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hannaramaa
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posted June 28, 2014 01:01 AM
  
Would Sag DSC indicate a happy marriage?IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted June 28, 2014 02:08 AM
If you can get your freedom and your partner is a philosophical optimist yes  IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2014 04:01 AM
Mutable DSC can be a sign of the bachelor. IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul
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posted June 28, 2014 04:33 AM
You need an openminded partner and probably with Saggie placements. But generally it's true, mutable signs in the axis are bachelors or want cool relationships. Where is your Jupiter placed?IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted June 28, 2014 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Would Sag DSC indicate a happy marriage?
I don't think this will automatically lead a "happy" marriage. You'll have to look at Venus and Moon to see what "happy" means for you. If either makes harsh aspects to the ruler of the 7th house, there is something about partnerships that will irritate your value system(Venus) or sense of belonging(Moon). And these "partnerships" are not limited to romantic associations only. If Venus/Moon makes good aspects to the ruler of the 7th house, then you may find that partnerships are a lot easier for you to handle. Even if a romantic partnership ends "badly", it is likely that you will still not lose faith in partnerships altogether. You will still be a romantic and consider 7th house related issues very much a part of you.
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charlie
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posted June 28, 2014 06:34 AM
My Virgo Asc has done nothing but to cause me grief, pain and suffering! See what I did there??  IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul
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posted June 28, 2014 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
My Virgo Asc has done nothing but to cause me grief, pain and suffering! See what I did there??
So that means Pisces DSC... Your relationships are illusional. You fall in love only when someone activates your dreamy world/imagination. I've read that this placement shows 2 weddings in most of the cases. Usually the first partner is melancholic or a weak character... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 28, 2014 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
So that means Pisces DSC... Your relationships are illusional. You fall in love only when someone activates your dreamy world/imagination. I've read that this placement shows 2 weddings in most of the cases. Usually the first partner is melancholic or not a weak character...
I disagree with demonizing certain planets, Neptune in this case. So Middle Age, sorry  IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul
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posted June 28, 2014 08:16 AM
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I disagree with demonizing certain planets, Neptune in this case. So Middle Age, sorry
This is what is mostly written about this DSC through the web and it can differ to every person's chart, due to aspects. I respect your opinion since you respect mine. And yes Neptune is not the best planet, I'm a Pisces AC and it can be tricky really easy. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted June 28, 2014 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
So that means Pisces DSC... Your relationships are illusional. You fall in love only when someone activates your dreamy world/imagination. I've read that this placement shows 2 weddings in most of the cases. Usually the first partner is melancholic or a weak character...
I will agree that 99% of my relationships have been illusions and delusions! Neptune energy is very very comfy for me and in real life I love the ocean...Virgo energy...errhm not so much. It's logical, cold-ish, rational and analytical. Things I TRY to stay away from because I think it's so ******* boring. It's a matter of wanting vs needing. I think Ellyn said that if one can pair one's asc with other person's NN it would be great and I am really curious about this aspect! I have never met a Virgo NN. Maybe he or she can teach me what I need to grow? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 28, 2014 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
This is what is mostly written about this DSC through the web and it can differ to every person's chart, due to aspects. I respect your opinion since you respect mine. And yes Neptune is not the best planet, I'm a Pisces AC and it can be tricky really easy.
I know a woman with Venus conjunct ASC exact. She is very pretty, physically. Also kinda fat. Also self-indulgent, self-loving (egotistical) party-loving (excessively), flattery loving, dishonest flattery giving, excessive love of material things, money and jewelry, flashy kitsch clothes and adornments, a flirt. A nasty character once you know her (of course, this doesn't come from the Venus placement only) Venus in Cancer makes a water Kite: trines Moon and Neptune, apex in Jupiter/Mercury/Uranus. I respect your opinion, but EVERY planet has "malefic" and "benefic" sides. A Libra or Taurus or Sag ASC or DSC is in no way better than a Pisces ASC/DSC, just because Neptune was considered malefic by ancient astrologers. Astrology is supposed to evolve with the rest of human knowledge, you know. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted June 28, 2014 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I know a woman with Venus conjunct ASC exact. She is very pretty, physically. Also kinda fat. Also self-indulgent, self-loving (egotistical) party-loving (excessively), flattery loving, dishonest flattery giving, excessive love of material things, money and jewelry, flashy kitsch clothes and adornments, a flirt. A nasty character once you know her (of course, this doesn't come from the Venus placement only)Venus in Cancer makes a water Kite: trines Moon and Neptune, apex in Jupiter/Mercury/Uranus. I respect your opinion, but EVERY planet has "malefic" and "benefic" sides. A Libra or Taurus or Sag ASC or DSC is in no way better than a Pisces ASC/DSC, just because Neptune was considered malefic by ancient astrologers. Astrology is supposed to evolve with the rest of human knowledge, you know.
I read somewhere that Venus is actually not a "nice" planet but that she is a seductress, vain and sometimes evil. It was Venus and not Lilith. I am 500% sure I can't prove it since I don't recall where it was from. Just adding to what you said about Venus on Asc
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hannaramaa
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posted June 28, 2014 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
You need an openminded partner and probably with Saggie placements. But generally it's true, mutable signs in the axis are bachelors or want cool relationships. Where is your Jupiter placed?
In the 12th -_- In Gemini -_- And it only semi-squares my Venus in Aries, in the 11th. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2014 11:59 AM
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I disagree with demonizing certain planets, Neptune in this case. So Middle Age, sorry
My brothers and I all have Neptune in hard aspect to the DSC ruler. A family heritage, perhaps. No deceptions, no delusions. But, boy the amount of idealisation towards us is huge. Not just romantically; it permeates each and every close relationship. Another family heritage: Strong Sun and Mars and Neptune's magic has never really set with us. That doesn't make Neptune the bad guy, I agree, it's just our preference. However, it is a very difficult planet. 1 in 1000 rides Neptune well. Same goes for the rest of the outer planets. By and large, we, the people, are worms, and would sooner hit the bottle than meditate in the desert. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted June 28, 2014 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
I will agree that 99% of my relationships have been illusions and delusions! Neptune energy is very very comfy for me and in real life I love the ocean...Virgo energy...errhm not so much. It's logical, cold-ish, rational and analytical. Things I TRY to stay away from because I think it's so ******* boring. It's a matter of wanting vs needing. I think Ellyn said that if one can pair one's asc with other person's NN it would be great and I am really curious about this aspect! I have never met a Virgo NN. Maybe he or she can teach me what I need to grow?
I have Pisces dsc and nn. Hmmmmmm. I love neptune energy. I also have Venus conj Neptune. I am very much all about dreamy romantic relationships. I'm not sure if my relationships have been illusions, most of the time I'm doing a lot of the deceiving x.x IP: Logged |
virgolotus
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posted June 28, 2014 01:56 PM
I have a Taurus dsc but it's mostly occupied by Gemini...all I have are flakey, bi-sexual, ******** who just seem conflicted by me. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted June 28, 2014 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I know a woman with Venus conjunct ASC exact. She is very pretty, physically. Also kinda fat. Also self-indulgent, self-loving (egotistical) party-loving (excessively), flattery loving, dishonest flattery giving, excessive love of material things, money and jewelry, flashy kitsch clothes and adornments, a flirt. A nasty character once you know her (of course, this doesn't come from the Venus placement only
Omg I knew a MAN like this. Venus conj asc. He wasn't ugly. Not my type but I couldn't call him ugly. Really tiny but he was cut. But he thought he was so good looking. He always slipped into conversations how attractive he thought he was. SO self indulgent. He spent all his money on eating out, clothes, and things that helped his ego. He was in the military and he would buy stupid bumper stickers and shirts and whatnot advertising that he was. He had a lot of expensive accessories. He fished for compliments and adoration.very charming and such a flirt. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 28, 2014 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
My brothers and I all have Neptune in hard aspect to the DSC ruler. A family heritage, perhaps. No deceptions, no delusions. But, boy the amount of idealisation towards us is huge. Not just romantically; it permeates each and every close relationship. Another family heritage: Strong Sun and Mars and Neptune's magic has never really set with us. That doesn't make Neptune the bad guy, I agree, it's just our preference. However, it is a very difficult planet. 1 in 1000 rides Neptune well. Same goes for the rest of the outer planets. By and large, we, the people, are worms, and would sooner hit the bottle than meditate in the desert.
love the bottle metaphor Well, I guess when Jupiter ruled Pisces, ASC/DSC in Pisces must have been considered the most benefic ASC*DSC around BTW, any Pisces DSC has a Virgo ASC, and no Neptune in all the universes can fool a Virgo for a very long time IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2014 03:59 PM
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love the bottle metaphorWell, I guess when Jupiter ruled Pisces, ASC/DSC in Pisces must have been considered the most benefic ASC*DSC around BTW, any Pisces DSC has a Virgo ASC, and no Neptune in all the universes can fool a Virgo for a very long time
In related news, Neptune on Virgo Asc was very prominent among the cineáste. Artists can be unnerving.
Actually, I think Jupiter (traditionally) was a sign of excessive lust, wandering eye and not good for the woman, because... Poor she if she attracts more than 1 butterfly! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 28, 2014 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
In related news, Neptune on Virgo Asc was very prominent among the cineáste. Artists can be unnerving. Actually, I think Jupiter (traditionally) was a sign of excessive lust, wandering eye and not good for the woman, because... Poor she if she attracts more than 1 butterfly!
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unforgiven_soul
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posted June 29, 2014 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I know a woman with Venus conjunct ASC exact. She is very pretty, physically. Also kinda fat. Also self-indulgent, self-loving (egotistical) party-loving (excessively), flattery loving, dishonest flattery giving, excessive love of material things, money and jewelry, flashy kitsch clothes and adornments, a flirt. A nasty character once you know her (of course, this doesn't come from the Venus placement only)Venus in Cancer makes a water Kite: trines Moon and Neptune, apex in Jupiter/Mercury/Uranus. I respect your opinion, but EVERY planet has "malefic" and "benefic" sides. A Libra or Taurus or Sag ASC or DSC is in no way better than a Pisces ASC/DSC, just because Neptune was considered malefic by ancient astrologers. Astrology is supposed to evolve with the rest of human knowledge, you know.
I mentioned what I've read so far, I'm not a professional of course. Reading a lot helps me understand how it works. Every planet & aspect have their good and bad side. I didn't say that Neptune is the bad guy. From my experience I just realized that with Neptune as a ruler of my AC I fall in love mostly with the state of mind than the human. That's why I said Neptune can be tricky. I love the fact that I'm a dreamer, that my imagination is intense, but illusions are tiring after a point. I guess I'm tired "carrying him" and only dream. I totally agree though with your conclusion. IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul
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posted June 29, 2014 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
I will agree that 99% of my relationships have been illusions and delusions! Neptune energy is very very comfy for me and in real life I love the ocean...Virgo energy...errhm not so much. It's logical, cold-ish, rational and analytical. Things I TRY to stay away from because I think it's so ******* boring. It's a matter of wanting vs needing. I think Ellyn said that if one can pair one's asc with other person's NN it would be great and I am really curious about this aspect! I have never met a Virgo NN. Maybe he or she can teach me what I need to grow?
It's funny because I'm on the other side (Pisces AC, Virgo DSC). I'm usually the one that triggers my partner's imagination and I need that analytical/logical side from a Virgo type. It's not random that my partners/good friends were Virgos or with Virgo placements. There are always more things to check on a natal chart, that's why everyone is unique. NN conjunct AC sounds interesting, depending who's the Node and who's the AC. The one with the NN will be helped to reach closer to his path in this life, and AC will grow it physically to him IP: Logged | |
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