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Topic: Ascendants
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infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 03, 2014 09:28 PM
What aspects are worth noting with the rising sign.For example: In my chart Pluto is in the 12 house at 15degrees Scorpio and my Ascendant is 15degrees Scorpio exact conjunction, what could that do? What other aspects are worth mentioning? IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 04, 2014 04:15 AM
I've heard if Venus or mars are in the first house it could make you seem more appealing. My bf has both in the first house and he had women all over him back in the day lol. IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 04, 2014 07:14 AM
I have mars sextile my ascendant exact, jupiter conuct acsendant inside 1st house, sun and mercury in 1st house.Jupiter makes me contagiously optimistic. I don't know what does mars do to me though... IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 105 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted July 04, 2014 01:41 PM
Scorpio rising with Pluto conjunct exact? When you walk into a room, I bet there is a palpable shock felt. Scoripo Asc already gives a certain presence and its ruler conjunct is like adding a generator to that effect.In my opinion, aspects to the angles are undervalued. But when considering them, a tighter orb than normal must be used since one side of the aspect is a point and not a planet. IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 04, 2014 07:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by MagnumJoe: I have mars sextile my ascendant exact, jupiter conuct acsendant inside 1st house, sun and mercury in 1st house.Jupiter makes me contagiously optimistic. I don't know what does mars do to me though...
Contagiously optimistic would be great no? You are a necessity! IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5039 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 04, 2014 07:19 PM
answered ur natal chart thread btwIP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 04, 2014 07:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: Scorpio rising with Pluto conjunct exact? When you walk into a room, I bet there is a palpable shock felt. Scoripo Asc already gives a certain presence and its ruler conjunct is like adding a generator to that effect.In my opinion, aspects to the angles are undervalued. But when considering them, a tighter orb than normal must be used since one side of the aspect is a point and not a planet.
If there is any kind of shock I don't feel it lol. Pluto is in my 12 house at 15.01 and my ascendant is 15.53 so pretty close. Thanks for commenting on that. Just curious aspects to the angles. What do you mean exactly? Could you give an example I'm curious.IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 04, 2014 07:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: answered ur natal chart thread btw
thank you! IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 04, 2014 07:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by infinite.nebula:
Contagiously optimistic would be great no? You are a necessity!
Lol I have an energy that makes almost anyone happy and forget his problems Wow i am heroin I am actually always high! IP: Logged |
AlexDern Knowflake Posts: 525 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 04, 2014 07:40 PM
To be quite frank, I've found it very hard to engage with people one on one who have any planets in the first house.I find that when a person has planets in the first house it makes them kind of like a bumble-bee going from flower to flower. For example, Sun in the first house - for at least a dozen people - seems to bring around them groups so that they need to talk to many people to be satisfied. I find that people with planets in the 7th/8th/ or 6th house are the best people to partner up with for work/help/charm/success. I think this is why the 1st house people may do well in more superficial industries like acting, where you have to betray and back stab to rise to the top... This is true for most professions to a degree, but comparing Hollywood to a corporate job is the difference between a full out world war and a simple tennis match. The exception to this is trasnpersonal planets. In this case, the native becomes very in tune with partnerships...I think these tend to be karmic placements that create a more divine destiny as opposed to one of fame. IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 12:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by AlexDern: To be quite frank, I've found it very hard to engage with people one on one who have any planets in the first house.I find that when a person has planets in the first house it makes them kind of like a bumble-bee going from flower to flower. For example, Sun in the first house - for at least a dozen people - seems to bring around them groups so that they need to talk to many people to be satisfied. I find that people with planets in the 7th/8th/ or 6th house are the best people to partner up with for work/help/charm/success. I think this is why the 1st house people may do well in more superficial industries like acting, where you have to betray and back stab to rise to the top... This is true for most professions to a degree, but comparing Hollywood to a corporate job is the difference between a full out world war and a simple tennis match. The exception to this is trasnpersonal planets. In this case, the native becomes very in tune with partnerships...I think these tend to be karmic placements that create a more divine destiny as opposed to one of fame.
That's interesting would make sense to me. Almost like a need to be noticed. Somewhat superficial or they feel a need to impress others kind of attitude. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 105 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted July 05, 2014 03:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by infinite.nebula: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Gemini Blues: [b]Scorpio rising with Pluto conjunct exact? When you walk into a room, I bet there is a palpable shock felt. Scoripo Asc already gives a certain presence and its ruler conjunct is like adding a generator to that effect.In my opinion, aspects to the angles are undervalued. But when considering them, a tighter orb than normal must be used since one side of the aspect is a point and not a planet.
If there is any kind of shock I don't feel it lol. Pluto is in my 12 house at 15.01 and my ascendant is 15.53 so pretty close. Thanks for commenting on that. Just curious aspects to the angles. What do you mean exactly? Could you give an example I'm curious.[/B][/QUOTE] The shock wouldn't be felt by you, it would be by the others in the room you walked into. Actually, it's not uncommon for Scorpio rising to not be completely aware of the effect they have on others. Aspects to the angles... such as a planet comjunct, trine, or square to the ascendant, are in my opinion quite valid to consider. But my personal theory is because the ascendant is just a calculated point in space rather than an object with mass, you must reduce the orb allowed for the aspect. However, in your case, Pluto is so close to exact, anything that makes an aspect to Pluto will also aspect your Asc. It's as if nothing can touch your outward self without activating that Pluto energy. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5304 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 05, 2014 03:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by AlexDern: To be quite frank, I've found it very hard to engage with people one on one who have any planets in the first house.I find that when a person has planets in the first house it makes them kind of like a bumble-bee going from flower to flower. For example, Sun in the first house - for at least a dozen people - seems to bring around them groups so that they need to talk to many people to be satisfied. I find that people with planets in the 7th/8th/ or 6th house are the best people to partner up with for work/help/charm/success. I think this is why the 1st house people may do well in more superficial industries like acting, where you have to betray and back stab to rise to the top... This is true for most professions to a degree, but comparing Hollywood to a corporate job is the difference between a full out world war and a simple tennis match. The exception to this is trasnpersonal planets. In this case, the native becomes very in tune with partnerships...I think these tend to be karmic placements that create a more divine destiny as opposed to one of fame.
Sun in the first house doesn’t need to be around others, others come to Sun in first house on their own. They are magnetic, they won’t need to make any effort. A Leo Sun does not need to make any effort to boss around others, it happens on it’s own. It is similar for Sun in 1H in terms of attracting people. @infinite I think you’re not aware of it because it conjuncts your ASC from 12th house, the blind spot. You may have to do a little bit of digging to be aware of it. But others will be aware of your impact. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2242 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 01:54 PM
Aspects to asc, are more readily seen in the open. Unable to be hidden even if you wanted them to be. (mostly conjunctions from the first) Conjunctions from the 12th are not as well seen. I have Mars conjunct from the 12th. I've heard that others can sense it, but not exactly see it and you yourself may not be aware of it at all. I have pluto conjunct from the first. It gives a penetrating gaze, ability to sense people's emotions (intuition). Stay calm during crisis, ability to transform oneself after a life event. (able to pick yourself up after a fall) Give off a sense of power, sexual magnetism, and that "don't mess with me or I'll have your intestines for dinner. With it in the 12th, you will have these things, but be a bit more subtle. With it in Scorpio though, it may also seem a bit more natural and pure, just not quite as "in your face" as it would be in the first. With a Scorpio rising also. More of the positive qualities will be seen. Pluto by itself is kind of a double-edged sword really. Just my opinion IP: Logged |
Plutonian_Gal8 Knowflake Posts: 363 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 05, 2014 10:32 PM
You have a way with words DeepFreeze; at least it's good for me to see another person understand how unique but often tough it can be to have a Scorpio Rising. Well for me, there's a love/hate thing going on.
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Aspects to asc, are more readily seen in the open. Unable to be hidden even if you wanted them to be. (mostly conjunctions from the first) I have pluto conjunct from the first. It gives a penetrating gaze, ability to sense people's emotions (intuition). Stay calm during crisis, ability to transform oneself after a life event. (able to pick yourself up after a fall) Give off a sense of power, sexual magnetism, and that "don't mess with me or I'll have your intestines for dinner.
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BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 01:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by AlexDern: To be quite frank, I've found it very hard to engage with people one on one who have any planets in the first house.I find that when a person has planets in the first house it makes them kind of like a bumble-bee going from flower to flower. For example, Sun in the first house - for at least a dozen people - seems to bring around them groups so that they need to talk to many people to be satisfied. I find that people with planets in the 7th/8th/ or 6th house are the best people to partner up with for work/help/charm/success. I think this is why the 1st house people may do well in more superficial industries like acting, where you have to betray and back stab to rise to the top... This is true for most professions to a degree, but comparing Hollywood to a corporate job is the difference between a full out world war and a simple tennis match. The exception to this is trasnpersonal planets. In this case, the native becomes very in tune with partnerships...I think these tend to be karmic placements that create a more divine destiny as opposed to one of fame.
I have Uranus, Neptune, Mercury, Venus, Saturn in the first house. Why can't we be friends???
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: [B]Aspects to asc, are more readily seen in the open. Unable to be hidden even if you wanted them to be. (mostly conjunctions from the first)
^ this is very true, probably why people are confused/inconclusive about my personality IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 02:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: The shock wouldn't be felt by you, it would be by the others in the room you walked into. Actually, it's not uncommon for Scorpio rising to not be completely aware of the effect they have on others.Aspects to the angles... such as a planet comjunct, trine, or square to the ascendant, are in my opinion quite valid to consider. But my personal theory is because the ascendant is just a calculated point in space rather than an object with mass, you must reduce the orb allowed for the aspect. However, in your case, Pluto is so close to exact, anything that makes an aspect to Pluto will also aspect your Asc. It's as if nothing can touch your outward self without activating that Pluto energy.
Thanks for the info and that seems like a very a good personal theory too! IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 02:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Sun in the first house doesn’t need to be around others, others come to Sun in first house on their own. They are magnetic, they won’t need to make any effort. A Leo Sun does not need to make any effort to boss around others, it happens on it’s own. It is similar for Sun in 1H in terms of attracting people.@infinite I think you’re not aware of it because it conjuncts your ASC from 12th house, the blind spot. You may have to do a little bit of digging to be aware of it. But others will be aware of your impact.
Interesting. I recently found out my words have a big impact on my friends when I give them information. They almost seem to accept it as fact no questions asked.. IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 02:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by MagnumJoe: LolI have an energy that makes almost anyone happy and forget his problems Wow i am heroin I am actually always high!
That's awesome. IP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 02:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Aspects to asc, are more readily seen in the open. Unable to be hidden even if you wanted them to be. (mostly conjunctions from the first) Conjunctions from the 12th are not as well seen. I have Mars conjunct from the 12th. I've heard that others can sense it, but not exactly see it and you yourself may not be aware of it at all. I have pluto conjunct from the first. It gives a penetrating gaze, ability to sense people's emotions (intuition). Stay calm during crisis, ability to transform oneself after a life event. (able to pick yourself up after a fall) Give off a sense of power, sexual magnetism, and that "don't mess with me or I'll have your intestines for dinner. With it in the 12th, you will have these things, but be a bit more subtle. With it in Scorpio though, it may also seem a bit more natural and pure, just not quite as "in your face" as it would be in the first. With a Scorpio rising also. More of the positive qualities will be seen. Pluto by itself is kind of a double-edged sword really. Just my opinion
Thanks for explaining it in that way it made sence. Some of you guys on here should create a site built with all your ideas and theorys I'd visit for sure!IP: Logged |
Zak243 Newflake Posts: 9 From: california Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 11:44 PM
I have my sun and mercury in the 8th house but also have neptune and uranus in the first house. Capricorn rising. Its always been hard for me to approach others without making things awkward.IP: Logged |
elise11 Knowflake Posts: 41 From: deutschland Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 09, 2014 05:40 PM
bellafenice how do you feel with that many aspects in the 1st house? a guy i m interested in has the same. he has venus neptune uranus directly at the ascendant and saturn mars sun 20 degrees away. first i thought he was very giving and empathetic and he is in fact (pisces moon) but somehow i feel more and more he just thinks about his own fortune first before he really thinks about others. i don t know. it s difficult to describe. he seems to be loving and caring, truly, but then.. for example last week i said we could watch a live band which i know he likes, but first reaction was "ok i have to see if i like their new album as well before we go". don t misunderstand me, i know that he s fond of me, but it s like he just puts himself first instinctively or he s just not that happy to make so else happy (i would have gone to the concert just because of him know what i mean) also he needs much contacts, not in the sense of betrayal but groups are simply important to him (he s an acquarius i m a taurus) planets in the first what do you need, what do you think? do you really go from flower to flower do you need attention or what?IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 06:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by elise11: bellafenice how do you feel with that many aspects in the 1st house? a guy i m interested in has the same. he has venus neptune uranus directly at the ascendant and saturn mars sun 20 degrees away. first i thought he was very giving and empathetic and he is in fact (pisces moon) but somehow i feel more and more he just thinks about his own fortune first before he really thinks about others. i don t know. it s difficult to describe. he seems to be loving and caring, truly, but then.. for example last week i said we could watch a live band which i know he likes, but first reaction was "ok i have to see if i like their new album as well before we go". don t misunderstand me, i know that he s fond of me, but it s like he just puts himself first instinctively or he s just not that happy to make so else happy (i would have gone to the concert just because of him know what i mean) also he needs much contacts, not in the sense of betrayal but groups are simply important to him (he s an acquarius i m a taurus) planets in the first what do you need, what do you think? do you really go from flower to flower do you need attention or what?
Wow he's Aqua Sun and Pisces Moon just like me! I also have Psyche in first. Is he a Cap ASC? First go to my H&H thread if you want to get an idea of my personality. Second, I would make a new thread if you really want to know: I don't want to derail or go OT in this thread. I don't mind answering, just don't want to be rude. IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 09, 2014 06:12 PM
Oh i forgot:Other than sun, mercury, and jupiter, i have my neptune conjunct my psyche in 1st house, and they both conjunct my sun out of sign in the 1st house. I see dead people
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mareaire Knowflake Posts: 127 From: avalon Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 09, 2014 06:18 PM
I have sun conjunct asc from the 12th, almost exact, and mars conjunct from the 1st, almost exact.opposing this on my dsc, sits jupiter and uranus. with mars in the first, i can be much more assertive and bold than typical 12th house sun interpretations. But I do retreat, and keep a lot secrets/hidden thoughts/etc ...especially with mercury in the 12th. with mars on the asc i often feel like a super hero...haha. seriously, i just get this warrior vibe. IP: Logged |