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elise11
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posted June 28, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everybody!
I ve got an interesting question (interesting for me). In our Combine Chart my boyfriend and I have got the AC-DC axis in Scorpio - Taurus. Me,the older partner, is thus represented by Pluto (Mars) and he, the younger partner is represented by Venus. So Venus and Pluto, now, are both in a tight conjunction close to the Ascendant, in House one. (Mars, the old ruler of Scorpio, is in a tight Quintile to Venus). As the Ascendant is Scorpio this means Pluto and Venus both stand in Scorpio . This makes PLuto in exhaltation, being in its own sign, and Venus in Fall!
Me, I m PLuto, he, he's Venus. What does that mean for our relationship? Does he feel he can t really express himself or what?
In our Composite, we have a tight sun-moon conjunction in 5 and a tight venus-mars conjunction in 4. OUr AC is also scorpio.

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posted June 28, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you clarify what you mean by "combined chart"? Do you mean the synastry or the composite?

Do you have a Venus/Pluto aspect in synastry, and you are the Pluto and he is the Venus?

I don't understand why you say, "Me,the older partner, is thus represented by Pluto (Mars) and he, the younger partner is represented by Venus. " :/

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posted June 29, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your answer.
I mean in fact the combine chsrt, which is the birthchart that comes when you calculate the exacte middle between your two birthdays. It is Said that the older partner represents the AC in this chart and the younger One the DC. If AC ruler and DC ruler have a good aspect, this is not Bad! But his DC being in Exile?

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posted June 29, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, elise.

You said:
"It is Said that the older partner represents the AC in this chart and the younger One the DC."

I've never ever heard such a thing... Where did you get that from?

The combined chart as you call it, is in fact the Composite chart.

So you have a Venus/Pluto conjunction in the composite chart?
Or a Venus/Mars conjunction?

I don't think he is represented by the DSC ruler, and I don't think that this means much about HIM but rather about your relationship as a whole.

My guess would be strong attraction, maybe some dependency going on, obsessiveness or controlling tendencies. Jealousy perhaps. In a positive state, very deep loving and caring feelings, passion, intensity.

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posted June 30, 2014 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks
At astro com you can in fact make a synastry chart, a composite chart or a combine chart which is sth different. I m German, i think German astrologers are experimenting a lot with combine Charts. It is generally suggested that in dich a chart the two partners are represented by the AC DC axis and the Planet rulers involved

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posted June 30, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh... Interesting.

In that case I can't really comment further.

But if I follow your theory, then his significator Venus would indeed be in detriment in Scorpio, while your significator Pluto is domicile.

They're conjunct, so that would mean that you are both into each other and feel like a couple, a unit.

But he could be experiencing the negative side of Pluto, perhaps, being the jealous or controlling one? Would that make sense? Or he has insecurity and clings to you?
On the other hand, it could also be mutual, or maybe you're the one exhibiting those traits.

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posted June 30, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thalia for your interest
Combines are in fact commonly interpreted like this you can read that on quite a few reknown oages.
Of course i Interpret the conjunction as a very good sign. It s of course supposed to be good if the planets you represent have a positive Connection.
We er both really involved and what is interesting have that ying Yang or female male thing. Its like we both have a certain role not so mich conditioned by Society but by sth deeper more Natural in the Union. Maybe it s just that i feel i m the sun i can express myself more in the sunlight while he s more the recipient, passive. For me that feels Natural like shadow and sun who Need each other i just hope that he doesn t feel like he needs to be sun as well because for me i Need his shadow part as much as the sun energy i feel it completes me do you know what i mean

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posted June 30, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

Just to clarify: the composite chart isn't the same as the combined chart??

I've tried to look into it but haven't found anything...

And yes I think what you said makes sense.
Could it be due to something in the synastry, though?

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elise11
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posted July 01, 2014 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm in synastry.. I Don t know
You can easily find the combine chart on astro com. Whereas in a composite the midüoints of the 2 Charts are taken which makes it an artificial chart the combine on the other Hand is a Real chart which was in the Sky exactly at the Time between the 2 birthdates. German astrologers usually Interpret it Differently to the composite: they rather attribute planets to the partners and See how they feel and interact in the rekationship. Or else: it is also very Common that German astrologers say a composite describes the first Time in the relationship and the combine the later State of the relationdhip once it is really established

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