posted July 02, 2014 01:31 AM            

- I think the trine just helps me see difficult women/people/things from what they are and it helps me respond to them accordingly.

With my opposition it's pretty easy to sever ties with/ignore someone and move on (I know, probably sounds bad). I guess I don't get too attached? (though my square to Mars plays a part too).

- I'm not sure if I can precisely pinpoint how the Moon/Pluto trine helps me with Moon issues in general. I'm a Cancer Asc with Moon as my dominant planet, and it makes quite a few aspects. I feel my hard aspects (Moon-Mars/Uranus)the most when it comes to Moon issues.

posted July 02, 2014 07:05 AM            

When I read up on these two as individual aspects they don't seem overwhelmingly accurate. At least not according to what's posted at http://darkstarastrology.com/moon-trine-pluto/ and http://darkstarastrology.com/moon-opposite-mars/ . Some of it maybe, but I'm not especially close with my extended family (with one or two exceptions) and I'm generally very non-competitive. I should probably do a little more digging though.

But like Chiemi I do find it very easy to sever ties. In my case though I think it's more that I tend to establish interpersonal bonds that have a built-in distance safety net of some kind.

I can sometimes perseverate/fixate on failed/failing relationships in those rare instances when someone really has gotten in past this natural barrier. Eventually the intensity of it all causes a sort of isolated emotional burnout regarding that particular woman, and then *poof*, they're pretty much meaningless to me. Otherwise I guess I have a fairly normal, healthy relationship with my mother and older sister (both of whom easily qualify as "difficult women"). Sure, we fight sometimes but get along for the most part.

Honestly though, this is the first time I've given these two specific aspects much thought since in my chart they're tied in with some much heavier Sun/Moon/Saturn/Jupiter stuff.

posted July 02, 2014 11:43 AM            

I am wondering if it is actually moon trine Pluto that helps you move on? I have an easier than average time seeing people for what they are and moving on just like you described...I also have moon trine Uranus.

posted July 02, 2014 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
I do. Moon trine Pluto and opposite Uranus.

- I think the trine just helps me see difficult women/people/things from what they are and it helps me respond to them accordingly.

With my opposition it's pretty easy to sever ties with/ignore someone and move on (I know, probably sounds bad). I guess I don't get too attached? (though my square to Mars plays a part too).

- I'm not sure if I can precisely pinpoint how the Moon/Pluto trine helps me with Moon issues in general. I'm a Cancer Asc with Moon as my dominant planet, and it makes quite a few aspects. I feel my hard aspects (Moon-Mars/Uranus)the most when it comes to Moon issues.

I hope I gave good enough answers to what you were looking for.

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I have the exact same aspects.

I've never really had trouble letting go or getting rid of someone. It's always been rather easy for me.

posted July 02, 2014 01:12 PM            

It's kinda like my chart says, "If you are toxic to me I have no problem walking out the door and never looking back."

That's the Pluto part...

I have seen biographies of Scorpio suns who have coldness in their lives, too, example, they have disowned people for various reasons. Is this the Pluto influence as well? Most people think Saturn for coldness or Uranus for separation. Plutonians seem to be able to let go when they must and it's final.

posted July 02, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Thanks for answering, Chiemi and Brontex!

I am wondering if it is actually moon trine Pluto that helps you move on? I have an easier than average time seeing people for what they are and moving on just like you described...I also have moon trine Uranus.

It seems kinda cold to people without moon/Pluto. I can detect bs really easily and I see a lot of it with my lunar opposition and just walk away.

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No problem!

And I'm sure Moon/Pluto does play a part since Pluto/8th house is all about transformation, renewal, death/rebirth, etc.

So with Moon in easy aspect to Pluto it allows us to easily transform and end (death) relationships that aren't positive and helpful to us and start new while those without such aspects have a harder time of letting go.

posted July 02, 2014 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I have mixed feelings about disowning. On the one hand, there's a sense of calm from not having to deal with the anxiety producing, tense, scary situation ever again. On the other, it seems cold and inhumane to cut someone off just like that and never want to have anything to do with them ever again. It's a death of sorts, without them actually dying.

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I feel the same way too sometimes because not everyone operates the same way or understands this solution/response to eliminate toxic people from your life so sometimes I do stop and wonder if this way of reacting to people is more harmful than good.

At the same time however, I've seen older people who don't cut out toxic people and to be honest I've still yet found an example where that person has been of any positive benefit in their life. I think that some people get so caught up in "oh, I've been friends with betty for 40 years" and keeping up the appearance of a great "friendship/relationship/etc" but deep down there's issues of manipulation, cheating, lying, envy, etc. within the relationship which I personally don't see the point of lol (I'd rather be alone than deal with that personally).

My grandma for example is a "friend" like this. Long story short she had a friend (passed away) who was married to a cheater and my grandma (who was also friends with him) knew and didn't even really care to give her "friend" sound advice to leave the guy so she stayed with him and ended up miserable. He ended up leaving her and she ended up getting diabetes and since she was stubborn and didn't care she did nothing to improve her health. So what does my grandma do? Nothing. She didn't try to correct her friend or help/advise her to eat healthy or anything and she knew the state of her health. But she sure did go on and on about how she was a "friend" for decades. The friend later passed away because of her health issues and my grandma barely even cried.

posted July 02, 2014 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:

So with that said I'd still opt to cut someone toxic out of my life than keep them (but I may grow older and experience life to teach me otherwise). I just personally feel that since I only have one life to live, I should at least make sure I'm surrounded by people who genuinely love and care for me as much as I do them.

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That sounds like great advice! I grew up in such a strange situation...without an ego, pretty much. So, I had this way of relating to the world that made me look like I had absolutely no sense of self worth. I have Neptune in the second house.

So, I have had to figure out on my own how to be like others and demand the way others do. My mother (and people around me) pretty much taught me to not speak up and when I did, I got in serious trouble so I got this really warped idea of when to speak up. I was raised in a children should be seen and not heard environment and my mother was insane on the discipline until she went to counseling.

Even now my relatives say I have no self confidence yet whenever I tried to be confident in my youth, they did all they could to under mind me. So, it has been a confusing ordeal and still is. They leave me with the impression they will never be satisfied with anything I do so I give up *shrug*.

posted July 02, 2014 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That sounds like great advice! I grew up in such a strange situation...without an ego, pretty much. So, I had this way of relating to the world that made me look like I had absolutely no sense of self worth. I have Neptune in the second house.

So, I have had to figure out on my own how to be like others and demand the way others do. My mother (and people around me) pretty much taught me to not speak up and when I did, I got in serious trouble so I got this really warped idea of when to speak up. I was raised in a children should be seen and not heard environment and my mother was insane on the discipline until she went to counseling.

Even now my relatives say I have no self confidence yet whenever I tried to be confident in my youth, they did all they could to under mind me. So, it has been a confusing ordeal and still is. They leave me with the impression they will never be satisfied with anything I do so I give up *shrug*.

This Pluto aspect has helped me figure out how to be more like others, what normal expectations are, stand up for myself, stuff like this.

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Thank you!

And I'm sorry to hear that, it gets to me how some people will do things to a person and have the audacity to ask why they're reacting a certain way to it. (ex. hitting someone and then asking why they're crying or why they flinch from people when they raise their hand).

With "family" like that I'd personally just love them (and pray for them if you're into that) from a distance and go my own way.

Glad to hear that you're learning to stand up for yourself and live your life on your own terms

posted July 02, 2014 08:37 PM            

He has moon opposition pluto with moon trine uranus.

He also has Venus opposition Uranus.

From my understanding, he doesn't understand women at all.

He's very selfish, insensitive, and fickle with his emotions.

That Moon in Taurus opposition Pluto in Scorpio definitely brings out his intensity, but it also makes him very controlling and any sign of deep intimacy or love and he's on the next flight to a new woman!