to bold things? I'm not asking for a description of Mars in the 12th. I've said twice (in the original and post #7) that I'm asking how it influences the type of GUYS one could attract. More over not even it being in the 12th house, more so how the 12th house influences are affected since its conjunct my ASC. Doux offered great insight and I'm still waiting to hear back from IV too. I know traditionally Mars isn't what we "attract" but think outside the box. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 12:33 PM
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but not getting my questions answered has been a long time problem.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1988 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted June 24, 2014 12:39 PM
OK, sorry then. Perhaps men who want to have a secret sexual relationship with you. Men who are taken and want you on the side. Men who are sweet and turn aggressive later. Best I've got. And not that anything is wrong, but "mars/asc - partners they attract" for a title may have helped avoid this. Not to take away from our responsibility to just read. lol IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 01:32 PM
Thank you, Deep Freeze.IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 1975 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 24, 2014 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but not getting my questions answered has been a long time problem.
Your Mars probably
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 1975 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 24, 2014 05:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but not getting my questions answered has been a long time problem.
Also, seeing as I like to HUNT men, I don't like men that hunt me. That would make the men I like submissive but I don't want any clingy men. The men I hunt are disintersted to 80%, the other 20 are for me to get. Easy men are so boring and this does not mean he is a "nice guy". I just don't want them overly interested as if they are desperate. I like things "hidden". I HATE HATE HATE pda!! And lastly, reality never come close to my ideals and with age I have learnt that my divine beliefs can never manifest in reality and therefore am MOST LIKELY to choose someone that will never disappoint me ie a complete tool.
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 06:52 PM
Okay, thanks Charlie.IP: Logged |
lvASTRO Knowflake Posts: 156 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 24, 2014 10:23 PM
Sorry for the late reply. It actually makes more sense with your MC being in Pisces. ...Your Mars is conjunct your asc, in Gemini, so I imagine that your initial impression on men is more dominant, assertive... more of a go-getter type, not the damsel to be pursued. This also works in with your baby stellium in Aries. Also a masculine, assertive sign. Especially the Venus in Aries, which, strangely in women, plays out differently than that in Venus in Aries men. Venus in Aries men generally like to BE chased... Females with this placement are generally more assertive and LIKE to CHASE. They initiate a lot more often than other Venus signs in women. This, however, is at odds with what you want. You give off a certain persona, but still want the men to show some initiative and at least chase you back, especially with your Descendant in Sagittarius, I think you need that intellectual game of reverse cat-n-mouse. You need your interest to be justified back--you look for a man to HUNT you, much like the centaurian archer. Seeing as how the axis all relate, I asked about your MC because it is much more than your interests in the public sphere/vocations. "The sign on the cusp of the Midheaven quite often indicates what kind of career, vocation, or reputation in life the native will pursue, and also reflects how an individual reacts to stressful situations," however, it also reflects how the individual will identify with and admire certain qualities of astrological signs on the Midheaven. For you, Pisces is more receptive, emotional, refined, feminine--at odds with the values of your ascendant which are more rough, crude, masculine, strong, independent... Almost intimidating. You put out one energy, but expect another. You admire qualities in men where they play the traditional role of chasing you, swooping you off your feet with initiative, dinner, etc. being dreamy, making the connection, maybe wining and dining you? Just my spin on the subject. I've dissected it a lot in myself, and we have many of the same placements. I want one thing, but come off as another. It sucks. So I attract what I don't truly want. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 24, 2014 11:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by lvASTRO: Sorry for the late reply. It actually makes more sense with your MC being in Pisces. ...Your Mars is conjunct your asc, in Gemini, so I imagine that your initial impression on men is more dominant, assertive... more of a go-getter type, not the damsel to be pursued. This also works in with your baby stellium in Aries. Also a masculine, assertive sign. Especially the Venus in Aries, which, strangely in women, plays out differently than that in Venus in Aries men. Venus in Aries men generally like to BE chased... Females with this placement are generally more assertive and LIKE to CHASE. They initiate a lot more often than other Venus signs in women. This, however, is at odds with what you want. You give off a certain persona, but still want the men to show some initiative and at least chase you back, especially with your Descendant in Sagittarius, I think you need that intellectual game of reverse cat-n-mouse. You need your interest to be justified back--you look for a man to HUNT you, much like the centaurian archer. Seeing as how the axis all relate, I asked about your MC because it is much more than your interests in the public sphere/vocations. "The sign on the cusp of the Midheaven quite often indicates what kind of career, vocation, or reputation in life the native will pursue, and also reflects how an individual reacts to stressful situations," however, it also reflects how the individual will identify with and admire certain qualities of astrological signs on the Midheaven. For you, Pisces is more receptive, emotional, refined, feminine--at odds with the values of your ascendant which are more rough, crude, masculine, strong, independent... Almost intimidating. You put out one energy, but expect another. You admire qualities in men where they play the traditional role of chasing you, swooping you off your feet with initiative, dinner, etc. being dreamy, making the connection, maybe wining and dining you? Just my spin on the subject. I've dissected it a lot in myself, and we have many of the same placements. I want one thing, but come off as another. It sucks. So I attract what I don't truly want.
WOW WOW WOW. Okay, so to parallel and make sure I understand so I can think more on this… our ASC is what we put out, and our MC is what we want (generally speaking)… Basically yes you summed it up - put out one thing, want another, dunno how to change "me." Thank you IV! IP: Logged |
lvASTRO Knowflake Posts: 156 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 24, 2014 11:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: WOW WOW WOW. Okay, so to parallel and make sure I understand so I can think more on this… our ASC is what we put out, and our MC is what we want (generally speaking)… Basically yes you summed it up - put out one thing, want another, dunno how to change "me." Thank you IV!
I'd say your ascendant is what you put out, yes... How you're perceived initially. All of your Arian and Geminian traits are going to be at the forefront. The descendant is going to embody what you want in a mate. Sagittarian/Jovian energy. Witty, humorous, initiating, assertive, free-spirited, intellectual... A hunter, provider type. The MC is the qualities you admire in yourself, and others. It will paint not only the the of vocation and career you will pursue, but also the type of home/relationship you want to build, and, in a way, will reflect a bit on the type of qualities you seek, and admire, in a partner = home = union. Hope that helps. I have Venus Aries. MC in Cancer. Descendant Aries. Pluto conjunct ascendant (relative energy to Mars). Libra ascendant (air-masc). I have similar want vs attracts issues... Lol. :-0 IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 7358 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 25, 2014 12:35 AM
quote: I have Venus Aries. MC in Cancer. Descendant Aries. Pluto conjunct ascendant (relative energy to Mars). Libra ascendant (air-masc). I have similar want vs attracts issues... Lol.:-0
You understand! What's different about your "want" "get" issues? IP: Logged | |