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AquaWithaHeart Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 08:22 AM
Sometimes I can feel my anger building up but I won't react on it because I'm afraid I might go too far like cut someone with a plastic spoon or be overpower if that make sense Chart right here IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 01:43 PM
I've heard that about Cap Mars. Plus you are earth dominant anyway and IMO earth does that. Like a volcano that builds and builds and finally one day releases everything. IP: Logged |
AquaWithaHeart Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: I've heard that about Cap Mars. Plus you are earth dominant anyway and IMO earth does that. Like a volcano that builds and builds and finally one day releases everything.
*sighs*you maybe right, sometimes I wish had an aries mars.its just that I feel my anger rising but something hold me back until I do longer can but it takes years for that to happen.I only snap twice and both times the police were called IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 05, 2014 03:31 PM
Perhaps is bc the ruler of your mars is Saturn and saturn squares Pluto and Pluto rules your 12th house. I think that sums it up .IP: Logged |
AquaWithaHeart Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 05:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: Perhaps is bc the ruler of your mars is Saturn and saturn squares Pluto and Pluto rules your 12th house. I think that sums it up .
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fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 05, 2014 06:45 PM
I have Taurus Mars opp 3H Scorpio Mercury. Mars is also at the apex of one of my Yods & inconjunct Pluto. Lucky for me Mars is retro which causes me MOST of the time to turn inward which is part of the cause of my intermittent depression. Other times, I am the Incredible Hulk. What I have learned over my 40 years is voicing my irritation asap is imperative to staying healthy. I no longer can afford to hold in the anger until I literally see red, eviscerate the perpatrator verbally or knock them out. If I maintain my cool & discuss the matter at hand with the offender calmly, everyone wins. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 05, 2014 06:48 PM
Also, no one is worth jail/prison. That is your new mantra.------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 631 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 06:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: I've heard that about Cap Mars. Plus you are earth dominant anyway and IMO earth does that. Like a volcano that builds and builds and finally one day releases everything.
Guilty as charged (earth mars)! I don't get angry, but when I do get out of the way because you will get the horns! To be fair, I have to be seriously provoked to get there. I am talking verbal though, have never gotten physical. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: I have Taurus Mars opp 3H Scorpio Mercury. Mars is also at the apex of one of my Yods & inconjunct Pluto. Lucky for me Mars is retro which causes me MOST of the time to turn inward which is part of the cause of my intermittent depression. Other times, I am the Incredible Hulk. What I have learned over my 40 years is voicing my irritation asap is imperative to staying healthy. I no longer can afford to hold in the anger until I literally see red, eviscerate the perpatrator verbally or knock them out. If I maintain my cool & discuss the matter at hand with the offender calmly, everyone wins.
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ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 174 From: second star to the right, and straight on till morning Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 07:40 PM
Mars conjunct Uranus is described as having violent potential. The aspect in Capricorn where the energy is suppressed and allowed to well explains what you described pretty accurately. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 05, 2014 08:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars: Mars conjunct Uranus is described as having violent potential. The aspect in Capricorn where the energy is suppressed and allowed to well explains what you described pretty accurately.
That is true mars conjunct uranus has this effect where anger just builds up and then blows up unexpectedly! So the fact that he has mars conjunct uranus combined with saturn ruling his mars and squaring pluto and pluto ruling his 12th would lead to someone who holds it in but eventually can just blow up bc of the mars conjunc uranus... I would be mindful of transits..try to prepare ahead of time; working on learning how to better cope with this.. My husband has mars/uranus/DC conjunction and this conjunction is ruled by pluto which also rules his dc. In addition mars rules his 12th house and he just sets off every now and then leading to holes in the walls and damaged property that is often valuable; saturn is transiting his mars/uranus/dc and this has kept the outbursts in check it seems. I also think that saturn perhaps is making him work on better dealing with this energy. I think bc saturns rules your mars something in you holds you back and helps you keep that anger in check but do find a way to express it....find a hobby were you can release this build up constructively! IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1929 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 05, 2014 09:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by AquaWithaHeart: Sometimes I can feel my anger building up but I won't react on it because I'm afraid I might go too far like cut someone with a plastic spoon or be overpower if that make sense Chart right here
I have a pretty bad temper myself. I am pretty friendly but if someone ****** me off i know it will get violent on my part. But it has to be something very bad for my temper to get like that. Ill be honest. Thats why i dont own any weapons. I know i am capable of blind rage. Then regretting it later lol.
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amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 05, 2014 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: I have a pretty bad temper myself. I am pretty friendly but if someone ****** me off i know it will get violent on my part. But it has to be something very bad for my temper to get like that. Ill be honest. Thats why i dont own any weapons. I know i am capable of blind rage. Then regretting it later lol.
Can you post your natal chart? IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 320 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 01:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: Also, no one is worth jail/prison. That is your new mantra.
Yup. For those of us that live our lives with anger it's hard to see that other people aren't to tolerant with anger or outbursts. The littlest things scare people and more people call cops on stupid things than you think. Don't give into your anger. It's an addictive release. Just walk away. Physically exert yourself. And holy 2nd house! Aqua suns tend to get pretty angry. Uranian chaos. IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1929 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 04:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: Can you post your natal chart?
Sun 27°52' Gemini Moon 29°32' Taurus Mercury 7°47' Gemini Venus 22°54' Taurus Mars 8°19' Libra Jupiter 0°32' Я Scorpio Saturn 15°30' Libra Uranus 1°35' Я Sagittarius Neptune 25°36' Я Sagittarius Pluto 24°11' Я Libra Chiron 25°24' Taurus Ceres 14°15' Я Scorpio Pallas 4°50' Libra Juno 5°07' Я Capricorn Vesta 28°23' Aquarius Node 13°23' Я Cancer Lilith 3°51' Я Capricorn Fortune 29°09' Gemini AS 27°30' Cancer MC 11°34' Aries Planets in Houses* Sun House 12 Moon House 11 Mercury House 11 Venus House 11 Mars House 3 Jupiter House 4 Saturn House 4 Uranus House 5 Neptune House 6 Pluto House 4 Chiron House 11 Ceres House 4 Pallas House 3 Juno House 6 Vesta House 8 Node House 12 Lilith House 6 Fortune House 12 * In keeping with the common practice, we consider that a planet posited within 1 degree of the next house belongs to that house. We allow an orb of 2 degrees for the ASC and the MC.
Positions of Houses House 1 27°30' Cancer House 2 17°27' Leo House 3 11°18' Virgo House 4 11°34' Libra House 5 18°16' Scorpio House 6 25°34' Sagittarius House 7 27°30' Capricorn House 8 17°27' Aquarius House 9 11°18' Pisces House 10 11°34' Aries House 11 18°16' Taurus House 12 25°34' Gemini List of Aspects Jupiter Conjunction Pluto Orb 6°21' Moon Conjunction Venus Orb 6°37' Mars Conjunction Saturn Orb 7°10' Moon Conjunction Mercury Orb 8°14' Saturn Conjunction Pluto Orb 8°40' Moon Opposite Uranus Orb 2°02' Sun Opposite Neptune Orb 2°15' Mars Opposite MC Orb 3°14' Saturn Opposite MC Orb 3°56' Mercury Opposite Uranus Orb 6°12' Venus Opposite Uranus Orb 8°40' Jupiter Square AS Orb 3°02' Pluto Square AS Orb 3°18' Mercury Trine Mars Orb 0°32' Sun Trine Jupiter Orb 2°40' Sun Trine Pluto Orb 3°41' Uranus Trine AS Orb 4°05' Mercury Trine Saturn Orb 7°43' Neptune Sextile Pluto Orb 1°25' Moon Sextile AS Orb 2°02' Mercury Sextile MC Orb 3°46' Venus Sextile AS Orb 4°35' Jupiter Sextile Neptune Orb 4°55' Moon Inconjunction Jupiter Orb 1°00' Venus Inconjunction Pluto Orb 1°16' Neptune Inconjunction AS Orb 1°53' Venus Inconjunction Neptune Orb 2°42' Saturn SemiSquare Uranus Orb 1°04' Venus SesquiQuadrate Mars Orb 0°25' Moon SesquiQuadrate Saturn Orb 0°57' Mercury SesquiQuadrate Pluto Orb 1°24' Mars Quintile AS Orb 1°10' Moon BiQuintile Pluto Orb 0°38' Sun SemiSextile AS Orb 0°22' Jupiter SemiSextile Uranus Orb 1°02' Sun SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°39'
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Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 1929 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 04:38 AM
Aquawith a heart, we both have taurus moons. Taurus can be tempermental when someone ***** with us.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 07, 2014 02:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: Aquawith a heart, we both have taurus moons. Taurus can be tempermental when someone ***** with us.
The ruler of your mars is Venus and Venus is at 22 degrees in taurus and conjuncts chiron in Taurus at 25 degrees and this falls in your 11th house, I see that your moon squares exact regulus and chiron conjuncts by one orb algol. 16, 17, 18, 19, 22, and 25 Degrees of Taurus are all degrees of violence. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 07, 2014 02:30 AM
I am looking at my husband's transits and his outbursts got bad really during transit Pluto opposite moon as his moon squares his sun and sesquisquares his mars/uranus/dc stellium....Pluto is now 6 orbs separating opposite his moon and since it started separating around 4 orbs things have been peaceful. He still deals with irritability which was there from the beginning (mars conjunct uranus) but this darker side I saw it's becoming very clear it was the Pluto transit opposing his moon as his moon aspects his sun by one orb, sequisquares his mars exact and his Uranus by one orb. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 656 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 07, 2014 04:04 AM
Saturn,Uranus and Neptune sit on top of your Mars by conjunction.Mars-Saturn controls emotional/impulsive responses and goes for the "Choose your battles wisely" and "Rather win the war and lose the battle" approach. So a lot of your impulsive actions will be contained. Mars-Uranus conjunction suggests an erratic response or action taken without much consideration. This aspect tends to "overshadow" the Saturn aspect of "control" and "reasonable responses". But the alpha dog or chief "Honcho" has got to be the Mars-Neptune conjunction. Neptune tends to inhibit many of Mars' impulsive actions. So one tends to "imagine" doing something before doing it in reality or one may not have a quick response to a sudden threat but, in retrospect, start to kick themselves on how they "should" have responded. Do you find it better to anticipate how you are going to respond to a situation than doing it spontaneously? Do you find it difficult to act without being forewarned? Neptune also has a tendency of creating fears of being "undone" or being "weak". So this could explain your fear of being overpowered? Maybe this "overpowering" is not the reason itself, but the fear borne from it could be that you are "overpowered" whilst in the presence of others? Perhaps those that you would want future respect from? This is the "undoing" that Neptune is about. The public "humiliation" and private shame. Have you tried Self-defense,Martial arts,Wrestling or Judo classes? IP: Logged |
bonneysharon Knowflake Posts: 39 From: new york Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 07, 2014 08:09 AM
i have mars square uranus and am also afraid of my anger. I am pretty easy going until i get mad and then all hell breaks loose. I like it though since i am so passive, when i do eventually get mad, it forces me to get off my butt and make changes.IP: Logged |
AquaWithaHeart Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 08:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Saturn,Uranus and Neptune sit on top of your Mars by conjunction.Mars-Saturn controls emotional/impulsive responses and goes for the "Choose your battles wisely" and "Rather win the war and lose the battle" approach. So a lot of your impulsive actions will be contained. Mars-Uranus conjunction suggests an erratic response or action taken without much consideration. This aspect tends to "overshadow" the Saturn aspect of "control" and "reasonable responses". But the alpha dog or chief "Honcho" has got to be the Mars-Neptune conjunction. Neptune tends to inhibit many of Mars' impulsive actions. So one tends to "imagine" doing something before doing it in reality or one may not have a quick response to a sudden threat but, in retrospect, start to kick themselves on how they "should" have responded. Do you find it better to anticipate how you are going to respond to a situation than doing it spontaneously? Do you find it difficult to act without being forewarned? Neptune also has a tendency of creating fears of being "undone" or being "weak". So this could explain your fear of being overpowered? Maybe this "overpowering" is not the reason itself, but the fear borne from it could be that you are "overpowered" whilst in the presence of others? Perhaps those that you would want future respect from? This is the "undoing" that Neptune is about. The public "humiliation" and private shame. Have you tried Self-defense,Martial arts,Wrestling or Judo classes?
THIS,This,This all of this to a T!! Are you a mind reader or something?That Mars-Neptune is where most of my problems come from.for the longest I thought it was my moon sign you know with Taurus being slow and all but no no.Just the other day someone called me some mean names and kinda stood like all blank but the sec I walked away I was upset that I didn't say anything back and often times I have to in the "mood" or let it build to fight back or I just won't or let it slide.any no I never tired self-defense Do you anyways I get past this Neptune mars thing ? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 55776 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 07, 2014 08:50 AM
Your Mars conj Uranus which is an aspect of rashness, sudden happenings and that could lead to accident proneness etc. So, you are side to move with caution as much as you can, my Friend.------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 656 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 07, 2014 09:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by AquaWithaHeart: THIS,This,This all of this to a T!! Are you a mind reader or something?That Mars-Neptune is where most of my problems come from.for the longest I thought it was my moon sign you know with Taurus being slow and all but no no.Just the other day someone called me some mean names and kinda stood like all blank but the sec I walked away I was upset that I didn't say anything back and often times I have to in the "mood" or let it build to fight back or I just won't or let it slide.any no I never tired self-defense Do you anyways I get past this Neptune mars thing ?
With Neptune the answers are more spiritual than "attack, attack, attack". The reason I recommended Martial arts, Judo and self defense is because they teach one how to "diffuse" a threatening situation and can build immense self-confidence. Confidence raises the vibration to another level. A person who is confident is rarely confronted with issues of being threatened physically or fears "losing it". Martial arts, and other forms of self-defense, are about the self(not the other) and teach the self about self-mastery and self-control. There is something in your vibration that is sending out "vulnerable" signals. Through these defense tactics, you can raise the vibration to "self confidence". Neptune wants you to go to the spiritual place and raise it. Neptune is not about earning "respect" and looking macho externally. Neptune is about working from the inside out. When threatening situations do arise around you, and it will NOT happen when your vibration is raised,your approach to the situation will be a lot more calmer and controlled-as you will know your own strength. Haven't you seen in movies, when the kick ass good guy stands up to the "baddies"? He always projects this energy of "I got this"- no matter his size vs the opponent. Although that is more scripted,take that as what I mean by knowing your own strength. This is what I mean by being self-controlled. Martial arts can greatly do this, boxing too. Do something that will make you feel empowered. IP: Logged |
AquaWithaHeart Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 07, 2014 09:44 AM
hmm boxing just may help,Thank you; your very knowledgeable Aries and I mean itIP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3367 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 07, 2014 09:56 AM
That was great input on mars-neptune...___________________________________________ I want to point out that pluto will be entering your second house and in 2018 pluto will be in capricorn at 20 degrees and you have a huge stellium there including your mars conjunct uranus so even if you have mars conjunct neptune when that pluto hits the mars conjunct uranus it could be when you act out on that anger that saturn and neptune have helped keep from acting out..this transit will likely result in losing a lot of money if you are attached to your possessions and money as transits to pluto entering the second usually coincide with this. I find that there is predisposition and the transits trigger behaviors that otherwise were kept under control; specially so with pluto transits. However you have pluto in the 12th natally which is great news bc that means you are probably in touch with yourself and darker side so you have naturally already been digging your subconscious and dealing with issues and addressing them so when pluto enters your second and conjuncts all the planets in your stellium you will probably deal with it better than others and not have issues with anger that gets out of control; I would just be specially mindful after pluto starts separating from neptune and approaching and conjuncting your mars-uranus natal conjunction.
This is a great article: http://wholeastrology.blogspot.com/2013/01/tips-for-surviving-pluto-transits.html My heart goes out to anyone with personal planets and even transpersonal planets in the cardinal signs (Libra, Capricorn, Aries, and Cancer) and especially those who were born during the first week of their sign, (the 22nd -29th of a month). The bad news is you can't avoid squares, oppositions or conjunctions with transiting Pluto and transiting Uranus at this time. Uranus moves into Taurus in 2018, finally giving relief to people with planets in cardinal signs, but Pluto doesn't move into Aquarius until 2024. The good news is that both Uranus and Pluto bring much needed transformation to the planet and to individuals with these configurations.
The most challenging planetary aspects/transits are when Pluto squares, opposes or conjuncts the natal Sun, Moon, or Rising sign, in this case they would be placed in either Capricorn, Cancer, Aries or Libra. The Pluto transit last three years and when the orb is exact, a person can feel as if they have been plunged into hell, or that hell has broken loose in their lives. How Pluto's energy plays out has to do with the house it's transiting in and any aspects it has with both natal and other transiting planets. The sky is active and planets are constantly on the move. And even when you know the house or houses involved with the transit, it's still impossible to predict what sort of drama will play out because Pluto is ruled by Scorpio which deals with the hidden and those things kept far down in our subconscious. This planet is primal and impulsive. A few years ago, astronomers and astrologers demoted Pluto from planet to asteroid. It's as if they didn't want to deal with the chaos and mess Pluto brings to the planet (earth) and I guess they thought they could just sweep Pluto under the carpet; pretend that it wasn't there. However, if you're going through a Pluto transit, you know that it's impossible to sweep Pluto, much less anything under a rug and pretend it isn't there. Cleanliness is not one of Pluto's greatest assets. Think of the analogy of a clogged sewer system and all the muck that comes up, (smells bad too) in order to fix the clog. Well, there's a lot of muck we buried in our subconscious, mostly during our childhood when we didn't have the wherewithal to handle those emotions at that time. I think for women, we had to hide certain emotions, such as rage, especially with my generation and older generations that weren't seen as ladylike. We were expected to play the role of nice girl, and take care of other people's needs, while stuffing our own. Ever wonder why so many women have weight problems? We were told to look nice and play this role, be seen, but not heard, yeah, even with my generation (I was born in the 1960s). So much for women's liberation. Well, now Pluto is helping us to get in touch with our true feminine power which at this point resembles an outraged Kali. See, our parents should have just let us throw that tantrum at age two instead of letting the rage build and build into volcanic activity. With Pluto lurking around in the subconscious this rage now comes up for healing and clearing. Denying it's there won't help and in fact, we can no longer deny that it's there. Men going through a Pluto transit also have to deal with stuffing their emotions, mainly grief and sometimes inner rage that is tearing them apart. Telling boys that they can't cry when they're hurt either emotionally or physically, is asking for trouble down the road. If a man doesn't learn how to express all of his emotions, then he represses too many of them. This could lead to escapism, violent behavior (to hide his vulnerability), or cold detachment (such as the bachelor who uses women, but feels nothing for them). Remember, Pluto and Scorpio has a tendency or a weakness of appearing icy cold. And ice kings didn't start out as cold and unfeeling reptilians. So here comes Pluto to unblock, unlock, release, transform and transmute patterns, beliefs, emotions, and all that crap we cling to. We need to do this housecleaning anyway, but Pluto transits are painful and we do experience great loss and I liken a Pluto transit to a long and drawn out initiation. Think of the bat totems and initiations of Meso-America/Latin America where the initiates are taken into a dark cave filled with bats. Or think about the totem animals of Panther/Jaguar or Vulture, which is about purging everything that never worked and no longer worked. Pluto knocks out the guard rails or any defenses we have secured into place. We are left standing naked feeling vulnerable and exposed. We find ourselves stripped of everything we thought we needed to survive. Think of all those families who lost their homes and lived in cars, if they had a car to live in. Think of all the people who recently divorced. Think of people who have lost their health and their lives under Pluto transits. And I'm not saying this to frighten anyone. Courage is needed now. Practicing gentleness with our selves and self-love are crucial ingredients to reaching the other side of a Pluto transit. Eating healthy, going with the flow and letting go of anything that comes up now that needs release. Finding a life coach or therapist to work with (who understands astrology) can relieve the tension and fear that surface. Take flower essences such as the Bach Flower Remedies (Rescue Remedy) comes to mind. Take a yoga, meditation or Tai Chi class. Change your diet and eliminate all unhealthy foods, give up alcohol, sugar and caffeine which will just agitate you now. If you have an addiction, de-tox and get professional help. Get a medical check up especially with the parts of the body ruled by Scorpio (sexual organs, colon). Don't go through these transits alone. It's crucial that you find support, especially when you experience losses. While I support positive thinking and feeling joy, when a person is experiencing a challenging Pluto transit (square, opposition, conjunction), it's time to clean house (the subconscious). Those issues you buried deep inside come up now for you to transmute and release. But don't make the mistake of holding on to these old hurts and go over them like a groove in a record. When the issues come up, deal with them, and be done with them. Don't re-dramatize your situation (Scorpio loves drama), but don't deny your issues or your shadows now. The key word is transmute energy. And by transmuting energy, you actually find your authentic self. You reclaim your power and like Persephone you rise back up the earth as a changed magical being. And if you're Capricorn, it will be another 240 years before Pluto transits in Capricorn again. IP: Logged |