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deptic
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posted July 03, 2014 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sign Ophiuchus...

How do i re-calculate my moon sign n other signs with this in it? apparently I'm an Ophi now lol. Dec 6

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infinite.nebula
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posted July 03, 2014 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question.
Is this sign seen as traits to the other signs or is it a new sign itself? Does it even matter? Im curious about this too. People mention it and i become confused. What am i supposed to say? Lol

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 03, 2014 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-q7E_4MRG6CE/T7qCBFbPlgI/AAAAAAAAAlI/fsByldyBVU8/s1600/nooo.gif

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 03, 2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loled.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 03, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, this is just my perspective, but that 13th sign is bull. Astrology works perfectly fine without adding anything to it (for now, IME).

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deptic
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posted July 03, 2014 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know! .. i mean, it would be cool! to say atleast lol. Any way to re-calculate?

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earthypisces
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posted July 03, 2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's PlutoFish when you need him? Anyone seen our resident Ophiuchus activist lately?

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anonymidarkness
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posted July 03, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah, he has transformed into a Cat.

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 03, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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but that 13th sign is bull.

Hey, we already have a bull in the zodiac

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posted July 03, 2014 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]but that 13th sign is bull.

Hey, we already have a bull in the zodiac

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted July 03, 2014 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 13th sign CANNOT logically work in Tropical Astrology (in fact, the constellations have nothing to do with it), so if you're wondering about it for that, just forget about it because it's irrelevant to Tropical Astrology.

Now Sidereal Astrology is another topic. Perhaps it "could" do something there, since the Sidereal Zodiac is the constellations which are on the ecliptic, and Ophiuchus touches the ecliptic... so maybe.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted July 03, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by earthypisces:
Where's PlutoFish when you need him? Anyone seen our resident Ophiuchus activist lately?


He's Mystic Cat can't you tell? It's so blantaly obvious

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earthypisces
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posted July 03, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
He's Mystic Cat can't you tell? It's so blantaly obvious

I knew he had a new account, but I'd forgotten what his username was.

Hopefully he'll see this thread and educate the OP.

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infinite.nebula
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posted July 03, 2014 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Alright, this is just my perspective, but that 13th sign is bull. Astrology works perfectly fine without adding anything to it (for now, IME).

Yes i agree. Plus there are other constelations around the ecliptic and the "13th" sign would have been included years ago if it was meant to be? It has been around for a while just seems pointless to be adding it in there "all of a sudden".

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Lotis White
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posted July 03, 2014 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 13th sign is CRAP

Here’s why…

Even though the signs are named after 12 constellations, the boundaries of the signs themselves are actually not defined by the constellations at all.

The boundaries of the signs are defined by Earths cycle around the Sun, with the cardinal signs starting on the equinoxes and solstices. Zero Aries starts on one equinox (Spring in the Northern Hemisphere, Autumn/Fall in the Southern Hemisphere). Zero Libra starts at the other equinox (Autumn/Fall in the Northern Hemisphere, Spring in the Southern Hemisphere). Zero Cancer and Capricorn each take a solstice (Zero Capricorn has the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Summer Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere. Zero Cancer has the Summer Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Winter Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere). The ecliptic has been sliced up into signs according to these seasonal points because, as we know, the tilt of the Earth causes the seasons to happen as it rotates around the Sun.

Conclusion, the fact that there is a constellation called Ophiuchus has no impact on the order of the zodiac. There are many constellations out there and not all of them have a sign named after them. The 13th sign is crap.

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Randall
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posted July 05, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Lotis said.

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AlexDern
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posted July 05, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no such thing...as the 13th sign. Reminds me of an old samurai tale. There were twelve chief samurai and a 13th person claimed to also be a chief samurai. All the other samurai descended upon him with their Kitanas and showed him why there were only 12 samurai. Never again did someone claim to be the 13th warrior.

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amelia28
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posted July 05, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]but that 13th sign is bull.

Hey, we already have a bull in the zodiac

[/QUOTE]

LOL

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amelia28
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posted July 05, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotis White:
The 13th sign is CRAP

Here’s why…

Even though the signs are named after 12 constellations, the boundaries of the signs themselves are actually not defined by the constellations at all.

The boundaries of the signs are defined by Earths cycle around the Sun, with the cardinal signs starting on the equinoxes and solstices. Zero Aries starts on one equinox (Spring in the Northern Hemisphere, Autumn/Fall in the Southern Hemisphere). Zero Libra starts at the other equinox (Autumn/Fall in the Northern Hemisphere, Spring in the Southern Hemisphere). Zero Cancer and Capricorn each take a solstice (Zero Capricorn has the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Summer Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere. Zero Cancer has the Summer Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Winter Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere). The ecliptic has been sliced up into signs according to these seasonal points because, as we know, the tilt of the Earth causes the seasons to happen as it rotates around the Sun.

Conclusion, the fact that there is a constellation called Ophiuchus has no impact on the order of the zodiac. There are many constellations out there and not all of them have a sign named after them. The 13th sign is crap.


Ever since I heard about the "13th sign" I immediately just didn't buy it..instinctively it just didnt add up so I ignored.

Great breakdown as to why, thanks.

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